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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

995.0. "End-Station AM, 802.2 test problems" by SUBWAY::REILLY (Mike Reilly - New York Bank District) Wed May 08 1991 16:14

    I've encountered the following two problems with the End-Station AM.
    
    1.	When an 802.2 TEST packet is sent to a Macintosh, the Mac responds but
    the AM still states the node is unreachable.  
    
    Command used:
    
    	MCC>test station aa-00-04-00-00-06-25 fun sup ieee802_only
                  
    
    	STATION AA-00-04-00-06-25
    	AT  3-MAY-1991 12:24:20
    
   	Cannot communicate with target
    
    
    An Ethernet trace shows an 802.2 LLC frame with the following data
    being sent from the AM to the Mac.
    
    Destination Address
     Source Address
      Length			= X23		35 bytes
       DSAP			= X00           Individual DSAP 00
        SSAP			= X02           Command SSAP 02
    	 Control		= XE3		TEST function code
          Data			= All Nulls
    	   Padding
    
    The MAC responds:
    
    
    Destination Address
     Source Address
      Length			= X03		3 bytes
       DSAP			= X02           Individual DSAP 02
        SSAP			= X01           Response SSAP 00
    	 Control		= XE3		TEST function code
          Data			= no Data as Length is only 3 octets
    	   Padding
    
    The response from the Mac appears to be a valid response to a TEST,
    but it's data field has no data.  I have not seen any information
    that states that a TEST response must have a data field the same
    length at the frame which initiated the TEST.
    
    
    2. Second problem.
    
    Over the weekend our cluster was upgraded to VMS 5.4-2.  This
    upgrade appeared to have solved problem 1 above and many other 802.2
    related problems, as all devices which previously didn't respond to
    end station TEST directives now worked.  After a few minutes I
    realized that ALL devices which FAIL the end station 802.2 test are
    now begin reported as PASSING the test.
    
    eg:
    
        MCC> test station 12-34-56-78-90-12 fun sup ieee802_only
    
    	STATION 12-34-56-78-90-12
   	AT  8-MAY-1991 13:02:54
    
   	Test successful.
    	MCC>
    
    
    I would appreciate if some other user of VMS 5.4-2 try the above
    test and see if it passes for you.  The example below is copy of one
    of the 'new' end station I now have registered:
    
    MCC> register station .station.dummy fun sup ieee802_only
    ADDRESS = 12-34-56-78-90-99
    
    STATION JPM_DEV:.station.dummy
    AT  8-MAY-1991 13:07:51
    
    Registration successful.
    MCC> show station .station.dummy all attributes
    
    STATION JPM_DEV:.station.dummy
    AT  8-MAY-1991 13:08:48 All Attributes                       
    
                                    Address = 12-34-56-78-90-99
                                       Name = JPM_DEV:.station.dummy
                         Responding Address = 12-34-56-78-90-99
                        Functions Supported = IEEE802_Only
                        Implementation Desc = ""
                                   Location = ""
                               MAIL Account = ""
                               Phone Number = ""
                                    Remarks = ""
                         Responsible Person = ""
                                  Text File = ""
    MCC>
    
     
    Where did the responding address field come from ?
    
    - Mike
    
    
    
    
    
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995.1ALLZS::MORRISONThe world is a networkThu May 09 1991 18:4726
> I've encountered the following two problems with the End-Station AM.
>
>    1.  When an 802.2 TEST packet is sent to a Macintosh, the Mac responds but
>    the AM still states the node is unreachable.

Since we don't have a Macintosh around here, this one's going to be
difficult to test.  We'll see if we can check this one out via code inspection
and the information you've provided.

> 2. Second problem.
>
>    Over the weekend our cluster was upgraded to VMS 5.4-2.  This
>    upgrade appeared to have solved problem 1 above and many other 802.2
>    related problems, as all devices which previously didn't respond to
>    end station TEST directives now worked.  After a few minutes I
>    realized that ALL devices which FAIL the end station 802.2 test are
>    now begin reported as PASSING the test.

We've been unable to reproduce this problem with a cluster running VMS V5.4-2
and DECmcc V1.1.0 (which I assume is the version you're running?).  This
all works as expected.  Can you tell us more about your environment? 
Perhaps we can figure out what's going on with a bit more information about
your system type, ethernet device, DECmcc version, network environment,
etc.

						Wayne
995.2Configuration InformationSUBWAY::REILLYMike Reilly - New York Bank DistrictFri May 10 1991 15:0920
    The system I'm using is a VAXstation 3100 M38 which is part of a
    LAVC.  Using DECmcc 1.1.  
    
    An $ANAL/IMAGE of mcc_enet_am.exe shows:
    
           Image Identification Information
    
                    image name: "MCC_ENET_AM"
                    image file identification: "DECMCC V1.1"
                    link date/time: 24-FEB-1991 16:37:28.66
                    linker identification: "05-05"
    
    This system is running UCX, DNS client, RDB, DFS  and the LAST
    drivers for access to an Infoserver 100.   
    
    Network environment is a large multi-vendor E-LAN with approx 2,000
    devices.
    
    
    - Mike
995.3ALLZS::MORRISONThe world is a networkFri May 10 1991 17:176
RE:  .-1  You just described the environment that I used to attempt to
	  reproduce your problem.  If nobody else has seen this (and I
	  haven't heard anyone else say so), then why don't we try to
	  resolve this off line via email and/or telephone.

						Wayne