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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

3494.0. "BRIDGE AM does not handle unreturned status value for LTM" by CUJO::HILL (Dan Hill-Net.Mgt.-Customer Resident) Tue Aug 04 1992 04:45

    Don't know if this is being worked or not.  Please point me to note if
    it is.
    
    When using a global alarm rule to determine operating status of
    bridges, alarms do not fire properly for bridges that are configured 
    to be LTMs.
    
    The notification entry does not show the LTM bridge entity name.
    In addition, the LTM entity will not change color.
    
    Global alarm is:
    
    	(BRIDGE * DEVICE STATUS <> "OPERATING", AT EVERY 00:05:00)
    
    -Dan
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3494.1Alarms does not support variantsMOLAR::ROBERTSKeith Roberts - DECmcc Toolkit TeamTue Aug 04 1992 17:358
  Dan,

  I believe that the Bridge AM support variants; which operating in LTM
  mode would be.  Alarms, however, does not support variants which could
  be why its not working correctly for you.

  /keith
3494.2No such animalSLINK::CHILDSPractice passive aggression.Tue Aug 04 1992 21:3116
| When using a global alarm rule to determine operating status of
| bridges, alarms do not fire properly for bridges that are configured
| to be LTMs.

| Global alarm is:
| (BRIDGE * DEVICE STATUS <> "OPERATING", AT EVERY 00:05:00)

    Two problems here.  The first one is that there is no bridge attribute
    called Device Status.  There is one called Device State, though.  But
    the second problem is that LTM bridges do not support the Device State
    attribute.  If you type

    MCC> show bridge <LTMid> all attributes

    you will see all the valid attributes that you can legally specify for
    a bridge acting as a LAN Traffic Monitor.
3494.3Corrections and restatement: Bridges & LTMCUJO::HILLDan Hill-Net.Mgt.-Customer ResidentThu Aug 06 1992 04:4915
    Sorry for the typo and lack of clarity in .0  .
    
    The global rule did use DEVICE STATE <> "OPERATING".
    
    I realize that a bridge, once downline loaded with LTM software, does
    not respond the same when polled via the BRIDGE AM.
    
    The problem is that, if you have LTMs on your network (we have 5), and
    you wish to use a global alarm rule for BRIDGE, you will get garbage
    notification messages with not entity name, one for each LTM.
    
    In addition, the LTM bridge entity is not highlighted.   This is a
    problem and should be QARed, if it has not been already.
    
    -Dan
3494.4SLINK::CHILDSEd ChildsThu Aug 06 1992 17:449
| The problem is that, if you have LTMs on your network (we have 5), and
| you wish to use a global alarm rule for BRIDGE, you will get garbage
| notification messages with not entity name, one for each LTM.

    OK, I can see why a global alarm rule on Device State would be desired. 
    But, I don't think there is anyway the Bridge AM can be "fixed" to make
    this problem go away.  I believe the PM (FCL or Iconic Map) is
    returning the error "No such attribute."  Comments/Clarification from
    anyone else?
3494.5passing back a bad out_e?POLE::LEMMONThu Aug 06 1992 21:5715
    If i understood .4 correct, the out_e returned from the bridge 
    access module is not correct?  That is, the out entity instance
    is NULL instead of one of the identifier attributes.
    
    If this is the case I would say the iconic map and fcl will have 
    difficulty trying to convert it to a string.   the error message in 
    .4 would be comming from the parse routine that does this conversion.
    
    Not much can be done about this though.  The generic interface 
    relies on the management modules to pass arguments across the call 
    interface correctly.   For performance reasons it does not verify
    the data.  
    
    /jim 
    
3494.6If the LTM bridge does not return 'Device State' ...MOLAR::ROBERTSKeith Roberts - DECmcc Toolkit TeamFri Aug 07 1992 12:4314
  If the LTM bridge does not return 'Device State', the Alarms FM will
  generate an error (something like)

            "The entity did not return the specified Attribute"

  Which makes sense - would be better if Alarms supported variants though
  and indicated this somehow.  Add it to the list .. 8)

  I'm not sure what Alarms does with this error .. I doubt that it fires
  the rule as 'True' .. I think it just records the 'latest' error, and 
  increments the error count.

  /keith
3494.7Global alarms rule change requestedCUJO::HILLDan Hill-Net.Mgt.-Customer ResidentWed Aug 19 1992 03:449
    It would be nice to have the ability to EXCLUDE entities from a global
    alarm rule.  For example:
    
    (BRIDGE * DEVICE STATE <> "OPERATING", EXCLUDE=(bridge2, bridge5), AT
     EVERY 00:10)
    
    This would be great for all global alarm rules.  It should be added.
    
    -Dan