Conference azur::mcc

	Single click  on a DECnet phase 4 node, go up to operations and
	pull down the menu, do a SHOW --> STATISTICS.

	This will invoke  the Performance analyser.  You do have to set
	a time between samples  of  data  before hand.  This was just a
	pointer to get you started.

	JCE

Hello,

I'am close to the same problem. I can work with the command line and forms
interface and the way in Re.1 is more or less clear to me, too.
But in the EFT manual you can read there should be a meuepoint in the
operation scrollbar. And there is no point like this.

So how can i find this point ?


				Roland

John,


According to the PA user guide on page 1-8 for the Iconic interface:

	1. Select Operations from task window 
	2. Select Performance Measurement from the task window
	3. Select SHOW from the Preformance Measurement menu
	4. Select Traffic of Errors from the SHOW menu

Page 1-9 shows the menus selected from the Iconic interface.

Problem is, I don't see the same thing with my system.

When I select a node4 or bridge entity with mb1 and select the Operations
menu, there is no Performance Measurement menu.

Are you saying in .1 that a time between samples has to be set before the 
Performance Menu is active?

I'm reading through the PA User guide now, and have not yet found how to 
set the sample time for this function from the iconic map.

What am I missing here?

Merlin

    The sample time for all directives can be setup by setting your
    time qualifiers. You want to set up the duration of each poll along
    with any other pieces of information, like the start or end time
    for the request. If you don't set up the time up front then a default
    will be used.
    
    You will find the menu item for this (Operation Time) under the
    operations menu.

Jill,

I've done this - still no "Performance Measurement" as per the user guide.

I've performed the following steps:

1. selected a phase IV node
2. selected Operations menu
3. seleted operations time
4. selected schedule time
5. enter start time, repeat interval, and until time
6. go back to operations menu
7. show stats, show counters, show anything
8. nothing happens until start time is reached
9. the show whatever directive activates one time after start time
10.cannot sho anything else unless I change start time to future receive msg
   "start time already past"

I've never seen the "Performance Measurement" menu pick from the Operations 
menu as shown on pg 1-9 of the user guide.

What am I missing here?

merlin

    
    Merlin,
    You're exactly right.  We'll have to resolve this tomorrow(Wednesday).
    Fred 

    
    statistics require SCOPE time not schedule time. You must set a
    scope (from the FCL PM this would be the FOR clause). The duration
    field of a scope determines for how long (over what period) that
    the stats are to be collected, which the start/every and until are
    used to determine when each new collection should start.
    
    hope that helps, sorry for not clarifing better before.
    

Merlin,
   The documentation needs to be updated.

This is what I did:

1. selected a phase IV node
2. selected Operations menu
3. seleted operations time
4. selected schedule time
      I also set up a Scope of Interest time.
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5. enter start time, repeat interval, and until time
      The only thin I had in the start time box was "NOW"
      I also entered an "Until" time (1 month later than "NOW")

6. go back to operations menu
7. show stats, show counters, show anything
8. nothing happens until start time is reached
9. the show whatever directive activates one time after start time
10.cannot sho anything else unless I change start time to future receive msg
   "start time already past"

Let me us know if you have further problems.
Fred

1. The section on Iconic Map interface in PA USE Manual needs to be updated.

2. To SHOW STATISTICS from the iconic map interface:

	* SELECT AN ENTITY.

	* SELECT SCHEDULE TIME. Required to schedule SHOWs every so often
	  until some future time. 
	  
		- From the Operations Time menu, go to Schedule time.

		- Select Start time. Click on Add.

		- Select Repeat interval

		- Select Until time

		- Click OK

	* SELECT DURATION (Scope of Interest time). This specifies the
	  interval over which to sample counters. 
	  The scope of interest time also has `start time', 'until time' 
	  and `repeat interval'. You specify these for SHOWing past time 
	  statistics only. `Duration' has to be specified for both past 
	  time and future time statistics.

		- Go to Operations Time menu again. Select Scope of Interest 
		  time.

		- Click on Relative

		- Select Duration 

		- Click OK

	* SELECT SHOW STATISTICS. From the Operations Menu, select SHOW 
	  statistics

	* CLICK OK

re. .8 & .9

>>1. The section on Iconic Map interface in PA USE Manual needs to be updated.


Does this mean that there is no Performance Measurement menu pick as per the 
documentation?

Is The SHOW STATISTICS directive under the Operations menu the directive that
uses the PA FM?

Mgc