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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

3293.0. "Unknown DNS error, when starting HISTORIAN background process" by FOUR62::LICAUSE (Al Licause (338-5661)) Thu Jul 02 1992 17:38

VMS V5.5, DECmcc T1.2.7 on a VAX 4000/500.

The procedure is run to setup the HISTORIAN background process and aborts
after a few seconds.  The log files shows "unknown DNS error" when attempting
to run the executable image.

Attempting to run the image by hand results in the same error.

I have tried this from both a privelaged account and the system account with
exactly the same result.

I am using the MIR and not DNS.

Any clues?

Al
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3293.1check MCC_DNS_SELECTION logicalTOOK::KWAKFri Jul 03 1992 02:257
    RE: .0
    
    Check if you're using MIR by issuing the following command:
       $ show log MCC_DNS_SELECTION
    
    If the logical is not defined, the default is DNS not MIR on a VMS
    system.
3293.2Definately MIR and not DNSFOUR62::LICAUSEAl Licause (338-5661)Mon Jul 06 1992 13:4511
Yes....the logical is defined to be MIR.

DNS was never installed on this system.

The problem also occurs in the software previously found in the SSB directory.

Perhaps I left out a step since I can't believe that I'm the only one to run
across this problem....any help greatly appreciated.

thanks,
Al
3293.3FOUR62::LICAUSEAl Licause (338-5661)Mon Jul 06 1992 19:2816
Stupid me.....talk about embarassing!

In an attempt to follow the format of the EXPORTER, I was assuming that P1
for the HIISTORIAN_BACKGROUND process was a filename.  Thanks to William
Kwak, I used the domain name for P1 and now have working Recording.

Al

Comments:

When establishing a recorded entity, I would think that there are only a limited

number of partitions available and these should be known to the system.

Why is it not possible to use MB2 on this field  to expand same and show the
possibilities or do most people simply wild card this?
3293.4VERNA::V_GILBERTMon Jul 06 1992 21:1914
Al,

The partition argument is not an enumeration, since for different entity classes
there are different partitions.

For V1.2, partition * on Historian directives is release noted as not working
properly, since when more is returned, we do not know if it is more due to time
or more due to data.  For V1.2, we assume more due to time, so the Show Recording
partition * displays each reply, one right after the other, the end result being
you only see the last one.  There are other possible problems with Partition *
and other Historian directives.  

Hope this helps,
Verna
3293.5FOUR62::LICAUSEAl Licause (338-5661)Tue Jul 07 1992 12:0725
Verna,

Thanks for the explaination......I guess I would buy your argument regarding
differences between entity types, but from a user perspective, it appears
rather clumsy.

One of the features of MCC is, or so I thought, the ability to manage many
different types of entites.  From the way that many of the screens respond
(i.e. different options shown for different entity types), there would appear
to be some intelligence about the entity type being requested.

If partition types are unique to or are contained in a given set for any
particulary entity, I would think that this should be a part of the intelligence
internal to MCC.

Don't mean to be arumentative, but this could be make the difference in a 
customers mind as to the ease of use of a particular feature.  If a customer
"perceives" that this functionality is contained to what ever extent in another
product and it is easier to use, (i.e. more intuitive) then we've lost points.

Hopefully we will be able to address all of these user interface issues in
later versions.

Thanks,
Al