| Title: | DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT. |
| Notice: | Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187 |
| Moderator: | TAEC::BEROUD |
| Created: | Mon Aug 21 1989 |
| Last Modified: | Wed Jun 04 1997 |
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
| Number of topics: | 6497 |
| Total number of notes: | 27359 |
I've looked at other notes on this topic, but I haven't been able to
get a real good feel on whether or not DECmcc can now ( or later) do
this. Here is the customer situation:
They have about 45 Vitalink Bridges and are currently using WAN Manager
to manage them. They know this product is going away (as far as future
enhancements). They have seen the current Vitalink AM under DECmcc
1.1 and needless to say were not impressed. Some features they are
looking for:
Graphic representation of Vitalink Lines and backup lines that will
change colors when they change states. (sort of what the Circuit AM
does?)
Statistics ( line capacity, traffic level, etc)
They also don't feel that the Vitalink AM gives them access to the
Vitalink bridges to the same level that WAN Manager does.
So the questions are:
Will the newer version of the Vitalink AM for 1.2 provide any of
this functionality?
Will the SNMP functions on Vitalink Bridges provide this?
If not, they feel that the other features of DECmcc may not provide
sufficient functionality in their environment to justify the expense.
(Although they like the DECmcc 1.2 version of NETwork Professor a great
deal).
I have never worked with WAN Manager and couldn't make a good
comparison of the two products. I spoke to someone from Vitalink about
when the AM would be ready for 1.2, but did not get the impression that
it would provide the functionality that this customer is seeking even
when it is available.
That leaves me with the impression that SNMP access might be the only
way to satisfy a customer with a true multivendor environment.
If anyone out there would like to comment on thism I'd really
appreciate it.
Thanks,
Rick
| T.R | Title | User | Personal Name | Date | Lines |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 3529.1 | You can do a *lot* w/MCC V1.2 | TOOK::MCPHERSON | Life is hard. Play short. | Mon Aug 10 1992 20:39 | 50 |
Use SNMP, DECmcc V1.2 (RISC/ULTRIX or VAX/VMS) and the Vitalink SNMP
agent.
You can use the DECmcc PA to get MIB-II-based statistics on the
Vitalink bridge lines. (You *can't* get stats on Vitalink-specific
attributes or counters).
If the customer needs console access (that's basically what WANmanager
does) then just hack together a TIP script (this assumes RISC/ULTRIX)
and add it to the "Applications" menu. It'll be able to figure out what
Translan you selectec and to a modem (or whatever) connect to it. Not
rocket science.
It is a MISTAKE to try to position a sale based on the strength (or
weakness, or availability) of a single AM (e.g. Translan AM). (Lego
doesn't sell individual blocks, you know.) DECmcc V1.2 has Sagans of
nifty (and useful) features that can be exploited with just a little
creativity.
Most of your concerns are addressed with V1.2 of DECmcc. (E.g. graphic
representation of circuits, blinky-flashy stuff, etc). There's also a
lot of power in integration with *OTHER APPLICATIONS* that you may want
to push (e.g. trouble ticketing, DECalert, system management via UDM
etc etc etc).
About the Vitalink Translan AM for DECmcc V1.2:
The V1.2 version of the Vitalink AM is only planned to be a MAINTENANCE
release, i.e. NO NEW FEATURES in the AM. (That is not to say that it
couldn't benefit from DECmcc, e.g. stretchy icons, global entity
wildcarding, etc, etc). Itr will only be available on VAX/VMS. The
Vitalink Translan AM (when it becomes available) would not *directly*
support those thing; it inherits them from the generic features of the
platform. Unfortunately, statistics will not be provided either by the
AM *or* DECmcc on behalf of the Translan via the Translan AM.
> I have never worked with WAN Manager and couldn't make a good
> comparison of the two products. I spoke to someone from Vitalink about
> when the AM would be ready for 1.2, but did not get the impression that
> it would provide the functionality that this customer is seeking even
> when it is available.
To whom at Vitlalink did you speak?
Does any of this help?
/doug
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