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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

110.0. "Solicitation?" by FREMEN::RYAN (Mike Ryan) Tue Apr 29 1986 14:58

	This coming Sunday I'll be participating in the Boston Walk for
	Hunger, and am looking for people to pledge a certain amount per
	mile (up to 20, the length of the walk) that I walk. I planned
	on sending mail to my group, but someone suggested this might
	violate company policy on solicitations. What's the scoop? Also,
	would Digital give matching grants for this?
	
	Mike
	
	P.S. If "solicitation" is OK, consider this one:-) Otherwise
	this is a purely hypothetical question, and no one should
	contact me at MKO1-2/E25, DTN 264-8280, to make a pledge:-)
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110.1LSTARK::THOMPSONAlfred C Thompson, IITue Apr 29 1986 18:259
    I believe this is ok. It would not be ok for someone who doesn't
    work for DEC to do it though. I've gotten my fair share of this
    kind of solicitation in my mail in the past. I've never heard any
    one complain.
    
    I think DEC would match people's contributions. They'd all have
    to give you a signed matching gift form.
    
    		Alfred
110.2The Noon Family Walks together2LITTL::BERNSTEINTem Noon is a Street BuddhistTue Apr 29 1986 19:0711
    	How about soliciting in Notes conferences? I'm also walking
    (Thanks Mike, he told me about it) and was thinking about putting
    some notes around, asking for pledges by mail...to collect the money,
    I could meet the people, or get it by US mail. Any obvious objections?
    
    	(I can do it too then, Mike) send me E-mail. I'm walking with
    my wife and our little tiny children, who's legs aren't likely to
    make it so far. And people ARE hungry out there. 
    
    	Ed
    	
110.3ThanksFREMEN::RYANMike RyanTue Apr 29 1986 20:2617
	Thanks Alfred. Where do I get the matching gift forms, by the
	way? My local PAC? And am I responsible for handling them, or
	does whoever makes a pledge to me take care of them? While we're
	on the subject, I'm not too clear on how the matching gift
	program works - what kinds of gifts are eligible, for one thing?
	I just had this strange hallucination in which I bought Girl
	Scout cookies and DEC bought me an equal amount:-). Must be
	getting close to dinnertime...
	
	Mike
	
	P.S.: Not that I wish to compete with Tem Noon (competition in
	this context would be just plain silly), but if you want to make
	a pledge send your name, Enet address, mailstop (and I believe
	they ask for home address, too - I didn't get the forms yet) to
	me at FREMEN::RYAN. Or 2LITTL::BERNSTEIN. Whoever's closer I
	guess is best - I'm in Merrimack, Tem is in Marlboro.
110.4Digital policyLATOUR::AMARTINAlan H. MartinTue Apr 29 1986 21:0422
"
Personnel Policies and Procedures
Section 6.19
Page 1 of 1
Date 17 May 82

		Solicitations and Distribution of Literature

It is Digital's policy that all employees are not to solicit other
employees for any purpose during working time.  Working time does
not include break time or meal time.  Digital employees are not
permitted to distribute literature of any kind and at any time in
working areas.

Persons who are not employees of the company are prohibited from
distributing literature of any kind or soliciting employees for any
purpose at any time on company property.
"

Presumably the above notes which solicited aid for various worthy causes
were typed in during a break from work.
				/AHM
110.5Matching Gift Procedure for Hunger WalkTHUNDR::SOUZATue Apr 29 1986 22:0715
The March 31 Maynard DTW contains an article specifying a special procedure
which has been set up for matching gifts for the walk for hunger.

Basically, you get everyone's badge number when they pledge. Then you send in
a copy of the list to the dec matching gift folks, fill out the matching
gift form, and send it along with the money to the walk for hunger.

If you have more than the 1 person/org/year maximum ($1000?), then you
have to get someone else to fill out another matching gift forms.

I got my info and walking papers from Ginny Kristi @ 223-4970


bob

110.6Hmmm2LITTL::BERNSTEINTem Noon is a Street BuddhistWed Apr 30 1986 15:556
    	Did they type the DTW article in their spare time?
    
    							;-)
    
    	Ed
    
110.7The Horse Of A Different ColorALIEN::MELVINThu May 01 1986 03:228
Re:   .4   gee, where does that leave the United Way campaign?  I have
	   been 'hounded' for that with the card as well as from an
	   employee seeking funds for her PK walk!

	   "All solicitors are create (un)equal?"

-Joe

110.8Fresh Air, anyone?2LITTL::BERNSTEINTem Noon is a Street BuddhistThu May 01 1986 04:1332
    	While we're on the subject, the Fresh Air Fund is looking for
    people to take underprivaledged children out of the inner New York
    streets and put them into family homes for periods of two weeks.
    The service I've seen is called the Friendly Town program. My wife
    just went to a meeting at the Boylston Library, where she got an
    application. They have many more kids then families, so anyone who
    thinks they might be interested should send for more information.
    Unless you specifically request a child with special problems, you
    can be fairly certain that the child will be managable, and will
    certainly appreciate spending two weeks seeing some trees that aren't
    wrapped in fences and surrounded by concrete. Also, it can easily
    be made a yearly event, taking the same child every summer over
    many years, which could lead to a very nice experience all the way
    around...a real cultural exchange for you and your family.
    
    	For more information (in the central Mass area) call Marion
    Warren in Sterling at (617) 422-7429, or Diane Rockwell in Lancaster
    at (617) 365-5092. If you're not in their area, you can call them
    for the names of coordinators in your area, or try the New York
    central office at (212) 221-0900. The address in New York, if you
    prefer to write, is:
    
    	The Fresh Air Fund
    	70 West 40th Street
    	New York, NY  10018
    
    	Ask about the Friendly Town program.
    
    	Thanks
    
    	Ed
    
110.9One way to handle itCFIG1::WILKINSDick Wilkins, Sub Sys Eng CXOThu May 01 1986 16:0423
>    Re:   .4   gee, where does that leave the United Way campaign?  I have
>	   been 'hounded' for that with the card as well as from an
>	   employee seeking funds for her PK walk!
>
>	   "All solicitors are create (un)equal?"


    Re .7  I solved the problem of being 'hounded' for the United Way
    all the time. In a previous job assignment here at Digital my boss
    was the local site promoter of the campaign. I have a personal problem
    with the United Way and their policys around what agencies they
    fund and how those agencies expend the funds they are given.
    
    I was harassed into attending one of their presentations so while
    there I asked some pointed questions about the above and stirred
    up quite a controversy with with those present. After that my boss
    informed me that opposing points of view were not welcome at the
    presentations and that they were only for presenting positive views
    of the United Way. Also that I was not welcome and any future 
    presentations. I have happily not attended.
    
    				Dick
    
110.10AKOV01::HAUENSTEINEel NietsneuahThu May 01 1986 16:538
    > After that my boss
    > informed me that opposing points of view were not welcome at the
    > presentations and that they were only for presenting positive views
    > of the United Way.

    Gee, that's a good healthy attitude!

    Lee
110.11BPOV09::MIOLAPhantomFri May 02 1986 12:3122
    .9
    
    Wait till you actually have to ask one of the organizations
    for help.
    
    Then you'll really feel like donating. 
    I got answers like, if you were on welfare, we could.............
    
    Or if you left your wife and kids we could..................
    
    That was real great, my wife is dying in a hospital, and I was
    supposed to leave her.
    
    And I was only asking for some help with baby sitting two children,
    (1 & 1/2 and new born) a few hours a week. Forget about medical
    assisstance.
     I also have a woman who worls for me, with an invalid husband,
    same problems when she tried to get a little assisstance.
    
    
       Sorry, about my grumbling, but when I hear United way, my blood
    boils. 
110.12One Deep ConcernINK::KALLISFri May 02 1986 15:4416
    re .9 - .11:
    
    My biggest concern about the relationship with the United Way is
    that your contribution is part of your _personnel record_! n nEvery
    "update" to my personnel file I receive includes the amount (0)
    of my United Way contribution.
    
    [After a time in the sertvice, there are some organizations in the
    United Way umbrella I want to be sure get niot one red cent of my
    money.]
    
    A charity should be just that, and should (in theory, anyway) be
    fully separate from one's employment activities.
    
    Steve
    
110.13My reasons for rejecting United WayDSSDEV::SAUTERJohn SauterFri May 02 1986 21:158
    I've never signed up for United Way because I've never understood
    how the money was distributed.  Also, I am concerned that the people
    who run United Way could come to dominate the organizations they
    solicit for, because of their control of funds.  At the extreme,
    it could get as bad as some union's pension funds.
    
    After reading these notes I feel better about my decision.
        John Sauter
110.14Back to my topic...FREMEN::RYANMike RyanTue May 06 1986 21:2410
	re .5:
	
	Exactly where should I send the list of badge numbers? What
	other information is necessary (presumably my name and badge
	number, and the amount donated,... what about the amount donated
	by each person?)? I tried calling the person you mentioned, but
	was told she no longer worked there and no one else knew
	anything about it.
	
	Mike
110.15CONS::ROSEThu May 15 1986 14:318
    
    OK, so I inoccently signed up for the United Way deduction last
    year... how do I get of it??
    
    Thanks!
    
    Bob
    
110.16Easy, see your PSAFURILO::BLINNDr. Tom @MROFri May 16 1986 03:175
        Contact your PSA.  There is a form (I'm not sure just which
        one) that you can fill out to specify the amount of the weekly
        deduction.  Adjust it to $0.00 per week.
        
        Tom
110.17That time of year again...BCSE::RYANDigital notes = CDMon Apr 27 1987 19:508
	I'm participating in the Walk for Hunger again this year. Is
	the matching gift procedure the same as last year (i.e., send
	a photocopy of the walking papers with badge numbers to the
	appropriate place, wherever that is, and a matching gift form
	for the total donated by Digital employees to Walk for
	Hunger)?
	
	Mike
110.18DEC will match, somehowULTRA::HERBISONUNAUTHORIZED ACCESS ONLYMon Apr 27 1987 21:1010
        Re: .17
        
        I don't know the procedure, but a participant in my group
        says that DEC will match and that it works like last year.
        
        [That was my requirement before making a pledge, otherwise
        I would make a direct contribution somewhere else that would
        be matched.  Actually, I will make other contributions anyway.]
        
        					B.J.
110.19re: 1754.34SDSVAX::SWEENEYPatrick Sweeney in New YorkWed Feb 12 1992 21:5610
    The US policy on solicitation, 6.19 refers to the acts of employees,
    "employees shall not solicit other employees".
    
    It doesn't refer to the acts of the corporation.  In fact, I don't
    believe that there is a policy that is equally binding on employees as
    well as the corporation in the same way.
    
    Anticipating a question. "Who speaks for the corporation?"  The
    officers do.  "Who are the officers?" The president and certain other
    employees (they may all be vice presidents, but I'm not certain.)
110.20MU::PORTERyou call this a network?Wed Feb 12 1992 23:158
    Do they define "solicit" ?
    
    My dictionary says "To entreat or petition (a person) for, or to
    do, something".
    
    So when my boss next says "Dave, would you please look 
    into <whatever>", can I tell her she's violating company 
    policy?
110.21You can say anything -- just be prepared for the consequences...SNOBRD::CONLIFFEout-of-the-closet ThespianThu Feb 13 1992 12:567
|    So when my boss next says "Dave, would you please look 
|    into <whatever>", can I tell her she's violating company 
|    policy?

Yes you can ---  once.

			Nigel
110.22BAGELS::REEDThu Feb 13 1992 16:1910
    
    
    	Re .21
    
    	That reminds me of some good advice I got while in the Navy....
    
    	You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.
    	(But you can make him wish the hell he did!)
    
    
110.23Horse feathers...CTOAVX::BRAVERMANSounds like assonance to me...Fri Feb 14 1992 00:399
    
    The Air Force, had a similar horse story, but it goes this way;
    
    You can lead a horse to water, but if you can make float on his back, you
    really got something.
    
    
    
    
110.24COMICS::BELLHear the softly spoken magic spellMon Feb 17 1992 07:573
  
  <- a dead horse ?