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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

473.0. "note files hidden?" by WINERY::BOUCHARKE () Fri Feb 26 1988 17:31

    wri
    I am pretty new to NOTES.I,like many,run off a copy of easynotes.lis
    to see what conferences are going on.(very helpful in my job) No
    problem finding notes pertaining to work subjects...but,when it
    comes to other notefiles...(you know,the kind you read occasionally
    while having a cup of coffee) There seems to be a conspiracy of
    silence when it comes to certain subjects.I'm finding references
    to notefiles right and left and these files don't appear on any
    list that I have. Maybe these files are coded somewhere?
    As an employee working all the way out in Cal.,I feel even more
    isolated than usual.
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473.1PHENIX::CONNELLDown on Toidy-toid & Toid AvenueFri Feb 26 1988 17:569
>   I'm finding references
>   to notefiles right and left and these files don't appear on any
>   list that I have. 

	Could you cite some examples, please?  I find nearly five full pages
of notesfiles titles (relating to "Valuing Differences", "Employee Interests",
and "Miscellaneous") in EASYNOTES.LIS.

					Regards, 		--Mike
473.2one example...WINERY::BOUCHARKEFri Feb 26 1988 18:321
    How about the conference called:firearms?
473.3confidentiality and proprietaryAUNTB::SOEHLKeeping the lid onFri Feb 26 1988 18:594
    As the disclaimer at the beginning of EASYNOTES.LIS mentions, there
    are some conferences that are not open to the general DIGITAL public
    because they relate to unannounced products/projects.  Many of these
    are not even announced.  
473.4Please let me know where you are getting your copy of the list!LEDER1::THOMPSONQuestion realityFri Feb 26 1988 19:3012
    Where are you getting your copy of EASYNOTES.LIS? The FIREARMS
    conference (ALIEN::FIREARMS) has been listed in EASYNOTES.LIS
    for some time. The latest copy of EASYNOTES.LIS is always at
    ANCHOR::NET$LIBRARY:EASYNOTES.LIS. There are other copies around
    the net but the one on ANCHOR is the master copy.
    
    You can also look in the TLE::EASYNET_CONFERENCES conference
    where conferences are announced. Hit KP7 or SELECT to add it
    to your notebook.
    
    			Alfred Thompson
    			EASYNOTES.LIS Editor
473.5... Birth, Death, InfinitySDSVAX::SWEENEYPatrick Sweeney DTN 352.2157Fri Feb 26 1988 20:4023
    Reasons a NOTES conference no longer exists:
    
    (a) APATHY: many subjects can't sustain enough interest to justify
    the disk space (I didn't participate in them)  (By far the biggest
    reason)
    
    (b) CONTROVERSY: many subjects attract too much interest and visibility
    beyond the participants (ie sexuality, religion)  (Is note 111 here
    the right reference?)
    
    (c) SPLIT: one conference has broken into two or more
    
    (d) COMBINED: two or more conferences have merged
    
    (e) MOOT: a conference discusses an event that's past (ex. DECWORLD_87)
    
    Certain conferences discussing new products are referenced _only_ in
    conferences discussing the current product and thereby attract the
    involved as opposed to the merely curious. 
    
    A reference that's from 1984 or thereabouts is very likely to point
    to a non-existent conference as well since there's substantial movement
    of conferences in the EASYNET.
473.6adding on to .5WELKIN::ADOERFERSat Feb 27 1988 13:1219
    a few more reasons you may not find a conference
    
    (f) MOVED: often references to a conference from a while back will
               point to a wrong node.  Alfred said how to get the current
    	       location.  Notes conference locations are also in VTX
    	       using the keywords NOTES_INDEX and/or EASYNOTES.
    (g) ADDRESS ERROR:  You know where the current location of the conference
	        is, but the system you are on has the wrong location
    	        for that node name.  This is getting rarer, but still
    	        possible.
    (h) TEMPORARY RESOURCE PROBLEM ON THE HOST NODE.  It's possible
               the disk the conference is on didn't get mounted, or
    	       was removed while the drive was needed for something
               else.  It's possible number of people trying for the
    	       file exceeds the limits of users the system gave to 	
    	       notes usage.
    _bill
    
473.7They are not required to be accessible all the timeALIEN::MELVINTen zero, eleven zero zero by zero 2Sat Feb 27 1988 21:0515
>    How about the conference called:firearms?

Something to realize at the start is that any notesfile anywhere is not
always guaranteed to be accessible 100% of the time.  Sometimes the systems
involved have to be used for real work and will occassionally be taken off
the network (depending on what has to get done).  Other times, the network
traffic puts a sufficient load on the target system that access has to be
restricted to certain hours, when normal workloads will not be impacted.

FIREARMS is on a system that has been taken standalone a number of times in
recent weeks.  It is quite possible that you could not get to it for that
reason.  As far as that one is concerned, you'll probably have to look for
the conspiracy of silence elsewhere :-).

-Joe