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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

1384.0. "Problems with recorded data" by BERN01::GMUER () Fri Aug 23 1991 13:44

Hi,

I have problems to understand the definition of "scope of interested time"
to get historical data from the MIR. I have looked through the documentation
and did not found any examples.

I have made different experiments and often I get no data or something what
I did not expected.

An example: I have started the following comand procedure:

  SHOW MCC 0 ALL CHARA
  SHOW RECORDING NODE4 BEACT1 -
     PARTITION     = COUNTERS, -
     IN DOMAIN     = .BERN
  SHOW NODE4 BEACT1 USER BYTES RECEIVED, -
    FOR START (23-AUG-1991:16:00:00) - 
      UNTIL 23-AUG-1991:16:06:00 EVERY 00:02:00 DURATION 00:01:50, -
    IN DOMAIN      = .BERN
  EXIT

and here is the result with strange time stamps:

------------------- begin of log ----------------------------------

  SHOW MCC 0 ALL CHARA

MCC 0 
AT 23-AUG-1991 16:36:29 Characteristics

Examination of Attributes Shows:
                      Component Version = V1.1.0
               Component Identification = "DECmcc"

  SHOW RECORDING NODE4 BEACT1 -
     PARTITION     = COUNTERS, -
     IN DOMAIN     = .BERN

Node4 BEACT1 
AT 23-AUG-1991 16:36:30 

Recording parameters for the partition "Counters" :
                        Recording state = SUSPENDED,
                            State since = 23-AUG-1991 16:04:01.31,
                         Polling period = 0 00:02:00.00,
                             Begin time = 23-AUG-1991 16:00:00.90,
                               End time = 23-AUG-1991 16:06:00.93,
                               Keep age = 60 00:00:00.00,
                           Request time = 23-AUG-1991 15:57:17.00,
                           Requested by = "DEMO",
           Time of last successful poll = "23-AUG-1991 16:06:00.96",
             Number of successful polls = 4,
               Time of last failed poll = "NONE",
               Last poll failure reason = "N/A",
                 Number of failed polls = 0,
        Last historical expiration time = "23-AUG-1991 16:06:00.96",
        Time of last expiration failure = "NONE",
         Last expiration failure reason = "N/A",
          Number of expiration failures = 0

  SHOW NODE4 BEACT1 USER BYTES RECEIVED, -
    FOR START (23-AUG-1991:16:00:00) - 
      UNTIL 23-AUG-1991:16:06:00 EVERY 00:02:00 DURATION 00:01:50, -
    IN DOMAIN      = .BERN

Node4 BEACT1 
AT 23-AUG-1991 15:50:01 Counters

                    User Bytes Received = 1717179 Bytes

Node4 BEACT1 
AT 23-AUG-1991 16:00:00 Counters

                    User Bytes Received = 1765791 Bytes

Node4 BEACT1 
AT 23-AUG-1991 16:02:00 Counters

                    User Bytes Received = 1766048 Bytes

Node4 BEACT1 
AT 23-AUG-1991 16:00:00 Counters

                    User Bytes Received = 1765791 Bytes

Node4 BEACT1 
AT 23-AUG-1991 16:02:00 Counters

                    User Bytes Received = 1766048 Bytes

Node4 BEACT1 
AT 23-AUG-1991 16:04:00 Counters

                    User Bytes Received = 1771130 Bytes

Node4 BEACT1 
AT 23-AUG-1991 16:02:00 Counters

                    User Bytes Received = 1766048 Bytes

Node4 BEACT1 
AT 23-AUG-1991 16:04:00 Counters

                    User Bytes Received = 1771130 Bytes

Node4 BEACT1 
AT 23-AUG-1991 16:06:00 Counters

                    User Bytes Received = 1771399 Bytes

--------------------- end of log ----------------------------------

Thanks for help,

Edgar
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1384.1No problem - is expectedTOOK::T_HUPPERThe rest, as they say, is history.Mon Aug 26 1991 20:12111
    RE: .0

    For the command:

>  SHOW NODE4 BEACT1 USER BYTES RECEIVED, -
>    FOR START (23-AUG-1991:16:00:00) - 
>      UNTIL 23-AUG-1991:16:06:00 EVERY 00:02:00 DURATION 00:01:50, -
>    IN DOMAIN      = .BERN

    you are actually getting the expected results.  The command breaks down
    as follows for the scope of interest time ranges:

    1st time range:  16:00:00 to 16:01:50
    2nd time range:  16:02:00 to 16:03:50
    3rd time range:  16:04:00 to 16:05:50

    There is no 4th time range, as the UNTIL time is the same as the
    beginning time of the "next" time range.

    For EACH of these 3 time ranges, you get back the datum (if any) BEFORE
    the time range, data (if any) included IN the time range, and the datum
    (if any) AFTER the time range.  So your log is showing that this is
    indeed the case, as follows:

---------------------------- edited log -----------------------------------
    
1st time range, 16:00:00 to 16:01:50 (datum before time range):

> Node4 BEACT1 
> AT 23-AUG-1991 15:50:01 Counters
>
>                    User Bytes Received = 1717179 Bytes

1st time range, 16:00:00 to 16:01:50 (data included in time range):

>Node4 BEACT1 
>AT 23-AUG-1991 16:00:00 Counters
>
>                    User Bytes Received = 1765791 Bytes

1st time range, 16:00:00 to 16:01:50 (datum after time range):

>Node4 BEACT1 
>AT 23-AUG-1991 16:02:00 Counters
>
>                    User Bytes Received = 1766048 Bytes

2nd time range, 16:02:00 to 16:03:50 (datum before time range):

>Node4 BEACT1 
>AT 23-AUG-1991 16:00:00 Counters
>
>                    User Bytes Received = 1765791 Bytes

2nd time range, 16:02:00 to 16:03:50 (data included in time range):

>Node4 BEACT1 
>AT 23-AUG-1991 16:02:00 Counters
>
>                    User Bytes Received = 1766048 Bytes

2nd time range, 16:02:00 to 16:03:50 (datum after time range):

>Node4 BEACT1 
>AT 23-AUG-1991 16:04:00 Counters
>
>                    User Bytes Received = 1771130 Bytes

3rd time range, 16:04:00 to 16:05:50 (datum before time range):

>Node4 BEACT1 
>AT 23-AUG-1991 16:02:00 Counters
>
>                    User Bytes Received = 1766048 Bytes

3rd time range, 16:04:00 to 16:05:50 (data included in time range):

>Node4 BEACT1 
>AT 23-AUG-1991 16:04:00 Counters
>
>                    User Bytes Received = 1771130 Bytes

3rd time range, 16:04:00 to 16:05:50 (datum after time range):

>Node4 BEACT1 
>AT 23-AUG-1991 16:06:00 Counters
>
>                    User Bytes Received = 1771399 Bytes

-------------------------- end edited log ---------------------------------
    
    Modifying the SHOW command may give more useable results.  Given that
    the data must be included in the time range defined by the original
    START and UNTIL parameters of the RECORD operation, a simpler SHOW
    command that would display each datum only once would be:

  SHOW NODE4 BEACT1 USER BYTES RECEIVED, -
    FOR START (23-AUG-1991:16:00:00) DURATION 00:06:00, -
    IN DOMAIN      = .BERN

    This command will result in all the data being displayed in order and
    only once.  Note that this relationship between the recording and the
    displaying (the RECORD contains an EVERY component (polling interval)
    and an UNTIL component (possibly NULL = infinity), while the SHOW
    covers, in a single time range (START and DURATION components only),
    the entire scope of interest time) is probably the easiest to deal
    with.  As seen above, putting an EVERY component in the SHOW request
    can be confusing.

    Ted
    
1384.2Should be added to DECmcc Dok ?BERN01::GMUERWed Aug 28 1991 10:2511
Re. 1:  Thanks for your explanation !

I would like to suggest that this should be added in the DECmcc documentation.
In the DECmcc BMS Use manual page 3-2 there is a pointer to the Director Use
concerning the past time specification with the SHOW directive. But in the 
Director Use manual you find only on page 4-21 a pointer to the BMS Use.

Sorry, if I have overlooked something. 

Edgar
1384.3Take care on entity name's case sensivityBERN01::GMUERWed Aug 28 1991 10:2874
I have found a further feature of the DECmcc Historian FM, which caused some
troubles to a customer and me. The behaviour of the SHOW SNMP directive with
a past time specification is case sensitive to the global entity name.
The same with the SHOW RECORDING directive.

Edgar

------------------------- begin of log -----------------------------

$ UCX SHOW HOST BEUNIX
 
Host address    Host name
 
16.184.208.11   BEUNIX, beunix


$ MANA/ENTER
DECmcc (V1.1.0)


   SHOW RECORDING SNMP beunix INTERFACE 1 PART=COUNTERS, IN DOMAIN SUISSE

SNMP beunix Interface 1 
AT 28-AUG-1991 10:08:48 

No recording for the specified entity and partition

   SHOW RECORDING SNMP BEUNIX INTERFACE 1 PART=COUNTERS, IN DOMAIN SUISSE

SNMP BEUNIX Interface 1 
AT 28-AUG-1991 10:08:50 

Recording parameters for the partition "Counters" :
                        Recording state = ACTIVE,
                            State since = 28-AUG-1991 09:26:53.14,
                         Polling period = 0 00:20:00.00,
                             Begin time = 28-AUG-1991 09:40:00.19,
                               End time = 28-AUG-1991 12:40:00.22,
                               Keep age = 180 00:00:00.00,
                           Request time = 28-AUG-1991 09:26:40.66,
                           Requested by = "DEMO",
           Time of last successful poll = "28-AUG-1991 10:00:00.20",
             Number of successful polls = 2,
               Time of last failed poll = "NONE",
               Last poll failure reason = "N/A",
                 Number of failed polls = 0,
        Last historical expiration time = "28-AUG-1991 10:00:00.20",
        Time of last expiration failure = "NONE",
         Last expiration failure reason = "N/A",
          Number of expiration failures = 0

   SHOW SNMP beunix INTERFACE 1 IFINOCTETS, FOR START (09:50:00), -
     IN DOMAIN SUISSE

SNMP beunix Interface 1 
AT 28-AUG-1991 10:08:54 Counters

                             ifInOctets = 360768803

   SHOW SNMP BEUNIX INTERFACE 1 IFINOCTETS, FOR START (09:50:00), -
     IN DOMAIN SUISSE

SNMP BEUNIX Interface 1 
AT 28-AUG-1991 09:40:00 Counters

                             ifInOctets = 359565233

SNMP BEUNIX Interface 1 
AT 28-AUG-1991 10:00:00 Counters

                             ifInOctets = 360296816

--------------------------- end of log -----------------------------
1384.4input has been passed along to the documentation teamTOOK::CALLANDERJill Callander DTN 226-5316Tue Sep 03 1991 19:051
thanks for the feedback