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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

1788.0. "Mgmt. of applications" by BERN01::GMUER () Mon Nov 11 1991 07:02

Hallo together

I am the technical responsible for the Swiss PTT project for managing all 
the data networks (X.25, X.400, Videotex). This project is now in the
architecture phase where the Swiss PTT has choosen EMA as the network
management architecture.

One subtask in this architecture is the definition of the management of
the applications and the data bases. Swiss PTT here also sees EMA and
DECmcc as the solution. To avoid any reinventing of the wheel I like to
post the following questions:

- Is there any experience with application or DB management with DECmcc ?

- We have defined the following topics in application management, accor-
  ding to the OSI functions and importance for the customer:

   - SW configuration and SW distribution
   - Fault management and event logging
   - Security management (user profiles and user access)
   - Accounting for the applications usage
   - Performance control

  Any ideas ?
  Are there non-EMA solutions ?

- Are there any standards in this field, posted or in work ?


Any help is welcome !!

Edgar Gmuer 
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1788.1SWISS PTTULYSSE::LEFOLLaurent LEFOL @VBO ULYSSE::LEFOL 828-5008 EIC-ValbonneWed Nov 27 1991 10:2662
1788.2You're question is awfully bigBLUMON::SYLORArchitect = Buzzword GeneratorWed Nov 27 1991 18:2112
In .0, you asked about management of applications (which is different from
management applications). Applications which have to be managed should just
be EMA entities, like anything else that has to be managed.

You also reference the 5 functional areas of management - there's lots
of work underway in those areas. I'm sure you've found the EMA Public directory
at
	FILES::EMA$:[Public]

There's general EMA specs and such there...

Mark
1788.3Use DMS Baselevel 2FRAMBO::MUELLERThu Nov 28 1991 08:0628
Edgar,

it seems that Management of applications will be able with DECmcc using DNA 
CMIP and the Base Level Kit of the DMS/Common Agent. I'm just on my way to 
implement a prototype of a DECvoice Management Agent and it works fine.

As mentioned in the earlier replies, the aspects of management are currently
under work. If you want to use DECmcc (I think you should) as director and
you don't want to spend too much work with the aspects (that means writing
your own Function Modules) you should go to get the future plans of DECmcc
and wait for their implementation.

I can recomment the DMS Baselevel Kit. It's easy to use and I just needed 
two one and a half day for getting my first responses from DECvoice (In fact
most of the time was spend for getting used with DECvoice).

There is a notes conference at PV1201 called DMS-IFT. Perhabs it will be usefull
to put an entry there.

Another usefull tool for managing an application is the DATA COLLECTOR AM and
the DATA COLLECTOR API (on the Agent's side).. You will be able to send your
own events to DECmcc using just simple calls. I've tried it too and it works
fine (In fact I haven't seen my events because my sink is over in the states,
but my "host" told me it works. Thanks Jean).

Questions are welcome.

ChriS
1788.4RIVAGE::SILVACarl Silva - Telecom Eng - DTN 828-5339Thu Nov 28 1991 08:507
	RE: .1,

	The PNMP platform has its own trouble ticketing and alarm
reporting/collection system for fault management.  For more information, the
PNMP notes file is TAEC::PNMP.

	Carl
1788.5A little clarification on PNMP trouble ticketingRIVAGE::SILVACarl Silva - Telecom Eng - DTN 828-5339Thu Nov 28 1991 08:5621
	RE: .1,

>Fault management : 
>
>Did you consider either CHOPS or CHOX. We are currently 
>discussing with Telecom Engineering to see how to cooperate to port CHOPS to 
>DECmcc and PNMP.

	The PNMP platform has its own trouble ticketing and alarm
reporting/collection system for fault management.  For more information, the
PNMP notes file is TAEC::PNMP.  This functionality will be available in the
first version of PNMP by next spring/summer.  The product manager is Claude
Hary (@VBE or TAEC::) and the engineering manager is Marc Flauw (TAEC::).

	There have been discussions around whether CHOX could be used by the
TNMP program but there remains to be discussion about if/when/how CHOX could
be integrated technically with the PNMP product.  This may or may not be done
at some time in the future.  For more info on what is part of the TNMP, 
contact Vincent Jullien (TNMP Program Manager) at VBE or TAEC::.

	Carl