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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

3549.0. "No VMS Chipcom Hub module??" by SLOVAX::BREINHOLT (Reb Breinholt) Wed Aug 12 1992 23:47

    I have heard a nasty rumor that there will not be a Chipcom access
    module for DECmcc VMS.  If this is true, we are going to take flack from 
    a lot of BIG DECmcc customers.  We have been very successful in selling 
    Chipcom hubs and VMS DECmcc in this area, but we have yet to sell a single 
    Ultrix DECmcc.  I may be mistaken, but I would guess that we are similar
    to the rest of the company - the majority of the DECmcc
    platforms are VAXes.  Have we let a 'strategic partner' make a bad 
    business decision for both of us?  Who can we talk to about this?
    
    I wonder if we consider the existing customers when we plan new products.
    We have 7 customer DECmcc sites where the customer has more than 500 
    nodes to manage.  The smart hubs are very important in providing
    intelligence to manage the larger networks. These customers felt that 
    they were making the safe/strategic choice to run MCC on a VMS platform 
    since, until now, all software modules are or will be available on VMS 
    and that is not true with ULTRIX (like TSAM).  
    
    DECmcc needs a better way to manage the intelligent hubs. 
    The current DECmcc interface to the hubs using SNMP is way too cumbersome.
    It may be okay for small networks, but doing a dozen single and double
    clicks is an EXTREMELY awkward way to check the status of an entity.  
    After the customers see the Chipcom management tool running on a SUN or PC,
    the DECmcc SNMP interface feels like a stone axe.  Should we tell the 
    customers to buy the Chipcom management tool and another platform to run 
    it on?  Will we develop a simple graphic interface to stay competitive?
    
    I am afraid that the inconsistant "strategic" directions  we give 
    to the customers is sometimes good excuse for them to take their business
    elsewere.
    
    
    
    
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3549.1Maybe Dominique can help you...TAEC::HAYESTu quoque mi fili ! C.Hayes SVP @VBEMon Aug 17 1992 14:3410
    
    	Reb,
    
    	You can contact Dominique PACCO (KETJE::PACCO) to get information
    	about the ways to manage the Chipcom Hub with DECmcc VMS.
    
    
    	   	Catherine	
    
    		
3549.2it's time to do it rightSKIBUM::GASSMANWed Aug 19 1992 01:1615
    What Chipcom has done is write a UNIX application that runs on "someone
    elses SNMP manager".  They have, under strong pressure from Digital,
    probably decided to port their UNIX application to ULTRIX, and allow it
    to be launched from either MSU or MCC.  While they can be made aware of
    the VMS customer base, I doubt they will do the VMS port.  The real
    answer to this is a generic "smarthub" application that is capable of
    providing a superset of functionality to all smarthubs.  Then, thru the
    magic of varients and object oriented programming, the widgets
    appropriate to the specific vendor's smarthub (or anything else for
    that matter) are presented to the user.  The industry right now is
    embrolled in a proprietary launch frenzy and ripe for this solution
    which has been suggested before.  It's one of the leapfrog kind of
    solutions that Digital could provide.  
    
    bill