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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

2872.0. "Send in your Performance Issues" by MCC1::DITMARS (Pete) Tue Apr 28 1992 14:15

We have some time between now and when we freeze to go to SSB to examine and 
better understand the performance characteristics of the T1.2.7 kit, and 
possibly to address critical areas of performance.

I'm attempting to organize any performance related activities that will be
going on between now and the SSB submission.

What I'd like to hear from the general DECmcc internal field test community is:

	- areas of DECmcc performance that need investigation
	  preferably things that are very end-user visible
	  (i.e. potential big wins)

	- hints or ideas on what might be causing these performance problems,
	  (to help focus and guide our efforts)

You can send your comments to TOOK::DITMARS via mail, or post replies to this
note.

You don't have to scream and shout much.  Just a brief description and some
idea of how important you feel it is to you and/or real paying customers.

Thanks very much for your input.
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2872.1IMPM startup and look-intoICS::WOODCOCKThu Apr 30 1992 15:3425
>What I'd like to hear from the general DECmcc internal field test community is:

>	- areas of DECmcc performance that need investigation
>	  preferably things that are very end-user visible
>	  (i.e. potential big wins)

IMPM performance is questionable. This includes map startup and looking
into domains. At startup MCC IMPM consumes every available ounce of CPU.
This takes about 3 minutes for our stuff and the IMPM brings the CPU to 100%
for approximately this entire time. FWIW this is an 8810 *not* a workstation,
our test workstation can take several more minutes to come up.

Generally speaking, it takes too long to look into domains and entities 
(although for entities I don't know how much the network plays). But even for
local entities on the LAN it seems to take too long. Both of these problems 
are obviously quite visible to the customer.

>	- hints or ideas on what might be causing these performance problems,
>	  (to help focus and guide our efforts)

Sorry, none.

best regards,
brad...

2872.2More work on Memory ManagementCUJO::HILLDan Hill-Net.Mgt.-Customer ResidentFri May 01 1992 05:0125
    The decision to include global alarm rules has had the added value of
    reducing precious memory consumption (~120K bytes per alarm rule). 
    This is beside the fact that global alarms make managing the network
    much easier.
    
    In addition, there is less CPU overhead expended.  I must say, this was
    one of the SMARTEST moves you could have made.  I can now do with 15
    rules what had been taking me 150+ (and would have easily grown to
    800+ with enough CPU & memory to allow for the growth.)  OUTSTANDINGLY
    EXCELLENT JOB!!   Keep working to improve this capability.
    
    My suggestions for improved performance also lie in the area of reading
    in MAP files (e.g., looking into domains).  Perhaps some automatic
    means of keeping the map files contiguous on disk (or contiguous/best
    try), or making documented suggestions that all MCC files be on LOCAL
    disks as opposed to MSCP-served across the network.
    
    Anything that can improve DNS access would be a plus.
    
    Slow performance is my customer's biggest complaint with DECmcc.  V1.1
    with 40 alarms enabled (5 min poll) rendered one VAXstation 3100/38-SPX
    unusable.  V1.2 should prove much better, but still has a way to go.
    You're definitely headed in the right direction, though.
    
    8~)  -Dan
2872.3Slow IMPM on ULTRIXDOTTY::WITHERELLThu May 07 1992 19:1318
    I am running ULTRIX 4.2A on a DECstation 5000 model 240 with 24 MB
    memory and the performance of the IMPM is extremely slow. The customer
    is about fed up with the product because of this. Double clicking on a
    Phase V entity takes about  10 minutes. Other entities are not as slow
    but still take several minutes. I notice that the second time you open
    the same class of entity, performance is better but not really great.
    Listing and opening domains is slow as well. 
    
    I am not sure what is causing the problem. I have followed the
    configuration guidelines in the installation guide. I don't hear a lot
    of disk activity (indicating paging and swapping) when these operations
    are taking place.
    
    I really hope performance can be improved. I have been telling the
    customer that it's field test software and this problem will probably be
    fixed before it's released.
    
    Good luck.