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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

2337.0. "DECmcc on FT-VAX" by MUDIS3::AMOUSSET () Thu Feb 13 1992 08:43

    Hello,
    
    is it possible to run DECmcc on a VAX FT 610 ?
    If not:
    is it possible in any way to include the FT VAX in the MCC environment
    (monitoring, etc.) ?
    I haven't found an answer in the SPD or in this conference.
    
    Regards,
    
    Andreas
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2337.1Why couldn't you?MAIL::HILDEBRANDThu Feb 13 1992 14:404
    A VAX is a VAX is a VAX including an FT VAX.  If DECmcc according to
    the SPD will run on any other VAXen, I don't see any reason why you
    couldn't use the FT to run DECmcc and the new VXT1200's as the X-window
    display device.
2337.2V1.1 on a 410FT wasn't so goodHAZARD::BAKERPaul Baker, UK Product and Technology Group - 844 3311Thu Feb 13 1992 15:3534
    
    Running V1.1 on a VAX 410FT produced some peculiar behaviour when
    managing bridges, concentrators and terminal servers from the IMPM.
    
    The main problem was that mcc seemed confused by the system apparently
    having four Ethernet interfaces, although of course only two would have
    been visible to mcc (and the fact that they were the new KFE  type I
    suspect didn't help too much).
    
    According to the docs, if there is a choice of ports, and one isn't
    selected by the "via port" qualifier, then mcc should round robin them
    all to find the entity. 
    
    Unfortunately this doesn't appear to work too well. Therefore the via
    port field in the IMPM has to be used all the time, which (when I tried
    it) has two problems. 
    
    One is well known in that, having set the port, it is used for all
    future operations. This has been known to confuse DECnet, etc. 
    
    Secondly, if a bridge is "looked into" (ie double click MB1), then the
    port selected at the higher level appears to be no longer applicable,
    and the via port option is greyed out for the current level and so the
    port can't be reselected. 
    
    This means that while a bridge can be selected and managed at the
    entity level, it is impossible to, for instance, look at any line
    counters.
    
    I have not had a chance to try T1.2.4 on the FT VAX, but would be
    interested to know if anyone else has seen the behaviour.
    
    Paul.
    
2337.3Need clarification.CHRISB::BRIENENDECmcc Bridge|Station|SNMP Management.Mon Feb 17 1992 18:3242
>    According to the docs, if there is a choice of ports, and one isn't
>    selected by the "via port" qualifier, then mcc should round robin them
>    all to find the entity. 

 The DECmcc Ethernet Access Exec common routines (mcc_ea*) round-robins
 the ports that it KNOWS ABOUT.  The list of "known devices" is hard-coded
 in the EA code (but can be overridden using a logical...).

 I don't think we knew about the KFE when we did V1.1 (what's the name of
 the driver that supports it, EZDRIVER?).


>    Unfortunately this doesn't appear to work too well. Therefore the via
>    port field in the IMPM has to be used all the time, which (when I tried
>    it) has two problems. 
>    
>    One is well known in that, having set the port, it is used for all
>    future operations. This has been known to confuse DECnet, etc. 

 How does defaulting VIA PORT confuse DECnet?  Doesn't the DECnet AM
 ignore the VIA PORT qualifier? (I don't have a copy of the DECnet IV
 MRM to check this).

>    Secondly, if a bridge is "looked into" (ie double click MB1), then the
>    port selected at the higher level appears to be no longer applicable,
>    and the via port option is greyed out for the current level and so the
>    port can't be reselected. 
>    
>    This means that while a bridge can be selected and managed at the
>    entity level, it is impossible to, for instance, look at any line
>    counters.

 If what you're saying is true (that the Iconic Map PM won't pass
 VIA PORT for Child Entities) you've found a pretty serious bug.
 (we'll check the latest X1.2 version and respond with what we
 find).

 Are you sure that the VIA PORT isn't getting passed for child
 entities (perhaps being cached by the Iconic Map?). Does BY PASSWORD
 exhibit the same problem for NODE4 and SNMP entities?

						Chris
2337.4Latest versions work...CHRISB::BRIENENDECmcc Bridge|Station|SNMP Management.Mon Feb 17 1992 19:3311
RE: VIA PORT for Child Entities.

 Linda Szabiet has verified (with base level X1.2.15) that:

 1. the VIA PORT qualifier value is indeed passed to Bridge child entities

    -- and --

 2. the VIA PORT value can be changed, even when looking at a Bridge
    Child Entity.