| Title: | DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT. |
| Notice: | Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187 |
| Moderator: | TAEC::BEROUD |
| Created: | Mon Aug 21 1989 |
| Last Modified: | Wed Jun 04 1997 |
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
| Number of topics: | 6497 |
| Total number of notes: | 27359 |
Hello,
First, let me say that I am a relativly recent newcommer to the Network
Management space... I realize that DECmcc has many excelent features;
especially the new version... However...
I was recently invited by one of my customers to see a "live" demo of SunNet
Manager managing their local/wide area network and I was totally blown away!
The two things that impressed me the most were
1) Sun's 3D realtime graphis
2) The ease with which SunNet was able to graph non-network, system
related things such as Paging activity rates, System memory
utilization etc of the various Sun workstations on the network.
To the best of my knowledge this is still very much of a "future"
for our products.
I noticed one comment in this notes file (#1238 "SunNet Manager What's all the
fuss about") in which the writer found Sun's 3D graphis confusing. I would
like to say that I did not find this to be the case at all. I found the
3D graphs did a very good job of representing multiple data sources in real
time. Addmittedly, I have not seen the realtime graphing capabilities in
DECmcc V1.2 so, I have nothing to contrast Sun's to however, I'm certainly
hoping the capabilites are similiar (however, I fear we have nothing to
compare with the system monitoring features).
Note: I have searched this conference for information on V1.2's realtime
graphing features and have not really found much. If someone would please
point me to a document (ideally with some example graphs) that would explain
the new features I would really appreciate it.
Regards,
Peter Lamb
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| 1981.1 | try v1.2 | TOOK::MATTHEWS | Tue Dec 24 1991 11:00 | 10 | |
Peter, we may not have 3D graphs yet, but get a demo of V1.2. Don't
look at a particular area, look at the breadth of the product. Look
at the notification services, domains, alarms, snmp am, iconic map
intersection. I think you will see that DECmcc has a lot of depth
vs SUNnet Mgr's sizzle.
The big issue for DEC is how to train the field so that they can
effectively sell DECmcc.
wally
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| 1981.2 | What about distributed systems management... | MUTTON::LAMB | Peter Lamb - GSG Santa Clara | Sat Dec 28 1991 18:58 | 8 |
Speaking of breadth... did you notice my comments on how SUN net can easily display system performance & management information?? I believe they do this with SUN's RPC am I correct in believing that this capability is a long way off for DECmcc?? Regards, peter | |||||
| 1981.3 | Better OS support is the problem | ENUF::GASSMAN | Mon Dec 30 1991 13:09 | 13 | |
SUN (and HP for that matter) have built better agents for their
operating systems - and display that data with their managers. Yes, I
think SUN uses a proprietary protocol (RPC) to get their data, however
with their new release they ship a SNMP agent with the sunnetmanager
so maybe they do it in their agent now. Digital's response to this
will be the common agent, running on OSF/1 and VMS about the middle
of 1992. Note that if the SUN box does use SNMP, there is no reason
why MCC couldn't get at the same data. BTW, I agree with your comments
on the 3D graphs. Especially with multiple system memory/cpu usage,
the 3D presentation comes across with easy to understand information.
bill
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