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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

3180.0. "LANCE+ competitive help needed" by PLDMV1::GAUL () Fri Jun 12 1992 20:43

Can anyone help? I've got one customer who has signed the order for 
Lance+ (from LEXCEL a Micro Technology Company) on a Sun and another 
considering it. We are trying to pitch DECmcc and I could use some help. 

Note #2406 asked for similar help, but was unanswered.

The ad I found in Communications Week May 18, says:

- Manages devices from- "Cisco, ODS, Wellfleet, SynOptics, Cabletron, 
    Novell and others"
- "Correlate and isolate all alarms"
- "Provides the mapping, data base and reports
- "LANCE+ has an Event Management feature tha can correlate alarms, 
    trigger remedial applications and log a complete event record for future 
    analysis"

AND the quote I saw for it was cheap <$5K.

I'd like to talk to anyone with knowledge of the product.

Thanks
Bob Gaul
dtn-336-2143
609-273-2143
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3180.1LANCE is toughSKIBUM::GASSMANWed Jun 17 1992 12:1812
    LANCE+ is a very different beast than DECmcc - it looks nice, and is
    very 'system engineered' for the LAN/TCP-IP environment.  You might 
    have a chance with MSU, but LANCE seems to beat both MCC and MSU quite
    often if it's a customer most interested in LAN management - ie, no
    system management, no need for custom work.  Customers just seem to
    rave about it once they have it - so reference accounts is one the
    sales techniques you will come up against.  Fight back with references,
    tie MCC to the polycenter program and DME future etc - but if the
    customer is tatical not strategic in their thinking, you may be in for
    an uphill battle.
    
    bill
3180.2MSU should beat out LANCEPLDMV1::GAULWed Jun 17 1992 13:1114
    I received the following comments from Eric Sandovall in Albuquerque.
    He said in a TCP/IP-SNMP environment, that LANCE could be tough
    competition, but he felt confident that with MSU (NOT DECmcc V1.2) and 
    a couple near-term (~July-August) future features that we shouldn't lose. 
    
    Briefly, MSU should win on functionality, price, ease of use and 
    broader scope of management capabilities (e.g. DECnet, ELMS and 
    terminal servers.) MSU's ability to handle and work with private MIBs 
    and ability to launch applications excels.
    
    LANCE has some good graphics and decent out of the box functionality.
    
    Eric felt that DEC has done TCP/IP customers a disservice by only
    talking to them about DECmcc.