| T.R | Title | User | Personal
Name | Date | Lines |
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| 333.1 | Recently hired | ATLAST::FAILE | | Tue Jun 23 1987 18:00 | 18 |
| John,
I'm very new to Digital (3.5 months) but when I was interviewing
I was told that the job I had applied for would have to remain posted
for a specified time (2 weeks I think) before I could be offered
the position, this was to give Digital employees time to apply.
I have also heard that you only have to stay in a position for a
year before moving... I'm not sure if this means moving as in
relocating or moving into another group within the same location.
I assumed that it was company policy to post job openings. I've
heard others say that you only have to remain in a job for a year
before moving on. Never have seen an official policy statment on
either subject...
This may not be much help but I thought I'd pass along what I was
told and have heard since being hired only a few months ago...
Cody
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| 333.2 | Think it's policy to post... | YUPPIE::COLE | I survived B$ST, I think..... | Tue Jun 23 1987 19:06 | 3 |
| Without having gone to the VTX on-line Personnel Manuals, I would be
say the 2 week (or 10 work-day???) posting rule is policy. And it probably
has as much to do with EEO requirements as anything.
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| 333.3 | Time in job before transfer | ANGORA::MORRISON | Bob M. LMO2/P41 296-5357 | Tue Jun 23 1987 19:52 | 6 |
| The policy on time in a job before a transfer is two years for
wage class 4 and one year for wage class 1 & 2. I don't know off-
hand about wage class 3.
From what I have heard, the policy on transfers within a group is
not concrete. If anyone can shed some light on this, I'd like to
know too.
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| 333.4 | 2 years for WC 4... | JAWS::DAVIS | Gil Davis | Tue Jun 23 1987 19:54 | 13 |
| Wage class 4's are now supposed to stay in their current position
for two years before they post for a new position. There are
exceptions however. If your position changes *significantly* from
when you hired in, go talk to your manager and explain that the
current charter of the organization of job doesn't fit your personal
goals (the reasons why you took the job in the first place).
If your reasons are valid, and the manager agrees, they can then
lobby with upper management to let you apply for a new position.
This type of change sometimes comes about after a reorganization
or change of management (manager) while you are in a position.
Gil (ok managers, am I right?)
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| 333.5 | Guidelin | TOOK::HEFFERNAN | Jonny Most For President | Tue Jun 23 1987 21:01 | 6 |
| RE: .-1
My understanding was that the two year rule was a guideline and it was up
to the two managers involved...
John
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| 333.6 | | GOOGLY::KERRELL | Inspired to creative action | Wed Jun 24 1987 11:20 | 11 |
| re .5:
>My understanding was that the two year rule was a guideline and it was up
>to the two managers involved...
This sounds more sensible, no point holding on to someone who wants to be
elsewhere, at the same time don't encourage job hoppers...
This also fits what happens in Europe.
Dave.
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| 333.7 | | TORA::KLEINBERGER | MAXCIMize your efforts | Wed Jun 24 1987 11:28 | 19 |
| The two year committment is only a guideline. If you and your manager
agree for you to leave, you do not have to stay the full two years.
I can say this from experience, as I accepted a job, and after only
two months knew the job had been misrepresented, and was not what
it was to be. After talking to my manager, and fully documenting
things that had happened, she agreed to let me find another job
within DEC. So I left the job after only six months in it.
As for some jobs not being posted... maybe the job was slated for
a college hire????
Also, there are some jobs that obviously were never slated for "old
blood" but "new blood", as is evidenced by VP and senior VP positions
being hired right from the outside. There is even a special headhunter
group that is used for these occasions (sorry I forget the name
but it is local to the Boston area)
GLK
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| 333.8 | There are others.... | YUPPIE::COLE | I survived B$ST, I think..... | Wed Jun 24 1987 12:31 | 3 |
| I believe another "exception" to the two year guideline is seeking a
job that will promote you, ie., Principle Specialist to Consultant. Or
changing from technical to management is also considered "promoting".
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| 333.9 | MAYBE THIS WILL HELP | YAZOO::R_OELFKE | STRIDE | Wed Jun 24 1987 12:57 | 13 |
| EVERYTHING IS UP TO 'MANAGEMENT DISCRETION'. ALSO, EACH PLANT /
PERSONNEL ORGANIZATION HAS THERE RULES FOR THEMSELVES TO FOLLOW.
CORPORATE ONLY SETS GUIDELINES FOR EACH GROUP TO FOLLOW.
THE TWO YEAR FOR EXEMPT (WC 3 AND 4) AND THE ONE YEAR FOR NON-EXEMPT
(WC 1 AND 2) ARE GUIDELINES. MOVEMENT (UP OR DOWN) WITHIN A GROUP
BY IT'S CURRENT INDIVIDUALS IS ONCE AGAIN UP TO THE SPECIFIC PERSONNEL
GROUP. MOST GROUPS (THAT I KNOW OF), CREATE A REQ. FOR THE PERSON
TO INTERVIEW FOR UNLESS THE JOB DOESN'T CHANGE WHICH WOULD BE AN UPGRADE
(SOFTWARE SPECIALIST TO SR SOFTWARE SPECIALIST).
BOB O.
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