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Conference kernel::csguk_systems

Title:CSGUK_SYSTEMS
Notice:No restrictions on keyword creation
Moderator:KERNEL::ADAMS
Created:Wed Mar 01 1989
Last Modified:Thu Nov 28 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:242
Total number of notes:1855

173.0. "Dave Gledhill - team mascot" by COMICS::GLEDHILL () Sun Apr 24 1994 05:28

As you must all know by now I am your team mascot. I am putting this note 
here to discuss how I intend to work with the group and some ideas I have. 
Please reply with any thoughts...

I will be putting up some other notes with some more detailed suggestions 
on other things eg writing up calls/taking software calls.

listing in order of importance.

1. Take some responsibility for calls taken into the group to be worked on. ie

	give advice/action plans on these when requested (well the crash dump 
	type calls anyway)

	try to ensure that such calls are escallated at the right time (not 
	always to me - at the request of the rest of BS!).

   this can be done by (1) YOU mailing the log no and location of dump etc 
   and/or (2) ME regularly checking all the queues to see what calls the group
   own. (I need to know if people mind me doing this).


(i see this as the main priority after talking to others, there is an 
impression that there is little problem ownership in the group, calls are
held onto for a while, until the customer complains then they are quickly 
escallated! To remove that impression I would like to keep a closer eye on
these calls, make sure it doesn't happen - i doubt if it does happen that much
anyway, but we need to be seen doing something about it).

   So if you want me to look at a call and make some suggestions all I need
   is a mail with the log no. I can then read the call see all the info
   and the work that you have done already on it and put an update on it. 

   I suggest doing it that way to force us keep all the info on nice, rather
   than mailing/talking it about and it getting left off the call.

   I have some thoughts on how we should write up calls which I will put up
   later. 

   What about me looking in queues as well. Should it be my responsibility to
   chase you on the calls or should I wait for you guys to ask - answers on a 
   postcard...  

2. Help by taking calls when availability low.

    you will have to let me know in advance when this is likely to be. Having
    the rota on line means I can check easier.

3. Front line support - 

	giving realtime advice on live calls (as oppossed to calls that are 
	being worked in the group.) Don't see this as important as the others,
	as there always other people about or on call who can do this as well
	as me. I see my main job at this stage advising on the dumps that are
	sent in...

	I have a phone so you can phone me up and ask questions. As I don't
	work fixed hours you can phone during evenings/weekends as well
	as day hours. (I do most dialing in when the phone rates are cheaper
	so prefer to do any indepth work at evening/weekend times).

	Sometimes won't be near a terminal so may not be able
	to dial on straight-away but can still chat anyway. I have the phone
	on just about all the time, but there are times it don't pick up too
	good, so may get forwarded to voice mail instead. (for details of
	phone no and what times I want to be called see router. Generally I
	am prepared to be called anytime by DM (eg if vms standby taken sick 
	need me to take some call), for questions usually anytime I am
	awake. This can vary, I try to put a rough idea onto router.

4 TCD.(?)

	there are new SW guides coming out, let me know if you want to see them
	if you don't know where they are.

	I always say tcd should relate to the job, so file calls that show
	any of the skills in the profile. 
	
	Won't do all of it - will farm bits out, but will probably be tech
	moderator for group.

DG.
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173.1KERNEL::ANTHONYSun Apr 24 1994 21:4395
173.2how can we shut gledhill up?COMICS::GLEDHILLThu Apr 28 1994 04:18116
Here is more mumble from me. I sent it to the CIG committee just now!


	I don't expect I will be at your CIG meeting, I have made some of my
views known in the notes file, I don't feel that all of them have been
understood too good though! I am putting down a few points here to clarify,plus
some more stuff!.

1.	The whole thing about writing up calls is to make it easy for me and
others to find out what has gone on with a call and what the current status is
without too much brain damage.

(looking through many of the groups calls is a NIGHTMARE and very time
consuming. You can mail the call to yourself, but it don't read in
chronological order - also a lot of them are too long for mail to work). Doing 
show description 20 or so times is no fun either.)

	To this end I think ONE description (I suggested 'A' for this) to
summarise all the action plans, technical conclusions locations of dumps etc.
Hopefully an ops/backup/manager person could look at this one description and
get a summary of all that has gone on. If they want more info they can look at
other descriptions and find

	technical updates by various specialists (gory details)
	diagnosis notifications to the branch
	canasta summary (for proposed search tool also)	
	comments from people outsinde the group (eg ops, ccd)

What codes we give these don't matter too much as long as we all agree and
it is easy to remember/not too confusing. (I think the only bit that is 
in dispute is the first two, what we should call them eg p and dn or P and
ta/td)

Also the number of updates don't matter too much, if the call goes through a
new phase it might be appropriate to create a new 'a' description, likewise
if different specialists have a go it makes sense to have different technical
updates if they have a lot to say. I just want us to get away from the current
thing where you may have the same person put half a dozen updates on in a
couple of days...
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2. As well looking at calls when asked, I have been going through the calls
in the systems and bug_hold queue on an ad-hoc basis. I time stamp the call
using the opt-sup field and if I can think of anything useful to say I will
put an update on. Also if I think the call needs some action I will
say - eg escallating. 

A number of questions comes to mind on this

>	I would like to do this through individual queues. Does the group 
	want me to do this - or should I leave other peoples queues alone?

>	if I timestamp the calls can I ask others to leave that field alone, 
	if it gets used for other things my system will get confused!

	I don't want to sound too pushy but if I put an update on a
	call saying should do this - I would rather have an argument about
	it than be ignored. (I can think of a recent example when I put
	update in evening with a comment on the front saying to check my update
	- but was told the next day that hadn't get around it because he wasn't 
	too sure about ....) If I haven't made myself clear please mail or 
	phone me, especially if it is an important customer.

	(I am not making this a high priority, I will aim to look at most calls
	about once a week, but only when I have the time. I don't want chaps to
	start relying on me to do it, if you want help on a call please still
	ask.
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3. 	Regarding call ownership. I like the way that the calls are
	owned by the group rather than one person. Much better way of doing
	things. to make it work best need to sort a few things - if not already

 	  what happens if someone is away, especially aes calls, who responds to
	  the updates

	  how do we ensure that an indepth analysis is performed (rather than
	  several people having a quick look). I expect that is where I can
	  help, but think it should be part of the procedure independant of me??

	  (as I think I mentioned, need clearer updates, if you are passing
	  calls around all the info must be on the calls in an easy to find
	  format)
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4. > 	Can you make sure that dumps are not automatically deleted when the 
	call is closed. (If it is a call I have worked on please mail me just
	in case - I have been caught out before when I have resequenced a
	call and lost the dump AND the tape got sent back! These ongoing
	problems where the call is closed pending a recurrance, it would 
	be advantagous to retain the dump or at least the tape for a month
	or so.

	(i will be setting up something (oneday) to help archive dumps...
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5. 	Please make the use of the available information. With the high volume
	of calls you guys do it is easy to not to use what you 
	have already. 	I do this myself, often miss the obvious.

	eg.	
	Non-fatal bugcheck, set bug-check fatal but not check the error-log
	to see what crash it is.
	hangs - getting the customer to force a crash but not getting them
	to halt/continue a few times to see what it is doing.
	Not getting the customer to check the console/search operator.log


	etc ...
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6.      When you want to get hold of me - the details of when I am expecting
	be contacted should be uptodate on router, (normally when I am awake.)
	If you can't get through you should get a voice mail instead. Please
	leave a message I should get it as I check voice mail quite often. If
	you can try again a little later if you don't mind as them
	yuppy phones don't always get thru first time.
	
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