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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

205.0. "Dead Flies!!!" by EXODUS::SEGER (this space intentionally left blank) Wed Oct 22 1986 15:29

I've at LKG for awhile now and have noticed LOTS of dead flies around.  
At first I ignored it.  One day I found one 1/2 dead to the point where
I could actually scoop him/her up and carry it around like a pet!  In 
the last couple of days I have found several on my desk.

Is there something in the air?  Is it normal to have flies "dropping like
flies"?

How about other facilities?

-mark
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205.1more dead fliesULTRA::KARGERPaul A. KargerWed Oct 22 1986 15:591
    There are lots of flies like that in LTN-2 right now.
205.2Winter is in the air!NUHAVN::MCKINLEYWed Oct 22 1986 16:074
>Is there something in the air?  Is it normal to have flies "dropping like
>flies"?

205.3ULTRA::PRIBORSKYTony PriborskyWed Oct 22 1986 16:261
    "They" sprayed.
205.4So good you should be looking after 800 years, yes?DRAGON::MCVAYPete McVay, VRO (Telecomm)Wed Oct 22 1986 16:274
    Unlike many other insects, houseflies do not hibernate in the winter.
    They only live for approximately one season.  So this time of year,
    they look for warm places, and literally die of old age.  The few
    wobbly ones left are incredibly old, by fly standards.
205.5RDGENG::LESLIEAndy `{o}^{o}' Leslie, Euro.CSSE, OSIWed Oct 22 1986 16:272
    Ensure facilities are aware of your problems and that cleaners should
    be dealing with your piles of flies.
205.6I think I'll stay home FridayCOVERT::COVERTJohn CovertWed Oct 22 1986 17:4411
How timely:  The following memo, from Frank Clark in LKG Facilities, was just
put into my hand by the facilities runner:

SUBJECT: SPRAYING

Due to a problem with flies in the building, we will be fogging the building
Thursday night Oct. 23rd.

Please leave the building by 10:00 p.m. before extermination begins.

Thank you for your cooperation.
205.7must be some garbage aroundBANZAI::FISHERFri Oct 24 1986 14:038
A flies life spans from a couple of hours to a few weeks at the most.  They
never survive an entire season.

There must have been something in the facility that allowed them to multiply,
some rancid food source, or an unemptied trash can, or perhaps they used a
computer (sorry).

ed
205.8"hole in the screen"NAC::DENSMOREget to the verbsTue Oct 28 1986 11:1510
    I was talking to one of the maintenance guys here at LKG who used
    to work at VRO when I was there for awhile.  They have the same
    problem there.  He said it has something to do with the way the
    flashing is put on in the building.  It allows the flies to get
    in I suppose and when the weather gets cold, they want in.
    
    One item of interest...I never noticed flies around the cafeteria.
    Hmmmm.
    
    						Mike
205.9'tis the seasonNIEMAN::STEWARTTue Oct 28 1986 13:385
    I think this is a seasonal problem, not a building maintainence
    problem.  I've noticed every fall when the weather starts getting
    cold more flies appear inside.  I've killed a half dozen in my
    house in the past week after a whole summer with nary a fly.
    	Dee
205.10the suituation at ZKOSTAR::ABBASINobel price winner, expected 2035Sat Nov 14 1992 18:4318
    ref .0
    
>I've at LKG for awhile now and have noticed LOTS of dead flies around.  
>At first I ignored it.  One day I found one 1/2 dead to the point where
>I could actually scoop him/her up and carry it around like a pet!  In 
>the last couple of days I have found several on my desk.
>
>Is there something in the air?  Is it normal to have flies "dropping like
>flies"?

>How about other facilities?
    
    I've been at ZKO for more than a year, and I've seen no more than 2 so far,
    both were very dizzy when I saw them, I think they get in through the
    ventilation ducts, I dont think there is a 100% sure ways to stop them 
    comming into the buildings though.
    
    /nasser
205.11A note that's 6 years old, and NO ONE's hypothesized yet that...RDVAX::KALIKOWthe Nattering Nabob of NoterismSat Nov 14 1992 19:3414
    ... all those "Dead Flies" might be simply the reincarnations of the
    many dead bugs that all you bright folks in LKG, LTN, and ZKO find and
    swat?
    
    Am I the only one old enuf to remember a debugger called DDT (Dynamic
    Debugging Technique, if memory serves)??
    
    Or all that wonderful assembly language humor, like the fatal HCF
    instruction ("Halt, Catch Fire")???
    
    /Dan
    
    PS -- Thanks, /Nasser, for uncovering this beauty... :-)
    
205.12DSSDEV::TPMARY::TAMIRDECforms RoadieMon Nov 16 1992 19:533
DDT?  Sure, but do you remember the disclaimer in the PDP-10 doc set about DDT??

Mary, who still JFCLs from time to time.....
205.13LEZAH::QUIRIYLove is a verb.Wed Nov 18 1992 21:5622
    
    I was the last writer to touch the DDT manual and I made sure the
    disclaimer stayed in. :-)
    
    Is this the one you remembered?
    
                              HISTORICAL NOTE
    
    DDT  was developed at MIT  for  the PDP-1  computer  in 1961.  At that
    time, DDT  stood for "DEC Debugging Tape."  Since then, the idea of an
    on-line  debugging  program  has  propagated  throughout the  computer
    industry.   DDT  programs are  now  available for  all  DEC computers.
    Since  media  other  than  tape  are now  frequently  used,  the  more
    descriptive  name  "Dynamic  Debugging  Technique"  has  been adopted,
    retaining the DDT acronym.  Confusion between DDT-10 and  another well
    known  pesticide, dichloro-diphenyl-trichloroethane  (C(14)H(9)CL(5)),
    should be minimal since they attack different, and apparently mutually
    exclusive, classes of bugs.
    
    Waxing nostalgic even though I came in at the end,
    
    Cq
205.14Yep, that's the one! :-)RDVAX::KALIKOWthe Nattering Nabob of NoterismThu Nov 19 1992 00:138
    ... the organic-chem reference was so cute...
    
    Speak, memory!!
    
    Thanks...
    
    Better to wax nostalgic than wroth...
    
205.15TUNER::ROBERTSThu Nov 19 1992 14:523
    Seems to me DDT was dynamic debugging tape??
    
    John
205.16Oh, ya, that Type 555 DECtape....DSSDEV::DSSDEV::TAMIRDECforms RoadieFri Nov 27 1992 21:556
    I don't remember DEC Debugging Tape....I remember DECtape Debugging
    Technique during the Project MAC days at MIT.
    
    I'm glad it lives on....
    
    Mary