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Conference azur::mcc

Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

1404.0. "Accessing DECmcc via PC using Pathworks with PCDECwindow V3.0" by VIDOAN::DOAN (EIS/Network Consulting Group of the 90's) Tue Aug 27 1991 17:14

 Hi,

	I have the following question regarding using a pc ( and laptop PC) to 
	access DECmcc ( both Iconic and FCL interface ):

	1) Does MCC support this configuration ?

	2) If the answer is Yes, then how can one configure the PC to get this
	   working ?

	3) What is the verion(s) of PCDECwindow can be used to run it.

	
	4) How much is the minimum memory is required on the PC. ?

	
	5) What about using the laptop pc via dialing via 9600 bpi line ? 

	
	I have read notes 150,548,658,676, and 829 but still can't really get
        the answers for these questions. Thanks for any up to date information.


Thien Doan
Network Consulting Group
PS: The goal is to  allow the network manager to access DECmcc via laptop PC
    while he is on the road using a dial-up line. Thanks again
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1404.1fcl was more the goalTOOK::CALLANDERJill Callander DTN 226-5316Wed Sep 04 1991 12:1612
IU know it would be nice to use the PC to get to the windows interface,
but use of the FCL for remote access was more the goal in V1.1. We
simply did not have the resources to try all potential configurations.
What I would suggest is for remote access use the FCL forms mode (this
gives you recall, scrollability, print and save functions, as well as
context sensitive help). Then when you have the time, try loading in
the PCdecwindows and give MCC a try.

I will also forward your note to an ex-mcc person over in the pc world and
see if he knows of anyone who has tried it.

Let us know if you get it to work, and how.
1404.2LAPTOP access -> FCL (easy)TOOK::MCPHERSONi'm only 5 foot one...Wed Sep 04 1991 13:1230
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>	5) What about using the laptop pc via dialing via 9600 bpi line ? 
>

FCL is a no-brainer. Just get a decent terminal emulator for the laptop. 
(There are scads of them out there...)   The FCL forms mode is a pretty good
compromise between 'hard-core-cli-stuff' and 'pointy-clicky-menu-stuff' in
terms of "ease of use" for the uninitiated.  However, I find that after a
while, the FORMS stuff can sorta get in the way, *once* you know what you need
to do  (It's *great* when you're using some new xM and fumbling around with
syntax.)   I would hope that whomever is being called uopn to dial into a
DECmcc management system would *already* have a good idea of what they needed
to do anyway...

I don't see how you'll *ever* get the Iconic Map PM to work with a remote
laptop PC running PC DECwindows UNLESS:

        a) you're running async DECnet (ugh) on the laptop to handle the
           DECwindows transport... 
        b) you're running SLIP on the PC and the DECmcc system to handle the
           DECwindows transport... 
        c) you've got a really high-speed modem on the laptop (ABSOLUTE min. of 9600
           bps) for either option A or B 
        d) you've got a really *hot* laptop (386/33 minimum) with mucho memory,
           hard disk and a crisp VGA display w/enuf resolution for
           PC DECwindows  (don't know what that is...)
        e) or you've got a *lot* of patience, using *any* of the above
           options...  %^)

 /doug
1404.3dont give up -- this can save us M$'s in service delivery costsCLARID::PATELWe'll get it right on the nightWed Sep 04 1991 16:1015
    Placing the brain in blabber mode ....

    use Internet PPP to connect from the PC to the MCC system.  A procedure
    pulls all the relevant files across pertaining to topology icons etc...

    then we run a proprietary protocol over PPP to talk to a server on MCC
    that provides IPC (inter process communication) to the Iconic MAPS PM
    or the big K (kernel), so you can do the clik-pop-up jazz on the PC 
    and have the interface data over the "so called" slow link and
    all the heavy windows manipulation is done in the PC 

    -- sound interesting ?

    Amrit (really serious about this stuff)

1404.4NeatO!TOOK::MCPHERSONi'm only 5 foot one...Wed Sep 04 1991 16:1812
re -.1

    Way cool!   

    This sounds really neat!  Where is there some more info on
    <what|how> you're doing w/the iconic map data?  I'm sure some other
    people would like to hear more...

    I suppose I should have put more hope into the remote pointy-clicky
    stuff... Guess I'm getting a litte jaded. ;^)

/doug