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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

699.0. "Line speed problem again" by ROM01::NINNI (Don't worry...be happy) Fri Feb 08 1991 08:25

    I installed the EFT release of DECmcc v.1.1. I 'm interested to test PA
    FM , using the new feature of this release that supports line speed.
    
    I did the new installation, starting from the DECmcc v.1.1 IFT.
    
    In the realese notes, I didn't read any special hints about it.
    
    After this, I discovered that the information about line entity and
    line speed attribute was automatically update for the Ethernet
    Interface only. Not the same happens for the other lines (if any) on a
    specific node (for example, routers).
    
    I tried to set the speed line manually: the operation worked well. But
    when I tried to apply any function from the Performance Analyzer, I
    receive an error message, because the line speed doesn't exist in the 
    DNS.
    
    What it means? Do I need to register manually each line, with the
    exception of the Ethernet one? I tried to find where DECmcc stores the
    information about a Line of a specific node, but I didn't find.
    May you help me?
    
    Thank you in advance
    
    Giuseppina
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699.1SETing Line SpeedTOOK::ANWARUDDINAnwarFri Feb 08 1991 12:377
Line Speed is an orphaned attribute. In the case of Ethernet lines, it
is supplied by the AMs because it is known. In the case of non-Ethernet
lines, it has to be set. Before you SET the line speed you should
REGISTER the Node the line is on. If the REGISTER is successful, you can 
set the line speed. I think this is described in the BMS Release Notes.

699.2Line Speed in DECnet phase IVTOOK::CAREYMon Feb 11 1991 20:3546
    
    From the DECnet phase 4 perspective, the problem with Line Speeds is
    that almost no devices make the speed visible to the software.
    
    For Ethernet devices, the speed is clearly defined, so we fill in the
    line speed if we see that the protocol is Ethernet.
    
    Some asynchronous DDCMP lines also return the line speed, and we will
    allow that to be passed back directly to the user.
    
    For other communications devices, the line speed is something set up in
    the hardware that the software cannot infer from the characteristics of
    the device.
    
    Therefore, we allow the network manager (you in this case) to store
    that information in the MIR.
    
    Anwar is correct that you should register the NODE4 entity. 
    Registering a Node4 has the added effect of registering all the lines
    and circuits currently available on that node4, so there is generally
    no need to specifically register lines.
    
    Then, using MCC, set the line speed to the speed you know the line to
    be operating at.  for example:
    
    	MCC> SET NODE4 mynode LINE DMR-0 line speed 56000
    
    From that point on, this added line speed will be returned as a
    Characteristic  of line DMR-0 on mynode.
    
    For your information, some additional behaviors of the line speed
    characteristic for phase 4:
    
    o	If the line speed is naturally returned by the device, then we 
    	return that line speed to the user, ignoring anything that may be
    	stored in the MIR.
    
    o	If the line is an Ethernet line, then we apply the default only if
    	there is no line speed stored in the MIR.  If there is something in
    	the MIR, we return that.
    
    o	For other devices, we return the line speed if it is in the MIR,
    	and not at all if it isn't.
    
    
    	
699.3The log file...ROM01::NINNIDon't worry...be happyWed Feb 13 1991 11:57138
    
    
    
    I'm sorry, but I still have the same problem. I followed 
    your instructions and I read the release notes.
    This is the log file:
    
Giusy > mcc
DECmcc (T1.1.0)
                         Default Entity = 
                      Default Qualifier = 
                                 Prompt = MCC> 
                            Indentation = 42
                            Symbol Name   Symbol Value
                            -----------   ------------
                                STDSTAT : for start (-00:00) duration 00:01:00

No notify requests are currently in progress
Command procedure verification is OFF
Logging is OFF, Logging file is MCC.LOG

MCC> show node4 RT5BO line * line speed

Node4 46.375 Line FIRENZE 
AT 13-FEB-1991 08:53:30 Characteristics

Node4 46.375 Line MILANO 
AT 13-FEB-1991 08:53:30 Characteristics
                             Line Speed = 64000

Node4 46.375 Line PISA 
AT 13-FEB-1991 08:53:32 Characteristics

Node4 46.375 Line X25-0
AT 13-FEB-1991 08:53:33 Characteristics

Node4 46.375 Line ETHERNET 
AT 13-FEB-1991 08:53:34 Characteristics
                             Line Speed = 10000000

MCC> show node4 RT5BO line MILANO all statis, stdstat

Node4 RT5BO Line MILANO 
AT 13-FEB-1991 08:54:59 Statistics

Line speed not set. Please set speed and reissue directive.
    
    
MCC> deregister node4 RT5BO

Node4 46.375 
AT 13-FEB-1991 09:03:44 

Deregistration Successful
MCC> register node4 .DNA_NODE.RT5BO
%STR-F-ILLSTRCLA, illegal string class
%STR-E-ILLSTRCLA, illegal string class
    
    PROBLEM 1>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>In this case I 
    need to exit and rerun MCC. Why?
    
Infn_mg > mcc
DECmcc (T1.1.0)


                         Default Entity = 
                      Default Qualifier = 
                                 Prompt = MCC> 
                            Indentation = 42
                            Symbol Name   Symbol Value
                            -----------   ------------
                                STDSTAT : for start (-00:00) duration 00:01:00

No notify requests are currently in progress
Command procedure verification is OFF
Logging is OFF, Logging file is MCC.LOG

MCC> register node4 .DNA_NODE.RT5BO
SYNONYM = RT5BO

Node4 46.375 Line ETHERNET 
AT 13-FEB-1991 09:04:31 

Registration Successful
MCC> 
MCC> show node4 RT5BO line * line speed

Node4 46.375 Line FIRENZE 
AT 13-FEB-1991 09:07:15 Characteristics

Node4 46.375 Line MILANO 
AT 13-FEB-1991 09:07:15 Characteristics

Node4 46.375 Line PISA 
AT 13-FEB-1991 09:07:16 Characteristics

Node4 46.375 Line X25-0 
AT 13-FEB-1991 09:07:17 Characteristics

Node4 46.375 Line ETHERNET 
AT 13-FEB-1991 09:07:18 Characteristics
                             Line Speed = 10000000

MCC> create node4 RT5BO line MILANO

Node4 46.375 Line MILANO 
AT 13-FEB-1991 09:07:37
Attempt to create duplicate entity rejected.

MCC> set node4 RT5BO line MILANO line speed 64000

Node4 46.375 Line MILANO 
AT 13-FEB-1991 09:08:03 Characteristics
Modifications completed successfully
                             Line Speed = 64000


MCC> show node4 RT5BO line MILANO line speed

Node4 46.375 Line MILANO 

AT 13-FEB-1991 09:08:18 Characteristics
                             Line Speed = 64000


MCC> show node4 RT5BO line MILANO all statis, stdstat
Node4 RT5BO Line MILANO 
AT 13-FEB-1991 09:09:45 Statistics

Line speed not set. Please set speed and reissue directive.

MCC> exit
Infn_mg > logout
    
    
    Any suggestions?
    
    Giuseppina
699.4This may be worth looking into...TOOK::GUERTINE = mccWed Feb 13 1991 12:5111
    I've seen similar behavior when a user had installed a PRE-V1.0 MCC (MCC
    T1.0 EFT) and never cleaned out their namespace.  A major restructuring
    took place in the way MCC V1.0 stored information in the DNS
    namespace.  If you have had any pre-V1.0 MCC installations, the namespace
    you used had to be cleaned out.  Unfortunately, we did not (do not)
    provide tools to converting MCC pre-v1.0 namespace setups to MCC V1.0 and
    later namespace setups.
    
    Is this a possibility?
    
    -Matt.
699.5Probably yes...ROM01::NINNIDon't worry...be happyWed Feb 13 1991 13:037
    
    Probably yes; I will check. But if it is my situation, Do I need
    to reload only the DECmcc directories, or do I recreate the namespece?
    
    Thanks in advance
    
    Giuseppina
699.6IFT v.1.1ROM01::NINNIDon't worry...be happyWed Feb 13 1991 14:4421
    
    I've checked.
    
    My situation is the following one:
    
    - I did the upgrade from the PRE-EFT v.1.0 to the IFT v.1.1; in that
      situation I deleted all the defined soft links, objects in the
      Namespace and I reloaded it using the MCC_LOAD_NODE.com.
    
      I discovered the problem about Performance Analyzer and Line speed
      and I read a topics in this notefile about it with the answer of its
      solution in the EFT of v.1.1
    
     - I waited for the EFT v.1.
    
     - Finally, I've installed it in order to produce traffic reports. But
       the problem , described in the previous topic, is occured.
    
    I hope to be clear. Any suggestions
    
    Giuseppina
699.7May you help me?ROM01::NINNIDon't worry...be happyTue Feb 19 1991 06:546
    
    Is there any solution for my problem? I need to have an answer.
    
    Thanks in advance
    
    Giuseppina
699.8try with fulllnameGOSTE::CALLANDERWed Feb 20 1991 16:4313
    
    I don't have an answer, though I am sure there is one. Have you
    tried the MCS kit?
    
    Besides that could you try the directive, referencing the node4
    entity by its fullnames (node4 .dna_node.xxx) and see what happens.
    
    If this doesn't give any better luck I suggest that you give a call
    to Anwar, he is the project lead for the performance anaylzer (DTN
    226-5393)
    
    jill
    
699.9Not MCS. ROM01::NINNIDon't worry...be happyTue Feb 26 1991 09:20112
    
    I'm not working on the  MCS release, but the previous one.
    
    I 've tried to do the same commands, using your suggestions, but like
    you can see withou any successes. 
    
    In these tests, it seems that the nodes' names which are stored in the 
    DNS sometimes in Uppercase, other timer in lowercase, other ones it's a
    mixture of both formats. Is it normal?
    
    For example .DNA_NODE.NODENAME
    		.dna_node.nodename
    		.DNA_NODE.nodename
    
    What do you suggest? May I solve my problems installing the MCS
    kit? Thanks in advance
    
    Giuseppina
    
    

dir node4 *, in domain Roma
!
!Node4 INFNMG_NS:.DNA_NODE.INFNMG 
!AT 25-FEB-1991 15:23:02 
!
!Directory successful.
!                        Registered Name = INFNMG_NS:.DNA_NODE.INFNMG
!                                Address = 46.19
!                                   Name = INFNMG
!
!Node4 INFNMG_NS:.dna_node.INFNGW 
!AT 25-FEB-1991 15:23:03 
!
!Directory successful.
!                        Registered Name = INFNMG_NS:.dna_node.INFNGW
!                                Address = 46.13
!                                   Name = INFNGW
!
!Node4 INFNMG_NS:.dna_node.rt3bo 
!AT 25-FEB-1991 15:23:03 
!
!Directory successful.
!                        Registered Name = INFNMG_NS:.dna_node.rt3bo
!                                Address = 46.107
!                                   Name = RT3BO
!
!Node4 INFNMG_NS:.dna_node.rt5bo 
!AT 25-FEB-1991 15:23:04 
!
!Directory successful.
!                        Registered Name = INFNMG_NS:.dna_node.rt5bo
!                                Address = 46.375
!                                   Name = RT5BO
!
show node4 RT5BO line MILANO line speed
!
!Node4 46.375 Line MILANO 
!AT 25-FEB-1991 15:23:25 Characteristics
!
!                             Line Speed = 64000
!
show node4 RT5BO line MILANO all statis,for duration 00:00:30
!
!Node4 RT5BO Line MILANO 
!AT 25-FEB-1991 15:24:41 Statistics
!
!Line speed not set. Please set speed and reissue directive.
!
show node4 rt5bo line MILANO all statis,for duration 00:00:30
!
!Node4 rt5bo Line MILANO 
!AT 25-FEB-1991 15:25:27 Statistics
!
!Line speed not set. Please set speed and reissue directive.
!
show node4 .dna_node.rt5bo line MILANO all statis,for duration 00:00:30
!
!Node4 INFNMG_NS:.dna_node.rt5bo Line MILANO 
!AT 25-FEB-1991 15:26:13 Statistics
!
!Line speed not set. Please set speed and reissue directive.
!
show node4 .dna_node.rt5bo line milano all statis,for duration 00:00:30
!
!Node4 INFNMG_NS:.dna_node.rt5bo Line milano 
!AT 25-FEB-1991 15:26:57 Statistics
!
!Line speed not set. Please set speed and reissue directive.
!
show node4 .DNA_NODE.RT5BO line MILANO all statis,for duration 00:00:30
!
!Node4 INFNMG_NS:.DNA_NODE.RT5BO Line MILANO 
!AT 25-FEB-1991 15:28:00 Statistics
!
!Line speed not set. Please set speed and reissue directive.
!
show node4 .DNA_NODE.RT5BO line MILANO all statis,for duration 00:00:30
!
!Node4 INFNMG_NS:.DNA_NODE.RT5BO Line MILANO 
!AT 25-FEB-1991 15:29:13 Statistics
!
!Line speed not set. Please set speed and reissue directive.
!
show node4 .DNA_NODE.RT5BO line MILANO line speed
!
!Node4 46.375 Line MILANO 
!AT 25-FEB-1991 15:30:22 Characteristics
!
!                             Line Speed = 64000
!
    
699.10Let's verify the namespace and line speed are okay....TOOK::CAREYWed Feb 27 1991 12:5362
    
    
    Giuseppinna,
    
    The error message you're receiving indicates (obviously) that the line
    speed isn't set up correctly, yet it appears to be just fine.   It may
    be that some other condition which exists on your installation is
    prompting PA to incorrectly report this error, while it should be
    indicating some other error condition.
    
    From the DECnet Phase IV AM perspective, I'd like to make sure that the
    line speed is set for line MILANO and is gettable in whatever way the
    PA may choose to attempt to get it.  You have successfully shown it one
    way, let's verify all other ways.  If the line speed is set and
    gettable from all directions, that will give us some information to
    work with resolving this.
    
    From MCC, try the following:
    
    	DIRECTORY NODE4 INFNMG_NS:.dna_node.rt5bo
    	DIRECTORY NODE4 .dna_node.rt5bo
    	DIRECTORY NODE4 .DNA_NODE.rt5bo
    	DIRECTORY NODE4 .dna_node.RT5BO
    	DIRECTORY NODE4 RT5BO
    	DIRECTORY NODE4 rt5bo
    	DIRECTORY NODE4 46.375
    
    My testing shows that you should get the same response to all of these, 
    that is, the request should return the Registered Name, Address, and
    Name of the node4 registered as RT5BO.
    
    If one of these returns anything different (such as an error), then we
    may be onto the problem.
    
    Assuming the line speed on line MILANO is still set, try the following
    commands from the MCC> prompt as well:
    
    	SHOW NODE4 INFNMG_NS:.dna_node.rt5bo line milano line speed
    	SHOW NODE4 .dna_node.rt5bo line milano line speed
    	SHOW NODE4 rt5bo line milano line speed
    	SHOW NODE4 46.375 line milano line speed
    
    All of these should return the line speed of 64000.  If any one of them
    fails, then it points to an error in the namespace, and we should be
    able to track it down quickly.
    
    I have a nameserver installed on my local VMS node for my testing, and
    I haven't been able to induce any errors by using different
    combinations of upper and lower case characters, so I don't think it is
    a problem, but these commands and attempts should help us to make sure.
    
    If all of these commands work (and they all work on my test platform),
    then we know that the line speed is set correctly, the node4 is
    registered well, and therefore the error must be an incorrect report of
    some other condition.  If you get any errors, or any strange results
    from these requests, then they should point us quickly to whatever
    error has occurred to set up this condition.
    
    Thanks for your time, let's see what the results are of this suite....
    
    -Jim Carey
    
699.11These are the resultsROM01::NINNIDon't worry...be happyThu Feb 28 1991 09:25401
HI JIM,
I've followed your suggestions. These are the results:

>    From MCC, try the following:
>    
>    	DIRECTORY NODE4 INFNMG_NS:.dna_node.rt5bo
>    	DIRECTORY NODE4 .dna_node.rt5bo
>    	DIRECTORY NODE4 .DNA_NODE.rt5bo
>    	DIRECTORY NODE4 .dna_node.RT5BO
>    	DIRECTORY NODE4 RT5BO
>    	DIRECTORY NODE4 rt5bo
>    	DIRECTORY NODE4 46.375
>




DIRECTORY NODE4 .DNA_NODE.RT5BO, IN DOMAIN CNAF
!
!Node4 INFNMG_NS:.DNA_NODE.RT5BO 
!AT 28-FEB-1991 08:39:42 
!
!Directory successful.
!                        Registered Name = INFNMG_NS:.DNA_NODE.RT5BO
!                                Address = 46.375
!                                   Name = RT5BO
!
DIRECTORY NODE4 .DNA_NODE.rt5bo, IN DOMAIN CNAF
!
!Node4 INFNMG_NS:.DNA_NODE.RT5BO 
!AT 28-FEB-1991 08:40:02 
!
!Directory successful.
!                        Registered Name = INFNMG_NS:.DNA_NODE.RT5BO
!                                Address = 46.375
!                                   Name = RT5BO
!
DIRECTORY NODE4 .dna_node.rt5bo, IN DOMAIN CNAF
!
!Node4 INFNMG_NS:.DNA_NODE.RT5BO 
!AT 28-FEB-1991 08:40:19 
!
!Directory successful.
!                        Registered Name = INFNMG_NS:.DNA_NODE.RT5BO
!                                Address = 46.375
!                                   Name = RT5BO
!
DIRECTORY NODE4 .dna_node.RT5BO, IN DOMAIN CNAF

directory node4 rt3bo
!
!Node4 rt3bo 
!AT 28-FEB-1991 09:13:42 
!
!Directory successful.
!                        Registered Name = INFNMG_NS:.dna_node.rt3bo
!                                Address = 39.107
!                                   Name = RT3BO
!
directory node4 rt3bo, in domain cnaf
!
!Node4 rt3bo 
!AT 28-FEB-1991 09:13:51 
!
!The requested operation cannot be completed
!            MCC Unhandled Service Reply = No such entity: Domain Member 
!                         Unknown Entity = Domain Member 
!
show node4 rt3bo line milano line speed
!
!Node4 39.107 Line milano 
!AT 28-FEB-1991 09:14:27 Characteristics
!
!No such entity: Node4 rt3bo Line milano 
!                         Unknown Entity = Node4 rt3bo Line milano 
!
show node4 rt3bo line ferrara line speed
!
!Node4 39.107 Line ferrara 
!AT 28-FEB-1991 09:14:41 Characteristics
!
!                             Line Speed = 9600
!
show node4 rt3bo line ferrara all statis, for duration 00:00:30
!
!Node4 rt3bo Line ferrara 
!AT 28-FEB-1991 09:15:30 Statistics
!
!Examination of Attributes shows:
!                               Duration = 30 Seconds
!                   Outbound Utilization = 6.900000E-02 Percent
!                    Inbound Utilization = 1.400000E-02 Percent
!            Average Outbound Block Size = 15 Bytes/Block
!             Average Inbound Block Size = -- Invalid Value
!                    Outbound Block Rate = 3.300000E-02 Blocks/Sec
!                     Inbound Block Rate = 0 Blocks/Sec
!          Count of Local Reply Timeouts = 0
!         Count of Remote Reply Timeouts = 0
!             Outbound Data Frame Errors = 0
!              Inbound Data Frame Errors = 0
!           Count of Local Buffer Errors = 0
!          Count of Remote Buffer Errors = 0
!            Count of Selection Timeouts = 0
!   Count of Selection Intervals Elapsed = 0
!         Count of Remote Station Errors = 0
!          Count of Local Station Errors = 0
!                          Error Percent = 0
!                         Outbound Bytes = 15 Bytes
!                          Inbound Bytes = 5 Bytes
!                   Outbound Data Blocks = 1 Blocks
!                    Inbound Data Blocks = 0 Blocks
!
!
!
!
!Node4 INFNMG_NS:.DNA_NODE.RT5BO 
!AT 28-FEB-1991 08:40:31 
!
!Directory successful.
!                        Registered Name = INFNMG_NS:.DNA_NODE.RT5BO
!                                Address = 46.375
!                                   Name = RT5BO
!

>>>>
>>>> Like you can see, if you use DIRECTORY command + IN DOMAIN 
>>>> qualifier, it works only if you specify the full name (not address, 
>>>> not Synonym)

DIRECTORY NODE4 RT5BO, IN DOMAIN CNAF
!
!Node4 RT5BO 
!AT 28-FEB-1991 08:40:45 
!
!The requested operation cannot be completed
!            MCC Unhandled Service Reply = No such entity: Domain Member 
!                         Unknown Entity = Domain Member 
!
DIRECTORY NODE4 rt5bo, IN DOMAIN CNAF
!
!Node4 rt5bo 
!AT 28-FEB-1991 08:41:02 
!
!The requested operation cannot be completed
!            MCC Unhandled Service Reply = No such entity: Domain Member 
!                         Unknown Entity = Domain Member 
!
directory node4 rt5bo
!
!Node4 rt5bo 
!AT 28-FEB-1991 09:12:55 
!
!Directory successful.
!                        Registered Name = INFNMG_NS:.DNA_NODE.RT5BO
!                                Address = 46.375
!                                   Name = RT5BO
!
directory node4 rt5bo, in domain cnaf
!
!Node4 rt5bo 
!AT 28-FEB-1991 09:13:08 
!
!The requested operation cannot be completed
!            MCC Unhandled Service Reply = No such entity: Domain Member 
!                         Unknown Entity = Domain Member 
!
directory node4 46.375
!
!Node4 46.375 
!AT 28-FEB-1991 09:13:20 
!
!Directory successful.
!                        Registered Name = INFNMG_NS:.DNA_NODE.RT5BO
!                                Address = 46.375
!                                   Name = RT5BO
!
directory node4 46.375, in domain cnaf
!
!Node4 46.375 
!AT 28-FEB-1991 09:13:32 
!
!The requested operation cannot be completed
!            MCC Unhandled Service Reply = No such entity: Domain Member 
!                         Unknown Entity = Domain Member 
!

>   ... Try these commands from the MCC> prompt as well:
>    
>    	SHOW NODE4 INFNMG_NS:.dna_node.rt5bo line milano line speed
>    	SHOW NODE4 .dna_node.rt5bo line milano line speed
>    	SHOW NODE4 rt5bo line milano line speed
>    	SHOW NODE4 46.375 line milano line speed
>    

show node4 rt5bo line milano line speed
!
!Node4 46.375 Line milano 
!AT 28-FEB-1991 09:14:16 Characteristics
!
!                             Line Speed = 64000
!
show node4 rt5bo line milano all statis, for duration 00:00:30
!
!Node4 rt5bo Line milano 
!AT 28-FEB-1991 09:16:34 Statistics
!
!Line speed not set. Please set speed and reissue directive.
!
show node4 INFNMG_NS:.DNA_NODE.RT5BO line MILANO line speed
!
!Node4 46.375 Line MILANO 
!AT 28-FEB-1991 09:17:03 Characteristics
!
!                             Line Speed = 64000
!
show node4 INFNMG_NS:.DNA_NODE.rt5bo line MILANO line speed
!
!Node4 46.375 Line MILANO 
!AT 28-FEB-1991 09:17:17 Characteristics
!
!                             Line Speed = 64000
!
show node4 INFNMG_NS:.dna_node.rt5bo line MILANO line speed
!
!Node4 46.375 Line MILANO 
!AT 28-FEB-1991 09:17:36 Characteristics
!
!                             Line Speed = 64000
!
show node4 INFnmg_NS:.dna_NODE.rt5BO line MILANO line speed
!
!Node4 46.375 Line MILANO 
!AT 28-FEB-1991 09:17:57 Characteristics
!
!                             Line Speed = 64000
!
show node4 INFNMG_ns:.dNa_NODE.rt5BO line MILANO line speed
!
!Node4 46.375 Line MILANO 
!AT 28-FEB-1991 09:18:18 Characteristics
!
!                             Line Speed = 64000
!
show node4 .dna_node.rt5bo line MILANO line speed
!
!Node4 46.375 Line MILANO 
!AT 28-FEB-1991 09:18:47 Characteristics
!
!                             Line Speed = 64000
!
show node4 .dna_node.rt5bo line MILANO line speed
!
!Node4 46.375 Line MILANO 
!AT 28-FEB-1991 09:18:59 Characteristics
!
!                             Line Speed = 64000
!
show node4 .DNA_NODE.rt5bo line MILANO line speed
!
!Node4 46.375 Line MILANO 
!AT 28-FEB-1991 09:19:18 Characteristics
!
!                             Line Speed = 64000
!
show node4 .DNA_NODE.RT5BO line MILANO line speed
!
!Node4 46.375 Line MILANO 
!AT 28-FEB-1991 09:19:32 Characteristics
!
!                             Line Speed = 64000
!
show node4 RT5BO line MILANO line speed
!
!Node4 46.375 Line MILANO 
!AT 28-FEB-1991 09:19:47 Characteristics
!
!                             Line Speed = 64000
!
show node4 rt5bo line MILANO line speed
!
!Node4 46.375 Line MILANO 
!AT 28-FEB-1991 09:19:59 Characteristics
!
!                             Line Speed = 64000
!
show node4 46.375 line MILANO line speed
!
!Node4 46.375 Line MILANO 
!AT 28-FEB-1991 09:20:15 Characteristics
!
!                             Line Speed = 64000
!
show node4 46.375 line MILANO line speed, in domain canf
!
!Node4 46.375 Line MILANO 
!AT 28-FEB-1991 09:20:28 Characteristics
!
!                             Line Speed = 64000
!

>I HAVE OBSERVED ALSO IT'S THE SAME IF I USE THE IN DOMAIN QUALIFIER WITH SHOW
>COMMAND OR I DON'T USE IT.

show node4 46.375 line MILANO line speed, in domain cnaf
!
!Node4 46.375 Line MILANO 
!AT 28-FEB-1991 09:20:39 Characteristics
!
!                             Line Speed = 64000
!
show node4 46.375 line MILANO line speed, in domain pinco_pallino
!
!Node4 46.375 Line MILANO 
!AT 28-FEB-1991 09:20:48 Characteristics
!
!                             Line Speed = 64000
!
show node4 46.375 line MILANO line speed, in domain eheheh
!
!Node4 46.375 Line MILANO 
!AT 28-FEB-1991 09:21:01 Characteristics
!
!                             Line Speed = 64000
    
>>>> THERE IS ONLY ONE NODE WHERE I CAN APPLY THE PERFORMANCE ANALYZER.
>>>> THESE ARE THE RESULTS
     

directory node4 rt3bo
!
!Node4 rt3bo 
!AT 28-FEB-1991 09:13:42 
!
!Directory successful.
!                        Registered Name = INFNMG_NS:.dna_node.rt3bo
!                                Address = 46.107
!                                   Name = RT3BO
!
directory node4 rt3bo, in domain cnaf
!
!Node4 rt3bo 
!AT 28-FEB-1991 09:13:51 
!
!The requested operation cannot be completed
!            MCC Unhandled Service Reply = No such entity: Domain Member 
!                         Unknown Entity = Domain Member 
!
show node4 rt3bo line milano line speed
!
!Node4 46.107 Line milano 
!AT 28-FEB-1991 09:14:27 Characteristics
!
!No such entity: Node4 rt3bo Line milano 
!                         Unknown Entity = Node4 rt3bo Line milano 
!
show node4 rt3bo line ferrara line speed
!
!Node4 46.107 Line ferrara 
!AT 28-FEB-1991 09:14:41 Characteristics
!
!                             Line Speed = 9600
!
show node4 rt3bo line ferrara all statis, for duration 00:00:30
!
!Node4 rt3bo Line ferrara 
!AT 28-FEB-1991 09:15:30 Statistics
!
!Examination of Attributes shows:
!                               Duration = 30 Seconds
!                   Outbound Utilization = 6.900000E-02 Percent
!                    Inbound Utilization = 1.400000E-02 Percent
!            Average Outbound Block Size = 15 Bytes/Block
!             Average Inbound Block Size = -- Invalid Value
!                    Outbound Block Rate = 3.300000E-02 Blocks/Sec
!                     Inbound Block Rate = 0 Blocks/Sec
!          Count of Local Reply Timeouts = 0
!         Count of Remote Reply Timeouts = 0
!             Outbound Data Frame Errors = 0
!              Inbound Data Frame Errors = 0
!           Count of Local Buffer Errors = 0
!          Count of Remote Buffer Errors = 0
!            Count of Selection Timeouts = 0
!   Count of Selection Intervals Elapsed = 0
!         Count of Remote Station Errors = 0
!          Count of Local Station Errors = 0
!                          Error Percent = 0
!                         Outbound Bytes = 15 Bytes
!                          Inbound Bytes = 5 Bytes
!                   Outbound Data Blocks = 1 Blocks
!                    Inbound Data Blocks = 0 Blocks
!
!
!



THANKS FOR YOUR TIME

	GIUSEPPINA     
    
    
699.12Watch this space.TOOK::CAREYFri Mar 01 1991 14:467
    
    Thanks for the quick response.  I've extracted it, we'll take a look
    at it and probably will have some more questions for you soon.... 
    Maybe even some answers!
    
    -Jim
    
699.13No answers, what kind of node and line?TOOK::CAREYFri Mar 01 1991 19:0319
    
    Okay, 
    
    The line speed seems to be in the namespace just fine, and seems to be
    available no matter how you reference the Node4.
    
    What kind of a node is it?  
    
    What kind of a line?
    
    I can't reproduce this error, and have played with a wide variety of
    DECnet nodes and lines.  I am running the latest version of MCC, so
    my copy may be a little better than yours.
    
    -Jim Carey
    
    P.S.  Thanks for collecting all that information for me.
    
    
699.14DEMSAROM01::NINNIDon't worry...be happyMon Mar 04 1991 06:556
    
    
    The routers are DEMSAs.
    
    Giuseppina
    
699.15Latest kit has no problem with DEMSAsTOOK::CAREYMon Mar 04 1991 13:1129
    
    Thanks for the info.
    
    Most of the testing I just completed trying to reproduce and verify
    your problem was on DEMSA routers.  I used lines on all three
    configurations, X25, SNA gateway, and DECrouter 2000s in hopes that it
    might be a specific problem with a specific type of DECnet line.  On
    none of them was I able to cause this to happen.
    
    I am running with the very latest and greatest V1.1 kit.  The
    Performance Analysis FM, and the DECnet AM both saw some changes during 
    EFT in response to reported problems, and it may be that we indirectly
    addressed this problem you have been having.
    
    I'm stuck.  I'd like to see if you are able to reproduce this problem
    with the latest kit.  Hopefully, we will find that we are chasing a 
    problem that was cleared up by the enhancements to DECmcc that were 
    required during Field Test.
    
    Without being able to reproduce this problem, we are stuck.
    
    When you get an opportunity, upgrade to the latest announced kit (see
    note 3 in here).  
    
    Let me know if you have problems with it.  Perhaps that will give us 
    more information about what is going on.
    
    -Jim
    
699.16OK, I will do..ROM01::NINNIDon't worry...be happyTue Mar 05 1991 09:178
    I will try the upgrade with the latest announced kit.
    
    I will share with you any results.
    
    Thanks 
    
    Giuseppina
    
699.17More on line speedsLEMAN::BIROGeorges Biro - SR/ACTTue Jun 25 1991 12:0749
    Hello,
    
    What is the last status of this problem?
    
    I am running DECmcc BMS V1.1 + SNMP AM (corrected as per the release
    notes) + TSAM + VItalink AM. I would like to use the PA FM. I
    attempted to define the line speed from the FCL as documented (set node4 
    ZSWRTR line SYN-0 line speed 64000) I get the error message:
	
    	MCC Error = %MCC-E-ILVTNF,  specified tag not
        found within current constructor
    
    I can set the line speed from the iconic interface, however. I can also
    see it as follows:
    
    MCC> SHOW NODE4 ZSWRTR LINE SYN-0 ALL CHARACTERISTICS

    Node4 48.690 Line SYN-0
    AT 25-JUN-1991 15:00:54 Characteristics

    Examination of Attributes shows:
                          Counter Timer = 14400 Seconds
                                 Device = SYN-0
                        Receive Buffers = 64
                             Controller = Normal
                                 Duplex = Full
                               Protocol = DDCMP Point
                                  Clock = External
                          Service Timer = 20000 Milliseconds
                       Retransmit Timer = 3000 Milliseconds
                             Line Speed = 64000

    
    Still, the statistical commands fail with the following result: 
    
    MCC> SHOW NODE4 ZSWRTR LINE SYN-0 ALL statistics, FOR EVERY 00:30 UNTIL -
    13:15 START (12:45), IN DOMAIN GENEVE

    Node4 ZSWRTR Line SYN-0
    AT 25-JUN-1991 13:15:00 Statistics

    Line speed not set. Please set speed and reissue directive.
    	
    
    This problem seems to be similar to the one identified by Giuseppina.
    Is there a solution?
    
    Thanks,
    	Georges.
699.18GAB AM ?HERON::MORALESDEC:.VBO.ACT.DECmcc|828-5383Wed Jun 26 1991 16:3226
	Ave Georges,

if I remember correctly I had the same problem to set line speed (%MCC-E-ILVTNF),
this was caused by the Gab AM ...I had to apply a remedy similar to
SNMP patch because the set directive uses a wrong code.

If you haven't the GAB AM then forget this reply,(others can also produce this
problem, check the class codes in the dictionary,mainly the highest value class),
otherwise try this:


DAP> show class gab directive set request set

   Class (1) : GAB
     Directive (6) : SET
-----> Request (7) : SET
         Argument (4) : ARGSETVALUELIST 1   <---- do you get 121 ?

If yes , then you have to modify your MSL or the dictionary to have 1 for 
argument code (for GAB and its subclasses).
Maybe its time to do an ILV dump .
Read also note 755.*


		Manuel.
699.19Bon pointLEMAN::BIROGeorges Biro - SR/ACTThu Jun 27 1991 07:0110
    OK Manuel, here we are. I have the GAB AM and, of course, I read 121
    instead of 1
         Argument (4) : ARGSETVALUELIST 121
    
    This explains the (%MCC-E-ILVTNF) problem. Does it also explain why,
    after having defined the line speed from the iconic map, DECmcc still
    complains about the line speed as not being set?
    
    Merci,
    	Georges.