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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

3677.0. "Local namespace and autotopology problems" by BRSSWS::FOLENS () Wed Sep 02 1992 16:57

    We have configured a MCC station on a DECstation with a local
    namespace and we have problems to run autotopology for DECnet.
    Do you need to edit the mcc_autotopology.dat to remove the prefixes
    .domain. , .ip. , .dna_node. because you can not create these
    directories or will they be automatically created by the procedure?
    From the documentation it is also not clear how to create a map-file
    that you can open and edit after autotopology is done.
    Can someone explain me step by step what actions I need to take to
    create an Iconic map that contains all nodes and connections via
    the autotopology procedure.
    
    -Geert-
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3677.1Prefixes are a good ideaTOOK::FIGWERUlla Figwer LKG2-2/T2 x226-7858Tue Sep 08 1992 17:5586
	Hello Geert,

  >  Do you need to edit the mcc_autotopology.dat to remove the prefixes
  >  .domain. , .ip. , .dna_node. because you can not create these
  >  directories or will they be automatically created by the procedure?

	It is not necessary (or possible) for you or the utility to 
	create directories in a local namespace.  Directories to match
	the prefixes in mcc_autoconfig_prefix.dat are only required when
	using a DNS namespace.

	However, you may still wish to use the default prefixes (or similar
	ones) to organize registration in the local namespace of nodes found
	by Autoconfiguration.  If so, these prefixes will become part
	of the full name of the entity as registered by Autoconfiguration.

	As outlined in "Local Namespace Planning and the Autoconfiguration
	Prefix File" on page 2-4 of the "DECmcc Autoconfiguration and
	Autotopology Use" manual, one reason to use prefixes is to aviod
	naming conflicts when registering an entity with the same name in
	two different global classes.  For example, once the entity foo
	is registed as NODE4 'foo' it cannot be registered as SNMP 'foo'.
	But if you use prefixes .dna_node. and .ip., the same entity
	could be registered twice, once as NODE4 '.dna_node.foo' and 
	once as SNMP '.ip.foo'.  (If you plan to run both IP and DECnet
	Phase IV Autoconfiguration, you will likely run into this conflict
	and should therefore use prefixes of some sort.)

  	Prefixes are recommended, but not required.  If you feel you do
	not need them, then edit mcc_autoconfig_prefix.dat to specify
	"." as the prefix for any or all of the classes NODE4, SNMP and
	DOMAIN.  However, read the documentation mentioned above
	before making this choice.  Note that the documentation for
	local namespaces is not the same as for DNS namespaces.

  >  From the documentation it is also not clear how to create a map-file
  >  that you can open and edit after autotopology is done.

	Autoconfiguration will create map files for all the domains
 	found during the discovery.  These map files will be created
	in the "working directory" for that run, and copied to MCC_MAPS
	unless you answer "N" to the prompt "Type N to prevent copying 
	DECmcc Map files to MCC_MAPS".  Once they are copied to MCC_MAPS,
	they will be accessible through the DECmcc Iconic Map interface,
	when you open a domain discovered by Autoconfiguration.

	(Note, if you specify "MYDOMAIN" as the name of the domain
	for Autoconfiguration to discover, and your prefix for DOMAIN
	is ".domain.", you should specify ".domain.mydomain" when
	you open the domain using the Iconic Map interface.)
	
  >  Can someone explain me step by step what actions I need to take to
  >  create an Iconic map that contains all nodes and connections via
  >  the autotopology procedure.

	Select "DECmcc DECnet Phase IV Autoconfiguration" from the
	Applications menu.  Answer the questions the utility asks.
	These questions are described on pages 2-9 through 2-13 of
	the DECmcc Autoconfiguration and Autotopology Use manual.

	If in doubt, try choosing the defaults.  In many cases you
	can just type carriage return in response to prompts.

	Be sure to make note of the "working directory" for the
	run.  This is the directory in which all Autoconfigruation
	related files are created.

	Chapter 4 of the manual gives information on how to continue
	answering questions asked specifically by DECnet Phase IV
	Autoconfiguration.  Chapter 2 covers questions which are common
	to both IP and DECnet Phase IV.
   
	It sounds like you would want option "[1] All DECnet Phase IV nodes"
	or "[2] All DECnet Phase IV nodes in selected area(s)".  Option
	[2] will yeild a more limited search but the search will complete
	faster.  You may wish to run [2] several times specifying different
	areas rather than running [1] once.

	Review Chapter 4 and try running the utility.  Let us know
	if you have any more questions.
     
	Regards,

	Ulla Figwer