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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

528.0. "DECmobile drivers" by FHQ::MAIELLANO (Murphy was an optimist!) Thu May 05 1988 20:38

    This morning while on my way to work on 128 a "DECmobile" passed
    me doing considerably more than the speed limit and driving quite
    erratically.  Since the car had the DIGITAL logo on it I think the 
    actions of this driver would reflect negatively on the company.  
    What do you think?
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528.1Caught before?CADSE::MCCARTHYYour both crazy, I put in the yeastFri May 06 1988 09:372
    maybe its the same one I saw pulled over by a cop a few months back.
    This too does not look good.
528.2DECmobile ECO#101USRCV1::NADROWSKICFri May 06 1988 13:328
    
    Yep and soon all DECmobile's will be issued a bumper sticker....
    
    "  HOW'S MY DRIVING ??? CALL 1-800-DIGITAL-CARES   "
    "  CAR NUMBER 123456			       "
                                                    
    : )
    -carl-
528.3Did you get the license plate number?DR::BLINNOpus in '88 (Penguin Lust!)Fri May 06 1988 20:5710
        Whether it really reflects poorly on Digital is hard to say; after
        all, most people on 128 drive well over the speed limit and weave
        from lane to lane.. 
        
        If you really want to do something about it, I'd suggest you get
        the license plate number and call Corporate Security, who will
        certainly be able to trace it through the Mass. State Police if
        they choose to do so. 
        
        Tom
528.4Let the police do the monitoring...SPGOGO::LEBLANCRuth E. LeBlancFri May 13 1988 19:4917
    Aw, come on!  We're not in Orwell's "1984", and Digital is not "Big
    Brother".  What we do in our own time is our own business, as long
    as our work is not effected.
    
    Anyway, the goodness or badness of driving with a heavy foot is
    a matter of perception.  What one person may perceive as too fast
    and therefore "bad", another may interpret entirely differently.
    It is not Digital's responsibility, nor the responsibility of its
    employees, to monitor employees' off-work behaviors, especially
    when those behaviors are not necessarily "bad". 
    
    Maybe it'd be better if our bumper stickers had a disclaimer: "The
    driving of this individual does not necessarily reflect the reviews
    or opinions of Digital Equipment Corporation"??!!  :-}
    
    Bearly,
    
528.5"Don't like my driving? Call 1-800-DIGITAL"DR::BLINNOpus in '88 (Penguin Lust!)Fri May 13 1988 21:0712
        Ruth, you seem to be assuming that the person was driving on his
        or her own business.  That is not necessarily the case.  Yes,
        "fast" and "bad" are not necessarily the same thing, but weaving
        from lane to lane and cutting off other drivers is not just
        "fast", it's "bad". 
        
        What you do on your own time when you cannot be readily identified
        as a DEC employee is your own business, as long as your work is
        not effected.  If you are readily identified as a DEC employee,
        you may find that your work is effected.
        
        Tom
528.6BINKLY::WINSTONJeff Winston (Hudson, MA)Mon May 16 1988 17:3614
>        What you do on your own time when you cannot be readily identified
>        as a DEC employee is your own business, as long as your work is
>        not effected.  If you are readily identified as a DEC employee,
>        you may find that your work is effected.
        

Just as a side comment, when I was at IBM around 1980 - regular new
employees went through a rather lengthly orientation program - good in
a way - as it gave themn a thorough introduction to the business and
organization, - but one morning, they were required to attend a
lecture on "How an IBM employee conducts him/herself when outside of
IBM" 

fwiw
528.7IBM Prohibition VOLGA::D_MONTGOMERYMy soul been psychedelicizedMon May 16 1988 20:247
    Well, considering that at one time (while still under the leadership
    of Tom Watson, SR.), employees of IBM were not allowed to drink
    alcohol _even on their own time and their own property_,  it's no
    surprise that the company still teaches "outside behavior" to new
    employees.
    
    -Don-
528.8SPGOGO::LEBLANCRuth E. LeBlancTue May 17 1988 16:3910
    Re: 528.5:   Tom, you're right.  I was making the assumption that
    the person was driving on her/his own business -- I was visualizing
    your average DEC employee driving around with a Digital bumper sticker
    on his/her car.  Any driver of a "fleet" car (i.e., clearly-marked
    Digital-owned vehicle) obviously has a responsibility to Digital
    to drive cautiously.  The "appearances" don't bother me as much
    as the liability aspects would.
    
    Bearly,
    
528.9Report Incident to DEC Fleet ManagerSAFETY::SEGALLen Segal, MLO6-1/U30, 223-7687Tue May 17 1988 19:3322
     No, DEC  Security can NOT (easily) get the local PD or Mass State PD
     to check registration  #'s,  they won't do it!!  Besides, if it is a
     DECmobile, guess who it is registered to ???
     
     I will tell all readers  what  I was told when I drove a company car
     in another company..."YOU ARE THE COMPANY  to  the  public, whatever
     you do while driving a vehicle with  the  company  emblem on it DOES
     reflect on the company!" This is REGARDLESS of  whether  it  is  "on
     your own time" or "on the clock"!!
     
     I once witnessed an a-hole DEC driver in a DECmobile (FS van) on Rt.
     128 driving illegally in the breakdown lane  and  weaving in and out
     of  lanes  (across  all  3  plus  breakdown,  continually)   without
     signalling (trucks are NOT allowed in breakdown lane  even when cars
     are-during rush-hours).  I took down the registration #  and  called
     DEC  Fleet's  manager  (try  Vehicle Services, On-Site Company Cars,
     Manager, 223-6555  - from DTN Directory) and explained situation.  I
     even  got  a  return  call from  "a-hole  DEC  driver's"  supervisor
     advising me that the a-hole was talked to.  This is the best option,
     but not the only (legal) option available.   The  DEC  Fleet Manager
     thanked me for reporting the incident.
     
528.10DECmobiles and drivers...WR2FOR::BOUCHARD_KEKen Bouchard WRO3-2 DTN 521-3018Wed May 25 1988 00:237
.9>     DECmobile, guess who it is registered to ???

    
    I'll tell you...every DECmobile that I've had(and I've had a few)
    has had some identification of me on the registration.My current
    registration lists not my name but my address...so you see,the police
    or whoever *can* find out who drives a particular car.
528.11MSDOA2::LJONESThu Jun 30 1988 14:572
    	With the advent of 2 hour response for 62XX systems, we have
    had emergency lights and sirens installed on our Decwagons.
528.12BUNYIP::QUODLINGIt's my foot! I'll Shoot it!Sun Jul 03 1988 01:184
        Or perhaps you need to learn how to parachute from a DECChopper.
        
        q :-)
        
528.13fast responseEAGLE1::EGGERSTom, 293-5358, Soaring ever higherSun Jul 03 1988 04:482
    Rappelling out is probably sufficient.
    
528.14DEC S.W.A.T. teamsSARAH::BUEHLERGads, it's morning again.Wed Jul 06 1988 00:508
    That's funny on the surface, but what do you think a customer's
    reaction would be if, after making a service call on an important piece
    of hardware, the customer spotted a helicopter swoop down (safely) and
    have FS engineers rappel down with their diagnostic kits and rush over
    to the machine.  Meanwhile, the helicopter peels off and flys off into
    the distance.
    
John
528.15SWS == SWat ServicesHACKIN::MACKINJim Mackin, VAX PROLOGWed Jul 06 1988 02:538
    -.1 has *exactly* the same idea I came up with over the past couple
    of weeks.  Think of the marketing potential!!!!  Afterall, what
    do you think SWS stands for anyway?  When I was in the field it
    often seemed exactly like a S.W.A.T team -- rushing into a situation
    blind, miraculously fixing it, and running off to fix another
    "critical" problem in some other area you knew nothing about.
    
    Jim, a former SWat Services person
528.16A little more than just re-seating boards...AXEL::FOLEYRebel without a ClueWed Jul 06 1988 03:308
       
       
       	When they do a low-level drop off of a 8794 VAXcluster, 4 F.S.
       engineers and tools, and one district manager (for giggles) from
       the back of a C-130, THEN I'll be impressed. I wonder if DEC has
       offical camo colors?
       
       						mike
528.17Drop-shipping takes on a whole new meaning..DR::BLINNOpus for VEEP in '88Wed Jul 06 1988 13:526
        Well, we HAVE been known to do "low-level drop off" of some of our
        systems, but it's usually from the back of a semi trailer, and
        it's usually not on purpose.  (Experiences with a DECSYSTEM-20 at
        DECUS a few years ago comes to mind...) 
        
        Tom
528.18New Job Requirments?SRFSUP::GOLDSMITHOnly 65.9% of my former self.Wed Jul 06 1988 15:187
    
    I can just imagine the requirements for Field Service Engineer.
    
    "...must also have experience with helicopter based rescue
    techniques..."
    
    							--- Neal
528.19What's the VAXstation-II/GPX setting for Core Box Blue?DENTON::AMARTINAlan H. MartinThu Jul 07 1988 12:166
Re .16:

>I wonder if DEC has offical camo colors?

If I find my copy of DEC STD 92, I'll check.
				/AHM
528.20Catch 22DPDMAI::SWENSONWed Jul 13 1988 20:544
    Don't worry about the Decmodile as of August 15 it will be a thing
    of the past.  Except for the Grandfathers.  Dec can't find a decent
    car policy they they now force us to buy our own and pay minimal.
    Or you can use a unmarked DEC car and pay a bundle. Catch 22.