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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

3778.0. "Problem with SNMP traps" by STKMCC::LUND (Niklas Lund) Mon Sep 21 1992 18:24

Hi !

I tried to set up occurs rules to catch snmp traps. I have one rule for
each generic trap because the linkup and linkdown traps are handled in a
another domain and sent to the rigth interface via the collection_am.

When the traps get's into the mcc system the rigth rule fires but the coldstart 
rule also always fires for all types of traps. Please see example below.

When requesting the traps one by one from the notify request window as a
workaround it's ok.

I have reproduced this problem on two different systems with CISCO and Chipcom
equipment generating the traps. 

$ man/ent
DECmcc (V1.2.0)

MCC> show mcc 0 tcpip_am sink all count

MCC 0      TCPIP_AM SINK
AT 21-SEP-1992 19:48:09 Counters

Examination of attributes shows:
                        Current Clients = 6
               coldStart Traps Received = 0
               warmStart Traps Received = 0
                linkDown Traps Received = 0
                  linkUp Traps Received = 0
   authenticationFailure Traps Received = 6
         egpNeighborLoss Traps Received = 0
      enterpriseSpecific Traps Received = 0
                   Total Traps Received = 6
                  Counter Creation Time = 21-SEP-1992 19:32:05.34

MCC> notify domain allen_plan_2
%MCC-S-NOTIFSTART, Notify request 2 started

MCC> ena mcc 0 alarms rule * , in domain allen_plan_2

MCC 0 ALARMS RULE authenticationfailure
AT 21-SEP-1992 19:51:29

Normal operation has begun.

MCC 0 ALARMS RULE Coldstart
AT 21-SEP-1992 19:51:30

Normal operation has begun.

MCC 0 ALARMS RULE Warmstart
AT 21-SEP-1992 19:51:30
                            
MCC> show mcc 0 alarms rule * all attr, in domain allen_plan_2

MCC 0 ALARMS RULE authenticationfailure
AT 21-SEP-1992 19:51:38 All Attributes

                                   NAME = authenticationfailure
                                  State = Enabled
                               Substate = Running
              Result of Last Evaluation = In progress
                       Current Severity = Critical
                     Creation Timestamp = 21-SEP-1992 19:51:29.95
                       Evaluation Error = 0
                        Evaluation True = 0
                       Evaluation False = 0
                             Expression = (OCCURS (SNMP *
                                          authenticationfailure))
                     Perceived Severity = Critical
                         Probable Cause = Unknown

MCC 0 ALARMS RULE Coldstart
AT 21-SEP-1992 19:51:39 All Attributes

                                   NAME = Coldstart
                                  State = Enabled
                               Substate = Running
              Result of Last Evaluation = In progress
                       Current Severity = Critical
                     Creation Timestamp = 21-SEP-1992 19:51:30.83
                       Evaluation Error = 0
                        Evaluation True = 0
                       Evaluation False = 0
                             Expression = (OCCURS (SNMP *  coldstart))
                     Perceived Severity = Critical
                         Probable Cause = Unknown

MCC 0 ALARMS RULE Warmstart
AT 21-SEP-1992 19:51:39 All Attributes

                                   NAME = Warmstart
                                  State = Enabled
                               Substate = Running
              Result of Last Evaluation = In progress
                       Current Severity = Critical
                     Creation Timestamp = 21-SEP-1992 19:51:31.00
                       Evaluation Error = 0
                        Evaluation True = 0
                       Evaluation False = 0
                             Expression = (OCCURS (SNMP *  warmstart))
                     Perceived Severity = Critical
                         Probable Cause = Unknown

MCC> show snmp tmpsys4 all char, by passw niklas !** wrong password = authentic
ation failure

!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Alarm, 21-SEP-1992 19:53:09 !!!!!!!!!!!!!! [2]
Domain: ANTIK_NS:.ALLEN_PLAN_2                        Severity: Critical
Notification Entity: SNMP ANTIK_NS:.TMPSYS4
Event Source: Domain ANTIK_NS:.ALLEN_PLAN_2 Rule Coldstart
Event: OSI Rule Fired

                             Event Type = QualityofServiceAlarm
                             Event Time = 21-SEP-1992 19:53:08.00
                         Probable Cause = Unknown
                        Additional Info = { (
                               significance = True,
                                information = "The last event detected: SNMP
                                              ANTIK_NS:.TMPSYS4
                                              authenticationFailure
                                              21-SEP-1992 19:53:07.43" ),
                                            (
                               significance = True,
                                information = "Event: authenticationFailure An
                                              authenticationFailure trap was
                                             received:  enterprise =
                                              ""1.3.6.1.4.1.49.1.3.1.0""
                                              agent-addr = 16.181.0.204
                                              generic-trap =
                                              authenticationFailure
                                              specific-trap = 0  time-stamp =
                                              29497427" ),
                                            (
                               significance = True,
                                information = "(OCCURS (SNMP *  coldstart))" ) }
                         Managed Object = SNMP ANTIK_NS:.TMPSYS4
                     Perceived Severity = Critical



!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Alarm, 21-SEP-1992 19:53:10 !!!!!!!!!!!!!! [2]
Domain: ANTIK_NS:.ALLEN_PLAN_2                        Severity: Critical
Notification Entity: SNMP ANTIK_NS:.TMPSYS4
Event Source: Domain ANTIK_NS:.ALLEN_PLAN_2 Rule authenticationfailure
Event: OSI Rule Fired

                             Event Type = QualityofServiceAlarm
                             Event Time = 21-SEP-1992 19:53:08.15
                         Probable Cause = Unknown
                        Additional Info = { (
                              significance = True,
                                information = "The last event detected: SNMP
                                              ANTIK_NS:.TMPSYS4
                                              authenticationFailure
                                              21-SEP-1992 19:53:07.43" ),
                                            (
                               significance = True,
                                information = "Event: authenticationFailure An
                                              authenticationFailure trap was
                                              received:  enterprise =
                                              ""1.3.6.1.4.1.49.1.3.1.0""
                                              agent-addr = 16.181.0.204
                                              generic-trap =
                                              authenticationFailure
                                              specific-trap = 0  time-stamp =
                                              29497427" ),
                                           (
                               significance = True,
                                information = "(OCCURS (SNMP *
                                              authenticationfailure))" ) }
                         Managed Object = SNMP ANTIK_NS:.TMPSYS4
                     Perceived Severity = Critical

!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!! The above notification are repeated two times 
!!!!!!!! due to the two UDP retries i think ?? 
!!!!!!!!


SNMP tmpsys4
AT 21-SEP-1992 19:53:07 Characteristics

No response from entity.

MCC> show mcc 0 tcpip_am sink all count

MCC 0      TCPIP_AM SINK
AT 21-SEP-1992 19:54:37 Counters

Examination of attributes shows:
                        Current Clients = 6
               coldStart Traps Received = 0
               warmStart Traps Received = 0
                linkDown Traps Received = 0
                  linkUp Traps Received = 0
   authenticationFailure Traps Received = 9
         egpNeighborLoss Traps Received = 0
      enterpriseSpecific Traps Received = 0
                   Total Traps Received = 9
                  Counter Creation Time = 21-SEP-1992 19:32:05.34
/Niklas
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3778.1Bug in SNMP AM.YAHEY::BOSEThu Sep 24 1992 14:599
	Niklas,
		You have uncovered a bug in the SNMP AM. It will be fixed in
	the next release. 

		Regarding your other question, yes, you get the multiple 
	authentificationFailure traps because of the UDP retries.

	Rahul.
3778.2CSOADM::ROTHI'm getting closer to my home...Tue Sep 29 1992 21:2810
>	Niklas,
>		You have uncovered a bug in the SNMP AM. It will be fixed in
>	the next release. 

Any idea when this will be available... or a patch to fix this particular
problem? It is rather visible at the site I am working at.

Thanks-

Lee Roth
3778.3Which release will fix this known bug??ZUR01::FUEGLISTERRoland Fueglister, 760-2498Wed Apr 07 1993 12:33176
The following happens with POLYcenter Network Manager 400 V2.3 SSB:

After receiving two WarmStart traps from two different SNMP devices, I got a
notification from alarm rules which are listening to coldstart and linkdown
traps!!
Have a look at the attached LOG.
 
RE: .1 

/	Niklas,
/		You have uncovered a bug in the SNMP AM. It will be fixed in
/	the next release. 
/
/	Rahul.

What means "fixed in the next release" ? Which release ?

This nasty bug should be resolved soon.


				Best Regards,

				Roland







****5-APR-1993 11:01:43.99	SNMP LOCAL_NS:.ch.psi.ip.psth09****

Rule:     Domain LOCAL_NS:.mcc_alarm_hidden Rule linkdown_trap
Info1:    The last event detected: SNMP LOCAL_NS:.ch.psi.ip.psth09 warmStart   5
          -APR-1993 11:01:43.47
Info2:    Event: warmStart A warmStart trap was received:  enterprise = "1.3.6.
          1.4.1.26.22.2"  agent-addr = 129.129.120.9  generic-trap = warmStart  
          specific-trap = 0  time-stamp = 43          
 
 
****5-APR-1993 11:01:44.93	SNMP LOCAL_NS:.ch.psi.ip.psth09****

Rule:     Domain LOCAL_NS:.mcc_alarm_hidden Rule coldstart_trap
Info1:    The last event detected: SNMP LOCAL_NS:.ch.psi.ip.psth09 warmStart   5
          -APR-1993 11:01:43.47
Info2:    Event: warmStart A warmStart trap was received:  enterprise = "1.3.6.
          1.4.1.26.22.2"  agent-addr = 129.129.120.9  generic-trap = warmStart  
          specific-trap = 0  time-stamp = 43           
 
 
****6-APR-1993 15:05:44.97	SNMP LOCAL_NS:.ch.psi.ip.psth0c****

Rule:     Domain LOCAL_NS:.mcc_alarm_hidden Rule linkdown_trap
Info1:    The last event detected: SNMP LOCAL_NS:.ch.psi.ip.psth0c warmStart   6
          -APR-1993 15:05:43.91
Info2:    Event: warmStart A warmStart trap was received:  enterprise = "1.3.6.
          1.4.1.26.22.2"  agent-addr = 129.129.120.12  generic-trap = warmStart 
           specific-trap = 0  time-stamp = 43  
 
 
****6-APR-1993 15:05:45.56	SNMP LOCAL_NS:.ch.psi.ip.psth0c****

Rule:     Domain LOCAL_NS:.mcc_alarm_hidden Rule coldstart_trap
Info1:    The last event detected: SNMP LOCAL_NS:.ch.psi.ip.psth0c warmStart   6
          -APR-1993 15:05:43.91
Info2:    Event: warmStart A warmStart trap was received:  enterprise = "1.3.6.
          1.4.1.26.22.2"  agent-addr = 129.129.120.12  generic-trap = warmStart 
           specific-trap = 0  time-stamp = 43 
 
 

MCC 0      TCPIP_AM SINK 
AT  6-APR-1993 16:19:02 Counters

Examination of attributes shows:
                        Current Clients = 6
               coldStart Traps Received = 0
               warmStart Traps Received = 2
                linkDown Traps Received = 0
                  linkUp Traps Received = 0
   authenticationFailure Traps Received = 0
         egpNeighborLoss Traps Received = 0
      enterpriseSpecific Traps Received = 0
                   Total Traps Received = 2
                  Counter Creation Time =  2-APR-1993 14:07:26.77

MCC 0      TCPIP_AM SINK 
AT  6-APR-1993 16:19:04 Status

Examination of attributes shows:
                             Sink State = Running
                 Time when Sink Started =  2-APR-1993 14:07:26.77
                     Time of Last Event =  6-APR-1993 15:05:43.91
                     Type of Last Event = warmStart

Domain LOCAL_NS:.mcc_alarm_hidden Rule coldstart_trap 
AT  6-APR-1993 16:26:26 Rule Attributes

                                   Name = coldstart_trap
                             Expression = (OCCURS (snmp * ColdStart))
                            Description = "This rule is watching for ColdStart Traps from any SNMP objects"
                               Category = "Trap"
                  Alarm Fired Procedure = $DISK1:[MCC.ALARMS]OSI_RULE_FIRED.COM;1
                            Batch Queue = "decmcc$batch"
                               Severity = Indeterminate
                         Probable Cause = Unknown
                                  State = Enabled
                               Substate = Running
                Time of Last Evaluation =  6-APR-1993 15:05:45.56
              Result of Last Evaluation = True
                       Current Severity = Indeterminate
                     Creation Timestamp =  2-APR-1993 14:13:04.37
                       Evaluation Error = 0
                        Evaluation True = 2
                       Evaluation False = 0

Domain LOCAL_NS:.mcc_alarm_hidden Rule warmstart_trap 
AT  6-APR-1993 16:26:34 Rule Attributes

                                   Name = warmstart_trap
                             Expression = (OCCURS (snmp * WarmStart))
                            Description = "This rule is watching for WarmStart Traps from any SNMP objects"
                               Category = "Trap"
                  Alarm Fired Procedure = $DISK1:[MCC.ALARMS]OSI_RULE_FIRED.COM;1
                            Batch Queue = "decmcc$batch"
                               Severity = Indeterminate
                         Probable Cause = Unknown
                                  State = Enabled
                               Substate = Running
              Result of Last Evaluation = In progress
                       Current Severity = Indeterminate
                     Creation Timestamp =  2-APR-1993 14:13:06.75
                       Evaluation Error = 0
                        Evaluation True = 0
                       Evaluation False = 0

Domain LOCAL_NS:.mcc_alarm_hidden Rule linkup_trap 
AT  6-APR-1993 16:26:47 Rule Attributes

                                   Name = linkup_trap
                             Expression = (OCCURS (snmp * LinkUp))
                            Description = "This rule is watching for LinkUp Traps from any SNMP objects"
                               Category = "Trap"
                  Alarm Fired Procedure = $DISK1:[MCC.ALARMS]OSI_RULE_FIRED.COM;1
                            Batch Queue = "decmcc$batch"
                               Severity = Indeterminate
                         Probable Cause = Unknown
                                  State = Enabled
                               Substate = Running
              Result of Last Evaluation = In progress
                       Current Severity = Indeterminate
                     Creation Timestamp =  2-APR-1993 14:13:04.74
                       Evaluation Error = 0
                        Evaluation True = 0
                       Evaluation False = 0

Domain LOCAL_NS:.mcc_alarm_hidden Rule linkdown_trap 
AT  6-APR-1993 16:26:56 Rule Attributes

                                   Name = linkdown_trap
                             Expression = (OCCURS (snmp * LinkDown))
                            Description = "This rule is watching for LinkDown Traps from any SNMP objects"
                               Category = "Trap"
                  Alarm Fired Procedure = $DISK1:[MCC.ALARMS]OSI_RULE_FIRED.COM;1
                            Batch Queue = "decmcc$batch"
                               Severity = Indeterminate
                         Probable Cause = Unknown
                                  State = Enabled
                               Substate = Running
                Time of Last Evaluation =  6-APR-1993 15:05:44.97
              Result of Last Evaluation = True
                       Current Severity = Indeterminate
                     Creation Timestamp =  2-APR-1993 14:13:04.46
                       Evaluation Error = 0
                        Evaluation True = 2
                       Evaluation False = 0
3778.4MOLAR::YAHEY::BOSEWed Apr 07 1993 13:405
	The bug was fixed in DECmcc BMS V1.3 (Polycenter Network Manager 200),
	which has recently gone into SSB.

	Rahul.
3778.5I'm working with DECmcc V1.3 SSBZUR01::FUEGLISTERRoland Fueglister, 760-2498Thu Apr 08 1993 08:1414
			Hi Rahul,

You seemed to have overlooked something or maybe I have encountered a NEW bug.
 
RE. .3
/ The following happens with POLYcenter Network Manager 400 V2.3 SSB: /

DECmcc BMS V1.3 SSB is part of the POLYcenter Network Manager 400 V2.3 SSB!


				Best regards,
 
				Roland

3778.6Recreate alarms MIRSTKMCC::LUNDNiklas LundThu Apr 08 1993 12:137
Hi,

Roland if you have gone from 1.2 to 1.3 I recommend that you run
mcc_alarms_extract_rules.exe and then delete the alarms MIR and recreate it with
mcc_alarms_rules.com.

/Niklas
3778.7I will do itZUR01::FUEGLISTERRoland Fueglister, 760-2498Tue Apr 13 1993 16:2612
			Hi Niklas,

I indeed did an update from V1.2 to V1.3 and did not recreate the Alarms MIR.

I will try out what you have recommended. Earliest date for testing your
workaround solution will be week 18 or 19.

Thank you for your answer.

			Best regards,

			Roland