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Conference azur::mcc

Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

1645.0. "MCC ELM AM would not register a DECconcentrator 500" by SAAR::B_GOODWIN (Time is an illusion...) Mon Oct 14 1991 11:48

I recently installed the ELM AM and everything worked fine until I went to register
a DECconcentrator 500. I got a "no such entity error". I beleive that was the error 
message, I was able to correct the problem, so I'm recalling the error message from
memory. After spending a couple of hours on the problem, I finally figured out that
MCC_DNS_SETUP did not create the .mcc_concentrator_backtranslation directory, I created
the directory and and was able to register the concentrator. I just took a guess at
then name of the directory and was right. 

Is this a know problem? Is this documented anywhere? I looked through the notesfile
for the last couple of months and could not find any thing about it.

Brad Goodwin
CSC/CS Network Support
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1645.1SAAR::B_GOODWINTime is an illusion...Tue Oct 15 1991 13:116
Ok, I'm guilty. I did find in the MCC ELM release notes that you have to create 
the DNS directories for the concentrator. My question is, why not set them up in
the installation of ELM or, at least ask if they should be set up. I have also 
learned that there are other modules for MCC that don't set up the directories for
DNS, I beleive this should be part of the installation.
1645.2No substitute for RTFM ;^)TOOK::MCPHERSONi'm only 5 foot one...Tue Oct 15 1991 16:4721
>the DNS directories for the concentrator. My question is, why not set them up in
>the installation of ELM or, at least ask if they should be set up. I have also 
>learned that there are other modules for MCC that don't set up the directories for
>DNS, I beleive this should be part of the installation.

    This has been asked before, and I'm about to give the same answer as
    before:  The backtranslation directories must be created ON THE DNS
    SERVER (using the DNS$CONTROL.EXE utility).  We can't assume that the
    DNS server will be running on the management stations (in large
    networks, esp. with multiple DECmcc Directors, it's probably a good
    idea to *not* have the DNS server on the management system).  

    Sooooo... we rely on telling the people to do this in the documentation
    (and even sometimes as a *beeping* message in an installation script)
    and providing DCL scripts that they can copy over to the DNS server and
    execute, if they don't wnat to get into the DNS$CONTROL utility
    directly.

 regards, 
/doug
1645.3SAAR::B_GOODWINTime is an illusion...Tue Oct 15 1991 18:1113
>    The backtranslation directories must be created ON THE DNS
>    SERVER (using the DNS$CONTROL.EXE utility).  We can't assume that the
>    DNS server will be running on the management stations (in large
>    networks, esp. with multiple DECmcc Directors, it's probably a good
>   idea to *not* have the DNS server on the management system).  

Ok, I can go along with that explanation. But, as you said, how about notifing 
during the installation that it has to be done or making it optional during 
installation.


Thanks for the answers,
Brad
1645.4Fair enough.TOOK::MCPHERSONi'm only 5 foot one...Tue Oct 15 1991 18:587
>Ok, I can go along with that explanation. But, as you said, how about notifing 
>during the installation that it has to be done or making it optional during 
>installation.

Ok.  Those groups developing AMs (that need bactranslation areas), consider
yourself notified:  Add a friendly reminder in your KITINSTAL.COM.
/doug