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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

621.0. "PROBLEM with Exporter" by ZUR01::SCHNEIDERR () Tue Jan 15 1991 13:02

Hello,

I have the following problem with the exporter and don't know what I am doing
wrong.

I startet a batchqueue for the exporter
I submited the mcc_background_exporter.com

In the iconic map I selected a NODE4 and selected export function in the
operation menu. I defined a export job (only end time and export periode), so
the export module should take the default mcc_export.rdb. After the time is 
passed, I don't find a RDB file.
During the export job, I tried to define a new one and mcc told me 
"EXPORTING ARREADY EXISTS" this is clear to me. But if I try to do a
"SCHOW EXPORTING" I get a message "this message connot use the in Domain"
"Unsupported Qualifier Id    In Domain"

What have I done wrong?


					Roland
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621.1TOOK::SHMUYLOVICHTue Jan 15 1991 16:1139
  Re: .1

	Hi Roland,

	Some suggestions why you could not find rdb file:

>I startet a batchqueue for the exporter
>I submited the mcc_background_exporter.com
>
>In the iconic map I selected a NODE4 and selected export function in the
>operation menu. I defined a export job (only end time and export periode), so
>the export module should take the default mcc_export.rdb. After the time is 
>passed, I don't find a RDB file.

  Exporter_fm has two levels of defaults:
	1. logical MCC_EXP_RDB_FILE which can be defined form DCL and
	2. SYS$LOGIN:MCC_EXPORT.RDB which is used if logical MCC_EXP_RDB_FILE 
	  is not defined.

  If you use the second level of defaults you must specify 
  /PARAMETERS = SYS$LOGIN:MCC_EXPORT.RDB in the time you submit the 
  mcc_background_exporter.com. Please, check this parameter.

  Did you look for MCC_EXPORT.RDB file in the SYS$LOGIN directory?
 

>During the export job, I tried to define a new one and mcc told me 
>"EXPORTING ARREADY EXISTS" this is clear to me. But if I try to do a
>"SCHOW EXPORTING" I get a message "this message connot use the in Domain"
>"Unsupported Qualifier Id    In Domain"

  This is a big. It is fixed in V1.1 MCS version.
  In version of MCC you have the only Export function of Exporter FM works
  from the Iconic Map, from FCL all functions work correctly.

  Sorry for inconvenience.  

	Sam
621.2I do soZUR01::SCHNEIDERRWed Jan 16 1991 07:5926
Sam

Thanks for your answer.

That with the bug is o.k. for me. The other problem is:

I tried now via the fcl interface. I submit the background process, as i done
yesterday (parameter = sys$login:mcc_export.rdb), start the exporter 
(mcc> export node4 xxxx stop time = xxx, export period = xxx).
So far it runs. But now I do:

-- mcc> show_export node4 xxx   --> proper display, with job as active

-- $ show queue export  --> the background process is gone, the queue is empty

-- $ dir sys$login:*.rdb  --> no file

-- after the endtime is reached, mcc> show_export node4 xxx  --> shows the job
								  as active

-- now I have to do a delete_export



						Roland
621.3how to check RDBTOOK::SHMUYLOVICHThu Jan 17 1991 13:0021
    
	Re: .2

	Roland,

	Did you try to look at the queue log file?
	Error message can give some ideas what is wrong.

	It seems to me the problem is in RDB. 
	Is RDB installed on your system? To check this,
	please, do the following:

	  - install list sys$share:rdbshr.exe and

	  - dir sys$library:sql$int.exe

	(In the MCC V1.1 MCS release this will be done automatically)

	Regards, Sam
    
621.4seems o.kZUR01::SCHNEIDERRFri Jan 18 1991 12:5228

Hello Sam,

I didn't instal RDB new, but on the same node NMCC/DECnetmonitor runs and it
uses RDB.

I've checked the installation:

$ install list sys$share:rdbshr.exe

DISK$VAXVMSRL052:<SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB>.EXE
   RDBSHR;1         Open Hdr               Lnkbl

$ dir sys$library:sql$int.exe

Directory SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB]

SQL$INT.EXE;1           754  13-JUN-1989 22:07:46.30


I found the following errormessage in the exporter logfile:

%EXPORT-F-SYNCNORESP, no response from child within time limit
%EXPORT-E-SYNCNORESP, no response from child within time limit


							roland
621.5EXPORTER FM requires >= VAX Rdb/VMS V3.1TOOK::R_LANEMon Jan 21 1991 15:4513
Hi Roland,

The EXPORTER FM requires VAX Rdb/VMS V3.1 (or higher version).  Judging
from the date of SQL$INT.EXE in your reply, I'd guess that you're running
a release of VAX Rdb/VMS V3.0.  This is probably causing the EXPORTER's
writer subprocess to fail due to version mismatch with the Rdb and SQL
shareable images.  Once you upgrade to VAX Rdb/VMS V3.1, the writer
subprocess should execute successfully.  Before testing the EXPORTER again,
you should check that the background process has adequate subprocess quota
to spawn the single writer subprocess.


Roy
621.6Exporter Blues.. "Background exporting process is not set up"NOATAK::TIMMERMANJim TimmermanWed Jan 30 1991 23:5744
I have gone over my procedure pretty thoroughly about 5 times now and still can
not get exporter to work.  I checked for previously mentioned clues:

	o My rdb is V3.1A  (Release notes say V3.1B !!) has anyone demonstrated
          that V3.1A will not work ??  Previous entries say 3.1 or greater..

	o I submit the MCC_EXPORTER_BACKGROUND.COM with the /param=file.rdb
	  on que MCC$EXPORT  The batch job has a subprocess quota of 30.
	  
	  Do I understand correctly that this batch job itself spawns a 
	  subprocess which executes the actual database population ? Does
	  a seperate batch submission have to be initiated for every export
	  directive ?  Or, does the batch job spawn child jobs for each export
	  directive from DECmcc?  While SHOWing SYS, I never see additional
	  processes.

	o My persistant symptom is as follows:

MCC> EXPORT NODE4 MTADAM END TIME = 19:00, EXPORT PERIOD = 00:00:05, -
_MCC> EXPORT TARGET = SYS$LOOGIN:MCC_EXPORT_FORBDN.RDB


Node4 MTADAM
AT 30-JAN-1991 18:24:24

Background exporting process is not set up

MCC> 


The above was entered while system time was about 18:30, so this was an export
of the future variety.  Even though it says that the background exporting
process is not set up, a sho que/batch shows:

GLCIER_System > show que/batch
Batch queue MCC$EXPORT

  Jobname         Username     Entry          Status
  -------         --------     -----          ------
  MCC_EXPORTER_BACKGROUND
                  SYSTEM         334          Executing

...help !
621.7RE: .6TOOK::SHMUYLOVICHThu Jan 31 1991 19:4878

	RE: .6

	I'll answer your questions in the opposite order: from the button to
	the top.

>	o My persistant symptom is as follows:
>
>MCC> EXPORT NODE4 MTADAM END TIME = 19:00, EXPORT PERIOD = 00:00:05, -
>_MCC> EXPORT TARGET = SYS$LOOGIN:MCC_EXPORT_FORBDN.RDB
>
>
>Node4 MTADAM
>AT 30-JAN-1991 18:24:24
>
>Background exporting process is not set up
>
>MCC> 
>
>
>The above was entered while system time was about 18:30, so this was an export
>of the future variety.  Even though it says that the background exporting
>process is not set up, a sho que/batch shows:
>
>GLCIER_System > show que/batch
>Batch queue MCC$EXPORT
>
>  Jobname         Username     Entry          Status
>  -------         --------     -----          ------
>  MCC_EXPORTER_BACKGROUND
>                  SYSTEM         334          Executing


	It can be only one reason for such situation:
  EXPORT TARGET argument in the EXPORT directive and parameter in SUBMIT
  are not the same. This parameter can be verified using SHOW ENTRY/FULL.


>	  Do I understand correctly that this batch job itself spawns a 
>	  subprocess which executes the actual database population ?
			
>                ... Or, does the batch job spawn child jobs for each export
>	  directive from DECmcc? 

	   Every background process spawns only one child.
	 
>                                                                ... Does
>	  a seperate batch submission have to be initiated for every export
>	  directive ?  
	   
	   Exporter background process works on per RDB file basis, so you
	   must submit a separate process for every one RDB file you use.
	   RDB file name is used as parameter to submit. The same RDB file
	   name must be specified as a "export target" argument to the all 
	   directives of the Exporter FM.

           If, for example, you export data from two different entities to 
	   the same RDB file you need only one background process. If you
	   export data from one entity into two different RDB files you 
	   need two background processes (of course, you have to specify
	   two EXPORT directives with corresponding "export target" arguments).
	   You are free to export data from several different entities into
	   one RDB file.

>	o My rdb is V3.1A  (Release notes say V3.1B !!) has anyone demonstrated
>          that V3.1A will not work ??  Previous entries say 3.1 or greater..

	   We did not try to work with V3.1A. But your current problem is not
	   with rdb. In the beginning background process spawns a child which 
	   is responsible for writing in RDB. If this child can not start 
	   (usually it happens when something is wrong in the RDB) it notifies 
	   its parent process and exporter background process terminates. In
	   your case a background process is alive. 


	Sam
	   
621.8Ahhhh.. It's all making sense now !NOATAK::TIMMERMANJim TimmermanFri Feb 01 1991 00:1432
I just successfully kicked off a retry of -.2, and got a 

	Node4 45.864
	AT 31-JAN-1991 18:58:06
	Exporting started

after making sure the Directive's target agreed with the que entry's file spec.

Thanks much for the patient and careful explanations!


For those who might stumble along the same path I did, here's my recipe:

This is in my SYSTARTUP_V5.COM:

$  INITIALIZE/QUEUE/START/JOB:8/BATCH/BASE_PRIORITY=3/OWNER=[SYSTEM]-
/PROT=(S:E,O:D,G:RW,W) MCC$EXPORT

This is my command to put an export job on the batch que:

$SUBMIT/QUE=MCC$EXPORT/PARAMETERS=SYS$LOGIN:MCC_EXPORT.RDB-
 SYS$MANAGER:MCC_EXPORTER_BACKGROUND.COM

This is my command to initiate the export directive:

$ MANAGE/ENT EXPORT NODE4 MTADAM END TIME = 22:00, EXPORT PERIOD = 00:00:10,-
 EXPORT TARGET = SYS$LOGIN:MCC_EXPORT.RDB

This is even pretty much what the documentation says to do though for me it 
wasn't obvious that the submit /param switch *had* to agree with the 
"EXPORT TARGET = " specification of the directive.
621.9... %MCC-E-ALERT_TERMREQ, thread termination requestedNOATAK::TIMMERMANJim TimmermanSat Feb 02 1991 00:2773
    After finally getting squared away on making sure that EXPORT TARGET
    and the batch parameter file specs for rdb are the same (per .5-.8),
    I am stuck again with a new problem with Exporter.  

                                  *** I ***

    I initially was able to get a complete future export of node_only
    counters into an rdb database.  I was not able to generate a report
    however.  Sam Shmuylovich pointed out to me that my trying to
    generate a Line Traffic Bandwidth Utilization Report from a database
    that only had node attribute data in it is the obvious reason that I
    got the following error.  He also mentioned that there might be a bug
    in the Reports procedures making it necessary to put line attribute
    info into the rdb file before one could generate node only reports.
    I'd appreciate confirmation of this.  The log file complains:

    $dtr
    VAX Datatrieve T5.1
    DEC Query and Report System
    Type HELP for help

    :node4_line_bandwidth_rpt
    "MCC_NODE4_LINE" is not a readied source, collection, or list.
    "CURRENT" is not a readied source, collection, or list.
    "CURRENT" is not a readied source, collection, or list.
    "CURRENT" is not a readied source, collection, or list.
    exit
    $exit
      SYSTEM       job terminated at  1-FEB-1991 11:18:08.16  [..etc]

    I was not able to continue playing the angles on this because I ran
    into a new problem:

                                  *** II ***

    After having been able to successfully launch Export batch jobs via,

    $ SUBMIT/QUE=MCC$EXPORT/RESTART/PARAMETERS=SYS$LOGIN:MCC_EXPORT.RDB -
        SYS$MANAGER:MCC_EXPORTER_BACKGROUND.COM

    all of a sudden, the batch jobs started consistantly blowing up after
    some 10s of seconds with the following in the log file:

    $!
    $       IF P1 .NES. "" THEN GOTO START_BTS
    $ START_BTS:
    $!
    $       BTS == "$SYS$SYSTEM:MCC_EXPORTER_FM_BG.EXE"
    $       BTS "SYS$LOGIN:MCC_EXPORT.RDB"
    %MCC-E-ALERT_TERMREQ, thread termination requested
      SYSTEM       job terminated at  1-FEB-1991 13:16:19.21
    
      Accounting information:
      Buffered I/O count:          214      Peak working set size:  2587
      Direct I/O count:            126      Peak page file size:    8111
      Page faults:                1496      Mounted volumes:           0
      Charged CPU time:     0 00:00:05.25   Elapsed time:     0 00:00:23.57
    
    
    I've tried rebooting, & taking down all unnecessary processes. From
    what I can remember, the only thing I changed between the time the
    first batch job ran normally with a full export cycle and now was a
    DTR symbol definition and a logical assignment in the
    SYSTARTUP_V5.COM file so that the reports package can use Datatrieve
    in command mode (vs DECwindows):

        $ DEFINE/SYSTEM DTR$NOWINDOWS TRUE
        $ dtr:==DATATRIEVE/INTERFACE=CHAR
    
    BTW, I mentioned in -.6 that I'm running rdb V3.1A...

    ...help....again...
621.10A recipe for EXPORTING and REPORTSNOATAK::TIMMERMANJim TimmermanMon Feb 11 1991 18:45172

    I have been working offline with Sam Shmuylovich and Bob Merrifield who
    have patiently guided me through understanding EXPORTING to the point
    where I finally understand it and can use it.  To potentially save them
    some repeat grief, I am documenting the steps I took to get through a
    successful exporting and report generation iteration.  This recipe
    hopefully will expose common mistakes that lots of people make as I did.
    The commands I include below are **verbatim** what I typed.  You should
    only need to edit them for your particular parameters like time or
    particular entity specification.  

    The following addresses only EXPORTING for *FUTURE* attributes, and
    REPORTING on same; * NOT * RECORDING, HISTORIAN, PERFORMANCE, ALARMS etc.

    It is assumed that the reports setup procedures have been executed per
    the release notes starting on page 2-39.  There are very important useage
    tips included in this section as well.

    I.  First clear all exporting that might be hanging around from previous
        attempts:

    MCC> delete_exporting node4 *
    MCC> delete_exporting node4 * line *
    MCC> delete_exporting node4 * circ *

	;NOTE:  Underscores in the command directives are required  in this
	;       release !

    II. Kill off the batch jobs from previous attempts.

    $ delete/entry=xxx              

      ; xxx is a number from "show que/bat" of the job resulting from
      ; "SUBMIT/RESTART/QUE=your_que_name_for_exporting- 
      ;  /PARAMETERS=SYS$LOGIN:MCC_EXPORT.RDB -
      ;  SYS$LOGIN:MCC_EXPORTER_BACKGROUND.COM"
      ;
      ; If you haven't started such a job, then skip this step.

    III.  Then get rid of any trace of rdb fragments from previous attempts.

    ...from SYS$LOGIN:

    $ del MCC_EXPORT*.RDB;*
    $ del MCC_EXPORT*.RUJ;*
    $ del MCC_EXPORT*.SNP;*

    IV. Now, start rebuilding the exporting scenario.  First start an
        exporting batch job.  This step assumes you've created an exporting
        specific que in your SYSTARTUP_V5.COM file via something like:

    "INITIALIZE/QUEUE/START/JOB:8/BATCH/BASE_PRIORITY=3/OWNER=[SYSTEM]-
     /PROT=(S:E,O:D,G:RW,W) MCC$EXPORT"

    $ SUBMIT/QUE=MCC$EXPORT/RESTART/PARAMETERS=SYS$LOGIN:MCC_EXPORT.RDB-
       SYS$LOGIN:MCC_EXPORTER_BACKGROUND.COM

        ; The batch job should create new MCC_EXPORT.RDB, .RUJ, and .SNP 
        ; files in SYS$LOGIN.

    V.  Now issue the exporting directives for a particular set of entities.
        The commands below specify exporting for NODE, CIRC, and LINE
        entities for node NOATAK, using a 10 minute export period.  Be
        careful that the export period is not 00:00:10, which is 10 seconds !
        The exporting state will hang in SUSPENDED forever if it doesn't have
        enough time to get off a complete poll sequence.  Also, I have found
        that the polls fail if you don't specify at least 10-15 minutes.
        Otherwise you'll get lots of:

        Last poll failure reason = "schedule time passed"

        in your SHOW_EXPORTING status.

    $ MANAGE/ENT EXPORT NODE4 NOATAK END TIME = 18:00, -
      EXPORT PERIOD = 00:15:00, EXPORT TARGET = SYS$LOGIN:MCC_EXPORT.RDB

    $ MANAGE/ENT EXPORT NODE4 NOATAK CIRC QNA-0 END TIME = 18:00, -
      EXPORT PERIOD = 00:15:00, EXPORT TARGET = SYS$LOGIN:MCC_EXPORT.RDB

    $ MANAGE/ENT EXPORT NODE4 NOATAK LINE QNA-0 END TIME = 18:00, -
      EXPORT PERIOD = 00:15:00, EXPORT TARGET = SYS$LOGIN:MCC_EXPORT.RDB

        ; Above assumes you issue the directives prior to 18:00.  Start time
        ; will be default of current system time.

        ; Note: The three commands above specify exporting for 3 different
        ; entities.  The first is for NODE Noatak; 2nd for CIRC QNA-0 on node
        ; noatak; 3rd for LINE QNA-0 on node noatak.

        ; Note:  The file spec in "EXPORT TARGET = SYS$LOGIN:MCC_EXPORT.RDB"
        ; in the export directives *MUST* agree precisely with the file spec in
        ; "SUBMIT/QUE=xxxx/PARAMETERS=SYS$LOGIN:MCC_EXPORT.RDB" from step IV
        ; above.

        ; Note:  You can issue exporting directives for any number of node, line
        ; and circuit entities for the same rdb file as long as your 
        ; EXPORT TARGET specification points to SYS$LOGIN:MCC_EXPORT.RDB. 
        ; 
        ; You could also start multiple batch jobs, each with a different rdb
        ; file specification and then issue export directives with the EXPORT
        ; TARGET pointing to these particular file specs.  In order to perform
        ; reporting against these rdb files though, you'd have to make sure the
        ; DTR rdb database files unique to this export are defined per the
        ; installation notes (i.e., DTR DEFINE DATABASE MCC_EXPORT_private ON 
        ; disk:[directory]MCC_EXPORT_private.RDB). I haven't tried this last
        ; piece, so I don't know for sure if it works.


    VI. To see if your exporting is running ok, a MON PROC/TOPCPU will show
        the batch job and its subprocess running pretty heavily soon after
        issueing the above export directives.  The following MCC directive will
        show a very detailed status:

    $ manage/ent show_exporting node4 noatak export target -
      sys$login:mcc_export.rdb

    Node4 NOATAK
    AT 11-FEB-1991 10:29:11

    Exporting parameters are:
                            Exporting state = ACTIVE,
                                State since = 11-FEB-1991 10:18:01.46,
                              Export period = 0 00:08:00.00,
                                 Begin time = 11-FEB-1991 09:32:41.79,
                                   End time = 11-FEB-1991 18:00:00.00,
                              Export target = "SYS$LOGIN:MCC_EXPORT.RDB",
                               Request time = 11-FEB-1991 09:32:41.79,
                               Requested by = "SYSTEM",
               Time of last successful poll = "11-FEB-1991 10:18:14.54",
                 Number of successful polls = 1,
                   Time of last failed poll = "NONE",
                   Last poll failure reason = "N/A",
                     Number of failed polls = 0,
                           Last export time = "11-FEB-1991 10:18:14.54",
                Time of last export failure = "NONE",
                 Last export failure reason = "N/A",
                  Number of export failures = 0,
                              Sequence name = "EXPORT",
                    Initial sequence number = 0,
                    Current sequence number = 7
    
    The following 2 commands will show the same type of exporting status as
    above, but for LINE and CIRC entities.

    $ manage/ent show_exporting node4 noatak circ qna-0 -
      export target sys$login:mcc_export.rdb
    
	...

    $ manage/ent show_exporting node4 noatak line qna-0 -
      export target sys$login:mcc_export.rdb

	...

    VII. After the rdb database has the required information in it,
        MCC_RPTS.COM can be invoked to generate reports.  If the procedure
        fails while trying to invoke datatrieve (look in the
        MCC_RPTS_NODE4_xxxxxxxx_DTR.LOG files), make sure that the symbol
        "dtr" equates to a successful invocation of a command line oriented
        datatrieve session.  The latest version of datatrieve comes up as a
        decwindows session by default which is very confusing to MCC_RPTS.COM.
        You might need to define a symbol "dtr:==DATATRIEVE/INTERFACE=CHAR" 
        in your startup procedure for the MCC_RPTS.COM to work correctly. 
        Also, if you are running DECgraph 1.6, read notes TOOK::MCC:557.* in 
        order to get past a glitch with using this version of DECgraph.

    
    Other than the above contortions, this product is starting to look good
    to me.

    Good Luck !
621.11a note to the recipeTOOK::SHMUYLOVICHMon Feb 11 1991 19:4454

	Just a few comments to the .10:

>    V.  Now issue the exporting directives for a particular set of entities.
>        The commands below specify exporting for NODE, CIRC, and LINE
>        entities for node NOATAK, using a 10 minute export period.  Be
>        careful that the export period is not 00:00:10, which is 10 seconds !
>        The exporting state will hang in SUSPENDED forever if it doesn't have
>        enough time to get off a complete poll sequence.  Also, I have found
>        that the polls fail if you don't specify at least 10-15 minutes.
>        Otherwise you'll get lots of:
>
>        Last poll failure reason = "schedule time passed"
>
>        in your SHOW_EXPORTING status.


	The minimal export period depends on your system performance and the respond 
	time from the specified entity. It's recommended that this period will 
	be at least twice bigger that time required to get Show for all attribute 
	partitions. The smallest interval I successful used was 1.5 min.


>        ; Note:  The file spec in "EXPORT TARGET = SYS$LOGIN:MCC_EXPORT.RDB"
>        ; in the export directives *MUST* agree precisely with the file spec in
>        ; "SUBMIT/QUE=xxxx/PARAMETERS=SYS$LOGIN:MCC_EXPORT.RDB" from step IV
>        ; above.

	From the Exporter's release notes:

	2.11.4 Suggestions

	1.  RDB database name -- To specify RDB database name you can:

	     - use export target argument in every Export directive
	       to specify RDB file name;

	     - define logical MCC_EXP_RDB_FILE;

	     - use default RDB name SYS$LOGIN:MCC_EXPORT.RDB.

	    If export target argument is not specified Exporter tries
	    to get RDB database name from logical MCC_EXP_RDB_FILE.
	    If this logical is not defined Exporter uses
	    SYS$LOGIN:MCC_EXPORT.RDB as a RDB database name.

	As it is noted in .10 this RDB_DATABASE_NAME *MUST* agree precisely
	with the file spec in
	 "SUBMIT/QUE=xxxx/PARAMETERS=RDB_DATABASE_NAME"


	Sam 

621.12DFLAT::PLOUFFEJerryMon Feb 11 1991 20:3419
RE: .10

  Jim:

  First of all, I'm impressed with you're write-up and

  secondly, I'm depressed that the process involved is so complex.

  I hope there are plans in place to make the use of this product more
  user-friendly.  Historian and Exporter are two very valuable FMs and we
  owe it to our customers to make these functions easier to use!

  BTW, the above should not only apply to these FMs.  We owe it to ourselves 
  and to our customers to review and improve the useability of all our MMs
  (Alarms included! ;) )!!
  

                                                             - Jerry
                                                            (ex-Alarms PL)  
621.13missing Datatrieve proceduresF18::ROBERTTue Oct 01 1991 13:5910
    re:10
    Can someone tell me where I can find all the files needed to run the
    MCC_RPTS.com file that you mention in this note. I ran this file and
    it came back and said that I was missing some Datatrieve procedures.
    
    Can someone help me. I need to get some reports out from DECmcc, i.e.
    the exporting feature (I finally figured out how to use this)
    
    Thanks ahead of time Dave
    
621.14RT_MNSSG::R_SPENCENets don't fail me now...Tue Oct 01 1991 14:547
    In the DECmcc Performance Analyser Use manual there is a chapter
    near the end of the book that correctly explains how to get reports
    working. I followed the instructions and it worked fine for me.
    
    Try it.
    
    s/rob
621.15F18::ROBERTTue Oct 01 1991 18:1727
    Thanks,
    	I got to the right place, I am not a datatrieve/rdb expert.
    
    I got into datatrieve, and did a show all and got the following:
    
    Dictionaries:
            CDD$EXAMPLES    CDD$PROTOCOLS   CDD$RDB_SYSTEM_METADATA
            CDD_PLUS$EXAMPLES               DTR$LIB         DTR$USERS
    The default directory is _CDD$TOP
    No established collections.
    No ready sources.
    No loaded tables.
    
    I followed the examples in the book, and got the following:
    
    "MCC_NODE4_CIRCUIT" is not a readied source, collection, or list.
    
    "CURRENT" is not a readied source, collection, or list.
    
    Element "CIRCUIT_GRAPH" not found in dictionary.
    
    I need some enlightenment?
    
    Thanks Dave
    
    PS: is there something in datatrieve that is not setup?
    
621.16did you initialize?PARZVL::KENNEDYThis ain't no partyWed Oct 02 1991 14:236
>    PS: is there something in datatrieve that is not setup?

Sounds like it.  Did  you follow the instructions on Initializing the Reports
Package (in my book, it starts on p7-4)?

_MaryEllen
621.17ExporterF18::ROBERTFri Oct 04 1991 16:4019
Thanks Rob for the help.

Now that I have got things running ok, and exporting some information,

I have not been able to figure out a couple of things:

I got into export and am exporting some info into a data base called
stlouis.rdb - I went into a system I call SEE001, in DECmcc, and exported
some information without enabling anything in the entity, i.e. line or
circuit. I then went back into this entity and clicked on line and started
another exporting job to the same data base called stlouis, and I did the 
same for circuit, 

my ?? I do not understand how to get the information out of the database
for the line, and circuit. Am I missing something?

Thanks for the help.

Dave
621.18Use Reports packageTOOK::ANWARUDDINAnwarTue Oct 08 1991 11:1117
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I got into export and am exporting some info into a data base called
stlouis.rdb - I went into a system I call SEE001, in DECmcc, and exported
some information without enabling anything in the entity, i.e. line or
circuit. I then went back into this entity and clicked on line and started
another exporting job to the same data base called stlouis, and I did the 
same for circuit, 

my ?? I do not understand how to get the information out of the database
for the line, and circuit. Am I missing something?

>> You use the Reports package to get statistical information from
>> the RDB. The Reports Menus will help you in selecting the kind of
>> report you want. Chapter 7 in the "Performance Analyzer Function
>> Module Use Manual" explains the details.
621.19RE: .17 You can use SQLTOOK::SHMUYLOVICHTue Oct 08 1991 13:5131
    
re: .17
	In addition to the Report package you can get this data using
 SQL. For example, using interactive SQL you can do the following:

	1. SQL> declare schema filename <rdb_database_name>; -> connect you to
                                                                the specified
							        database

		where <rdb_database_name> is an "export target" argument 
		      in the Export deirective.

	2. SQL> show table <table_name>; -> shows specified table and its 
					    columns

	        where <table_name> is :
				   - MCC_NODE4 for node4;
				   - MCC_NODE4_LINE for line;
				   - MCC_NODE4_CIRCUIT for circuit;
				   - * gives you all tables .

	3. SQL> select <column> from <table_name>; -> shows a particular column
						      from the specified table.


	The above is a very simple example of the select statement.
	For more information, please, refer to VAX Rdb/VMS reference manual.


	SAm