[Search for users] [Overall Top Noters] [List of all Conferences] [Download this site]

Conference azur::mcc

Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

2572.0. "BMS 1.2.15 install failure - Insufficient disk space" by TRADE::ASHRAF () Mon Mar 16 1992 18:57

    I am trying to install DECmcc BMS 1.2.15, but it is failing
    with "insufficient disk space" error.  The disk space 
    requirements from release notes and what's actually 
    available are as follows:
    
    				Required	Available
    System Disk			 25,000 	  55,000
    User Disk (SYS$USERSET)	 51,700		 328,000
    
    Still, the installation bombs out as follows:
    
    ======================
       Press RETURN to use the value shown or enter a new disk and
       directory specification.
    
    * Target directory for DECmcc Common files [SYS$COMMON:[MCC]]:
    SYS$USERSET:[MCC]
    
    %MCCBMSX-E-INSFDISK,    This kit requires at least 76700 blocks to
    instal.
    -MCCBMSX-E-INSFDISK,    With the AWD option, 22100 blocks are required,
    -MCCBMSX-E-INSFDISK,    and 76700 blocks are required on the AWD disk.
    
       *********************************************************
    
       Fatal DECmcc BMS X1.2.15 event occurred during installation
    
       *********************************************************
    
    %VMSINSTAL-E-INSFAIL, The installation of MCCBMSX V1.2 has failed.
    ============== 
    
    Is that a bug or something I am doing wrong?  I tried DEFINing 
    MCC_COMMON to be SYS$USERSET:[MCC], but that didn't help
    either.
    
    Muhammad
T.RTitleUserPersonal
Name
DateLines
2572.1Use the AWD optionTOOK::R_SPENCENets don't fail me now...Mon Mar 16 1992 21:0617
    Yes, the T1.2.4 release notes has bugs too. And, it wasn't updated
    for X1.2.15 and, if you note at the bottom of your note it says that
    using the AWD option (alternate working directory) you only need
    22100 blocks. If you don't use the AWD option you have to have room
    on the system disk for VMSINSTAL to restore the BACKUP Saveset to
    VMSINSTAL's working directory. The "D" saveset is 73000 blocks.
    
    As an example of how to do it I include a simple comfile I use to do my
    installs.
    
    $ define tmp user$nets:[scratch]
    $ define kit USER$KITS:[MCCKIT]
    $ @sys$update:vmsinstal mccbmsx012 kit: options awd=tmp:
    
    Hope this helps.
    
    s/rob
2572.2Still doesn't work for meLOWELL::ROSENWed Apr 15 1992 18:4610
    I did exactly what you mentioned in .1, but the installation still
    fails with "This installation requires at least 76700 block to
    install".  However, it doesn't give me the addition message to use
    the awd option.  I have 28000 blocks on my system disk and 130000
    on my scratch disk.  Is there a way to work around this problem?  Is
    there a kit that allows for installation not on the system disk?
    
    Thanks,
    
    Mike Rosen
2572.3The vms installation option AWDTOOK::L_GROSSMANWed Apr 15 1992 20:2812
Did you specify the awd kit installation option to point to a disk
that is NOT the same as the system disk?

Ex:

$ @sys$update:vmsinstal mccbms%%% <kit_location> options awd=ddcu:[000000]

where ddcu is some work disk that has at least 83000 blocks free.

Some old kits might also be checking for the wrong amount of disk space,
so just make sure the work disk has room for error.
2572.4I tried all thatLOWELL::ROSENWed Apr 15 1992 21:1021
    My system disk, dua0, has 28000 free blocks
    My scratch disk, dua2 has 130000 free blocks
    
    The exact command was:
    $ @sys$update:vmsinstall mccbmsx dua2:[decq.mcc] options -
      awd=dua2:[decq.scratch]
    
    (it was actually all on one line, but my stupid notes editor made me
    wrap it around)
    
    I orginally tried having the awd=dua2:[decq.mcc], but I thought there
    might be a problem with having the awd the same as the kit_location, so
    I tried a scratch directory.  I also tried dua2:[000000] and I also
    tried using a logical name to point to the awd.
    
    What I'd really like is to have mcc_common be on dua2, rather than my
    system disk.  Will/is this be supported in another kit?  Isn't a new
    one due out this week?  If not, then I'll have to figure out what the
    installation doesn't like about my system.
    
    Thanks
2572.5MCC_COMMON *can* be off sys$sysdevice:TOOK::MCPHERSONSave a tree: kill an ISO working group.Wed Apr 15 1992 21:579
>    What I'd really like is to have mcc_common be on dua2, rather than my
>    system disk.  Will/is this be supported in another kit?  Isn't a new

    You can have MCC_COMMON anywhere you want.   This has been supported
    since V1.1.

    ;doug


2572.6Not with X1.2.15 kitLOWELL::ROSENThu Apr 16 1992 13:587
    The problem isn't whether or not I'm supposed to be able to have
    MCC_COMMON anywhere I want.  The problem is that the kit for
    X1.2.15 fails when you try to do it.  So to rephrase my question,
    Is or will there be a kit after X1.2.15 that has this problem fixed?
    If not, is there a workaround?
    
    Thanks
2572.7Placement of MCC_COMMONTOOK::L_GROSSMANThu Apr 16 1992 18:0710
Yes, if you specify an AWD to point to some disk other than the system disk,
and the answer to the first question of where mcc_common should point,
the installation WILL check for the required amount of NON- mcc_common files
on the system disk (which I believe is not more than 21,000 blocks)

I do not remember if if X1.2.15 had bugs with checking disk space, but
an EFT update kit WILL be available REAL soon, so I recommend you try
to instal the new kit when it comes out.

2572.8Install T1.2.7TOOK::R_SPENCENets don't fail me now...Fri Apr 17 1992 14:348
    X1.2.15 did have problems calculating disk space.
    I think it really needed 30k on the system disk or something.
    
    As Larry suggests, skit trying to install X1.2.15 and see
    note 3.144 (actually look at notes 3.142 - 3.145) and install
    the T1.2.7 kit.
    
    s/rob