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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

796.0. "ICMP or PING AM available ???" by STRASB::MOSER (Jean-Marc MOSER -- Strasbourg @ZTO) Thu Mar 14 1991 14:58

Hello happy experienced Network Managers...

We are involved in a Test platteform at Automobiles Peugeot.
The test configuration is based on the product DECmcc VMS V1.1.

Peugeot people are interested in the MAP with COLOR changing with
the availability of the nodes polled.
The Peugeot Network on the test site is the following
	50 DECnet nodes
	50 UNIX nodes understanding SNMP
	200 UNIX nodes understanding only PING (ICMP)
	(no other mechanism like XID, ETHERNET loop, 802.3-REQ etc)


I think we will experience a lot of difficulties to manage the 200 nodes
unsing ping mechanism...

Is an ICMP Access Module for VMS available or under developpement ??
Is it possible to know if somebody write this kind of AM for a project ??
Is there another solution ??

Many thanks for your answers and your help to my very naive questions...
Best regards
					      Jean-Marc MOSER
					DECmail= @ZTO  JEAN-MARC MOSER
				  	VAXmail= STRASB::MOSER(47.152)
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796.1DECmcc TCP/IP DA FM?CHRISB::BRIENENDECmcc Bridge|Station|SNMP Management.Thu Mar 14 1991 15:5413
You might want to check into the DECmcc TCP/IP Diagnostic Assistant FM.

One sentence taken from the Phase 0 doc: "The goal of this project is to
be able to diagnose the major problems that a user encounters when using
a host in a TCP/IP internetwork." (there's lots of stuff mentioned that
has nothing to do with SNMP).

Contact the Product Manager, Junell Silver (DELNI::J_SILVER), for a copy
of the Phase 0 Requirements document. She can probaby point you at other
specs related to it.

						Chris

796.2Roll your ownWELCLU::MCCALLUMFri Mar 15 1991 15:1113
    
    If you want to monitor the status in the short term then I think you'll
    have to write your own access module. The other alternatives are a
    different tool (MSU or NETsystem (ENOP)) which can do it.
    
    Doing your own access module can be quick if the entity model is very
    simple (which it can be just for status).  Christophe Hagenmuller has
    written a simple AM which works via a proprietary TCP/IP protocol. It
    could be modified to do a ping.
    
    
    Dave.
    
796.3another possible solutionTOOK::MATTHEWSFri Mar 22 1991 14:345
    Also contact Karl Mollander (NWACES::MOLLANDER). He has DECmcc AM
    developers available for contract work. I think it would be a simple
    effort for his people to put together the Ping AM.
    
    wally
796.4PING AM soon available TLSE01::HAGENMULLERTue Mar 26 1991 12:029
    
    The person from STERIA ( a french third party company ) who worked 
    with us to write the UB AM will modify this AM to developp the "PING AM" .
    We will provide her with a piece of sotfware for implementing the ping 
    icmp function under VMS/UCX1.3 .
    This AM should be available before mid april ( according to Jean Marc ).
                                                                           
    Christophe .
    
796.5Ping AM pings !CCIIS1::ROGGEBANDThu Apr 11 1991 15:2814
    Re : . -1
    
    Well, we've done it, the Ping AM was developped in 5 days by a
    contractor from Steria. She used the design framework (neat tool that!)
    It provides a status attribute "Vivant" or "Mort" (Dead or Alive) for
    objects responding to ICMP echo requests.
    
    It will be installed at Peugeot Automobiles in the very near future for
    extensive testing. For availability aspects, contact Jean-Marc Moser
    (STRASB::MOSER).
    
    Amicalement,
    
    Philippe.
796.6PING AM works nicelyCUJO::HILLSat Apr 27 1991 02:2812
    I have just enrolled and tested the PING AM.  Mon Dieu!  It works
    beautifully.  Now I can register SUN nodes which do not understand
    other protocols or are lacking SNMP agents (see note 694.7)
    
    Philippe, you did a nice job of coding.  I am interested in how ICMP
    will be implemented in the next release of DECmcc (see note 694.5,
    also).  Depending on whether or not the desired functionality will be
    present, I may have to talk my management into sending $$ to Jean-Marc
    for the source code.
    
    Thanks,
    Dan