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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

3340.0. "Status of EMS V2.2?" by MAIL::CLAYTON (Merlin Clayton DTN 445-7217) Fri Jul 10 1992 22:38

I was glad to see that DECmcc BMS V1.2 has reached the SSB.  However, I 
have a couple of questions that I need answered so that I can pass the 
information along to my customer running DECmcc SMS V2.1.

Q.  Since SMS is no longer part of the DECmcc package with the V1.2 release,
    do we still plan to upgrade those customers with SMS to EMS V2.2 at no
    charge provided they have the software update service?

Q.  How far away are we from having the EMS V2.2 ready to ship?

Q.  In the interim (between BMS V1.2 and EMS V2.2) do we have an official 
    policy for providing V1.2 functionality to those customers who have
    invested their time and trust in the original DECmcc 1.0 products 
    (e.g., SMS V1.0, EMS V1.0) which has promised an upgrade path all along?

My customer invested in DECmcc SMS V1.0 when it first came out in Nov '89.
They have purchased four complete management systems to-date and have upgraded
hardware at two locations.  They have been waiting patiently for V1.2 
functionality for nearly a year now since we began delivering the PIDs on
DECmcc futures.  There is an element of support for MCC within this 
customer organization that wants to proliferate MCC as their company 
management standard and roll it out to 30 additional sites.  However, 
there are also the DECmcc antagonists who see DECmcc as "proprietary" since
it was not part of the OSF/DME selection and therefore they are pushing 
other management solutions that *ARE* OSF/DME "compliant".  I keep fighting
the battles and delivering the appropriate messages around our directions,
but the DECmcc supporters are finally backed into a corner to the extent
that they are asking "Where's the beef?"

They want V1.2.  And they don't want to wait til October to get it.

Please.  Someone tell me what I can do to help the customer, so that we 
(Digital) can help ourselves.

If any product management folks would like to discuss this off-line, 
please feel free to call or send mail to the address below.

Thanks

Merlin Clayton
DTN  445-7217
(314)991-7217
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3340.1Some responses :BONNET::MALAISEAll you need is laugh!Tue Jul 21 1992 09:3970
>I was glad to see that DECmcc BMS V1.2 has reached the SSB.  However, I 
>have a couple of questions that I need answered so that I can pass the 
>information along to my customer running DECmcc SMS V2.1.
>
>Q.  Since SMS is no longer part of the DECmcc package with the V1.2 release,
>    do we still plan to upgrade those customers with SMS to EMS V2.2 at no
>    charge provided they have the software update service?

	The Corporate Product Manager for this is Junell Silver 
	(delni::j_silver) , I'll ask her to answer for US customers .
	In Europe we plan to provide DECmcc SMS customers one part-Number
	in order to get the DECmcc EMS  License . The price of this Part-Number
	will be very low (# 100 $) , mainly because in Europe we have a large 
	numbers of customers under services contracts or Warranty .

>Q.  How far away are we from having the EMS V2.2 ready to ship?

	Again for Europe , latest dates for DECmcc EMS 2.2 , DECmcc
	Director 1.2 , and all the a-la-carte FM's are targeted for
	mid-September . This means that this should be available
	around mid-August in the US . Again Corp. Product Mgr need
	to confirm .

>Q.  In the interim (between BMS V1.2 and EMS V2.2) do we have an official 
>    policy for providing V1.2 functionality to those customers who have
>    invested their time and trust in the original DECmcc 1.0 products 
>    (e.g., SMS V1.0, EMS V1.0) which has promised an upgrade path all along?

	As you have seen in this notes file , you can have DECmcc-BMS ,
	ELM , TSAM interim PAK and install in the meantime this on your
	customer site .You need to go through the simple procedure
	described in this notes file .

	Hope it helps ,
	Regards ,

	MaRc MaLaIsE , European Network Mgt Marketing Mgr .

ps - who is your customer ?

>My customer invested in DECmcc SMS V1.0 when it first came out in Nov '89.
>They have purchased four complete management systems to-date and have upgraded
>hardware at two locations.  They have been waiting patiently for V1.2 
>functionality for nearly a year now since we began delivering the PIDs on
>DECmcc futures.  There is an element of support for MCC within this 
>customer organization that wants to proliferate MCC as their company 
>management standard and roll it out to 30 additional sites.  However, 
>there are also the DECmcc antagonists who see DECmcc as "proprietary" since
>it was not part of the OSF/DME selection and therefore they are pushing 
>other management solutions that *ARE* OSF/DME "compliant".  I keep fighting
>the battles and delivering the appropriate messages around our directions,
>but the DECmcc supporters are finally backed into a corner to the extent
>that they are asking "Where's the beef?"

>They want V1.2.  And they don't want to wait til October to get it.
>
>Please.  Someone tell me what I can do to help the customer, so that we 
>(Digital) can help ourselves.
>
>If any product management folks would like to discuss this off-line, 
>please feel free to call or send mail to the address below.
>
>Thanks
>
>Merlin Clayton
>DTN  445-7217
>(314)991-7217
>TRIGG::CLAYTON