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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

2851.0. "Problem deleting rules with T1.2.7" by SEVERN::BREWTON () Fri Apr 24 1992 18:13

    I'm having a problem deleting rules using the toolbox with DECMCC
    T1.2.7. Every time I try to delete a rule I get the following error
    message:
    
    Data base error while deleting rule information.
    
    MIR Status   %MCC-E-INSUFBUFFER, data not returned due to lack of
    		  return data buffer space.
    
    
    ANY Thoughts?
    
    Steve
    
    
    
    
    
    
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2851.1Sounds like a bugTOOK::MINTZErik Mintz, DECmcc Development, dtn 226-5033Fri Apr 24 1992 18:2511
It sounds like you have re-discovered a bug we thought we had fixed.
Can you supply some more details for a QAR, like:

Which operating system?
What kind of rules (expression, occurs, ...)?
About how many rules?

Thanks,

-- Erik

2851.2Does it work from FCL?TOOK::MINTZErik Mintz, DECmcc Development, dtn 226-5033Fri Apr 24 1992 18:514
Also, can you try to delete the same rules through the FCL, and let us know
if the results are any different?

-- Erik
2851.3SEVERN::BREWTONMon Apr 27 1992 19:2334
    Operating System  - VMS 5.5 SSB
    
    
    rule -
    
    
    create mcc 0 alarms rule TNSBUM_line_SVA-0_contention -
     expression        = -
    (change_of(NODE4 .DNA_NODE.TNSBUM line SVA-0 send failure,*, *), -
                            at every 01:00:00), -
     procedure         = mcc_common:mcc_alarms_mail_alarm.com, -
     exception handler = mcc_common:mcc_alarms_mail_exception.com, -
     category          = "Transmit problems", -
     description       = "If a line cannot send a packet after 16 attempts -
                          this counter will increase.  This is only true for -
                          ethernet lines and usually indicates that the -
                          channel is very heavily used.", -
     queue             = "SYS$BATCH:", -
     parameter         = "SEVERN::BREWTON", -
     perceived severity = minor, -
     in domain         = mcc.domain.tjr
      
    # of rules  15-20
    
    I also tried the FCL interface and got the same error.
    
    Steve
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
2851.4more dataSEVERN::BREWTONMon Apr 27 1992 19:3927
    I tried a wildcard delete of all my rules in a particular domain. Only
    the rules taht are returning errors were not deleted. It turns out that
    the rules I am having trouble with are illegal for the particular node.
    Listed below is the mail message I get back on one of these rules:
    
    
    Subj:   Notification of exception " MCC 0 ALARMS RULE
    DMS06_line_SYN-1_contention  27-APR-1992 15:33:06.99"
    
        Rule name:     MCC 0 ALARMS RULE DMS06_line_SYN-1_contention
        Domain:        Domain SEVERN_NS:.MCC.DOMAIN.LANDOVER
      Occurred at:     27-APR-1992 15:33:06.99
         Category:     Transmit problems
      Description:     If a line cannot send a packet after 16 attempts
              this counter will increase.  This is only true for
                       ethernet lines and usually indicates that the
           channel is very heavily used.
         Severity:     Indeterminate
    
       Expression:     (change_of(NODE4 .DNA_NODE.DMS06 line SYN-1 send
    failure,*, *),                         at every 01:00:00)
        Exception:     Rule could not be evaluated as the attribute was not
    returned
     by the Entity.
     
    Steve
    
2851.5QAR 2829TOOK::MINTZErik Mintz, DECmcc Development, dtn 226-5033Mon Apr 27 1992 19:421
QAR 2829
2851.6alarms having problems talking to other modulesTOOK::CALLANDERMCC = My Constant CompanionFri May 15 1992 14:299
    it looks like the rule is actually stuck in a bad state. It
    is having problems talking to the module it is using for
    getting the data (this is the transmit error); once this
    happens all bets are off. We have been looking at why the
    connections are lost and how to fix this problem but at this point
    in time we are not certain if we have completely fixed it.
    
    Thanks for the input.
    
2851.7Can't delete alarmsSALISH::SAFRAN_ROFri Jul 10 1992 19:4910
    The rules seem to get stuck because of the character count in the
    description field. What I have done is to extract (or save off
    somewhere in the first place) the distribution copies of the alarms
    mir files. The only way of deleting these alarms is to copy over the
    original files.
    
    There are several of the example alarms that have too many characters
    for their descriptions and cause this behavior.
    
    Bob