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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

162.0. "Types of rewards at DEC" by TLE::MOREAU (Ken Moreau) Fri Jul 25 1986 11:28

This topic has been touched on several times in this conference, but I have
never seen it directly questioned (or answered).  This topic would apply
equally well no matter what company we worked for, but I am interested in
what other people in DEC think about it.

The question is, of the types of rewards that are given to you by DEC in 
appreciation for your services, which are valuable to you, and which are the
ones you don't you care about?

The three major types of rewards that I am aware of are:

1) money, in the form of salary increases, 

2) goodies, in the form of trips to DECUS (and/or European DECUS, depending on
   which side of the pond you are on), woods meetings for release parties, the
   5/10/15/20/xx year momentos, mugs to celebrate releases, etc.,

3) public recognition by your management, communicated to your peers.

There are probably others, but I think this covers a lot of ground.

To postulate an exaggerated example, suppose you had just put in a massive 
amount of time/work/energy/whatever, and done a terrific job by everyones 
standards.  Would you prefer:

1) an early review with a 25% raise, but your manager went to DECUS to talk 
   about what you had done, and s/he never mentioned to anyone else what a 
   fine job you had done,

2) a standard time review with a lot of good words but no extra increase in 
   salary for your work, however you go to European DECUS to talk to people
   and you have a great time, but no one knows why you got to go because your
   manager never told people what a fine job you did,

3) a standard time review with a lot of good words but no extra increase in
   salary for your work, your manager went to DECUS, but at the next staff 
   meeting everyone was told what a fine job you did, and you find out later
   that your manager has been telling his manager (several levels up) what a
   terrific employee you are.


Speaking for myself, I like a mixture of 1 and 2.  Money is nice because it 
lets me enjoy myself in ways that DEC cannot help me with (nicer house, nicer
car, my daughters education, whatever).  But the goodies are important too.
I really enjoy traveling.  I value the 5 year momento a *LOT* more than I
would value the equivalent amount of money, or even 10 times the cost of it.
And as far as public recognition is concerned, I figure that if I am truly
doing a good job, my peers will notice without any help from my manager, so
3 is really not too important.

I realize that 2 and 3 are really tied together, in that goodies are viewed
as public recognition (ie, "Even though both of us could talk very well about
the mumble project, he went to DECUS because he worked really hard for it, and
our manager wanted to recognize that.  He deserves it.").  But I am trying to
separate that out for the sake of this discussion.


To tie this back together with the topic of this notes file, I think DEC does
a very good job of identifying how people would like to be rewarded, and then
encouraging the manager to tailor things as best they can to satisfy the
individual.  I have always been very happy about this.  

What about you?

-- Ken Moreau
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162.1my prioritiesDSSDEV::SAUTERJohn SauterFri Jul 25 1986 11:5411
    Really all three are related.  You know your manager is sincere
    in his praise if you get a good raise (meaning that others in the
    department get less) and if you get, e.g., to go to DECUS, meaning
    someone else in the department doesn't go.  Also, going to DECUS
    gets you lots of praise from your peers, since customers send people
    just like you to DECUS and they are always glad to boost the egos
    of Digital employees (I speak from personal experience).
    
    My priorities are, first, recognition; second, goodies; third, money.
    Best, of course, would be all three.
        John Sauter
162.2another oneTIGEMS::ARNOLDNever play leapfrog with a unicornFri Jul 25 1986 13:0718
    From my experience (both personal & my former peer group), the field
    (at least sws where I was) was very lax about rewards for a one-time
    super-human effort.  To get 2 or 3 of your goodies, that super-human
    effort would have to be expended at a continuous output rate.
    
    There was a single solitary time when a reward was given me for
    a time when several of us worked (literally) *all* weekend to get
    a benchmark completed, using DBMS which none of us knew anything
    about.  I had been scheduled to attend a 2-week training class at
    the University of DEC (Bedford) a few weeks later.  My manager said
    that he appreciated the benchmark effort, and changed the location
    of my course from Bedford to Los Angeles.
    
    Some may think "6 of one, half dozen of the other", but from my
    own perspective, at least it was recognition, and I knew the manager
    realized the effort & commitment to get the job done.
    
    Jon
162.4Alternatives should be rethought (.0)JAWS::AUSTINTom Austin @UPO - Channels MarketingFri Jul 25 1986 17:277
    #1 is defined in impossible terms. A manager cannot automatically
    grant a 25% increase. That or any special increase outside of the
    ordinary must be explained very carefully and justified up through
    channels where it will be pushed on, probed, questioned and discouraged
    unless there are very, very compelling reasons for granting it.
    Thus, to accomplish a MAJOR increase your manager would have to
    give you a lot of publicity up the chain...
162.5Door #1, door #2, or door #3?CSTVAX::MCLUREVaxnote your way to ubiquityFri Jul 25 1986 17:498
	How about a choice?  Why not lay out various optional rewards which
    the good performer could then choose from.  I am currently trying to
    save money to buy a house and get out of my renter-rut, so I would opt
    for money over trips, recognition, etc.  But, I think that maybe later
    in my career (after I already have my 50 acre estate - ar ar!), I may be
    more interested in traveling, and fame/recognition.

							-davo
162.6What's important?MMO01::PNELSONSearching for TopekaFri Jul 25 1986 23:5212
    Recognition
    
    Money
    
    Goodies
    
    The exception to that is if I get to choose my *OWN* goodies.  For
    example, one  trip to DECworld is worth 10, no 20, free resort weekends
    to me.  If we could consider the things that are important to ME as
    goodies, then that category becomes number 2 and money is number 3. 
    
    					(^:	Positive Pat	:^)
162.7VIRTUE::HALLYBFree the quarks!Sat Jul 26 1986 19:2415
    Another reward for superhuman results is stock options.
    That's one thing the company can do that causes its people
    to be concerned about the _company's_ health, and continue
    to work hard.
    
    That may not be forthcoming after running one benchmark,
    but if you put together 3 or 4 such superhuman efforts then
    your boss would be a damfool not to try to get you some.
    
    Which would you New Englanders prefer:  10% increase, or
    100 shares (@ $50/share anytime you want to buy), DECUS in
    Australia, DECville in France, color GPX for your office,
    or a (Bahamas) resort week in January?
    
      John
162.8$$$ Talks!MILRAT::SEGALLen SegalSun Jul 27 1986 20:2117
     I would opt for
     
     1. Money!
     
     2. Goodies (especially stock options)
     
     3. Recognition (actually, you get this with 1. or 2. above)
     
     To give  someone  a  larger  than planned for raise, or to recommend
     someone for stock  options  requires  a  write-up  of justification.
     These proposals are then  picked  apart  by higher management before
     being approved or rejected.   Thus,  you get the recognition anyway!
     [Many Mgrs will NOT put people in for unplanned increases (I realize
     that it is very difficult to do  under  the  current guidelines!) or
     stock  options,  because they are skittish about having  to  justify
     their positions in front of Group Managers, etc.]
     
162.9PAUPER::GETTYSBob Gettys N1BRMMon Jul 28 1986 00:0730
162.10POTARU::QUODLINGTechnocrats of the world... Unite!Mon Jul 28 1986 03:0618
        Well, the money never seems to increase by anything significant,
        so I wouldn't hold my breath for that. 
        
        Decus is work! Every Decus I go to leaves me absolutely drained.
        I tend to be the get it done person.
        
        I am in too small a group to have "excellence award" junkets.
        
        A GPX on my desk is a required tool, not an award for acheivement.
        (I just need to beat this point into my bosses head a bit more.)
        
        Recognition? Personally, I hate to be patronized and that is
        the form that most recognition ends up around here.
        
        Bah!  Humbug!  Sigh....
        
        q
        
162.11favorite goodieDSSDEV::SAUTERJohn SauterMon Jul 28 1986 14:036
    re: .7--DECUS in Australia!  Like .10 I find DECUS a lot of work,
    but the chance to see Australia would make it worth the effort.
    Even when DECUS is at home I enjoy it, in spite of the very intense
    effort required over a week.  (My feet were bleeding after a week
    in Los Angeles.  I'll never wear new shoes to DECUS again.)
        John Sauter
162.12No tax on time (yet), so...TSG::BRADYBob Brady, TSG, LMO4-1/K4, 296-5396Fri Jun 05 1987 19:314
	That's an easy one - my reward of choice for extra performance
would be time off - either a one-time bonus for a one-time effort, or
an uptick in vacation accrual rate for more sustained afterburning...