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Title:	DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:	Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:	TAEC::BEROUD

Created:	Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:	Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	6497
Total number of notes:	27359

315.0. "What Privs are needed?" by NSSG::R_SPENCE (Nets don't fail me now...) Mon Sep 10 1990 15:35

    I was looking for info on exact privs required for use of DECmcc
    Director and didn't see a subjet in the table of contents of any
    of the several manuals that I looked through. I admit that I may have
    missed the info and if so, just point me at it.
    
    However, it seems to me that each of several modules are likely to
    have their own specific requirements so I would like to propose that
    there should be a topic in the "DECmcc USE" manual as well as one in
    each of the AM Use manuals. The example I discovered was that the
    Bridge AM required a different priv than the Node4 AM. If the
    requirements for each new module (even if the topic says
     "No requirements" ) were made clear it would help reduce the number
    of problems people have as a result of incorrect privs and also reduce
    the tendency to run will ALL privs cause you don't know which ones are
    needed.
    
    Thanks for listening.
    
    s/rob

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
315.1	in DECmcc Use under Maintaining Security	GOSTE::CALLANDER		`Mon Sep 10 1990 16:11`	22
	Hope this helps. In the DECmcc Use manual there is a section called "Maintaining Security". In this section it explains, and lists the files used by DECmcc and their default/installation privileges. It also explains the fact that different entity classes (devices) require other additional privileges to run. It does NOT list what these are but points to the other documentation. The DECmcc use manual also explains the sue of the BY qualifier and how proxies can be used to provide additional privileges to a session or a specific command. (Though note, it does list those privs required for phaseIV and bridge management). In regards to finding it in the other use manuals...I didn't have too much luck either. I have brought this to the attention of the AM developers, I will also send a note off to the writers regarding this. Thanks
315.2	Yup	WORDY::JONG	Steve Jong/T and N Pubs	`Mon Sep 10 1990 16:59`	11
	_DECmcc Use_ covers security in Chapter 2 in both the V1.0 and V1.1 versions. In the V1.1 version, it's "Maintaining Security" (pp. 2-12 to 2-13). _DECmcc DECnet Phase IV Access Module Use_ covers security in a topic called "Privilege Requirements, Access Control, Restrictions" in Chapter 1. The Bridge and Ethernet AM _Use_ documents don't seem to have an explicit treatment. You're right there. I would say that is an oversight which should be corrected.
315.3		NSSG::R_SPENCE	Nets don't fail me now...	`Mon Sep 10 1990 18:34`	14
	Thanks folks. I think it would a great help to the users and managers of MCC systems in the field if some text like "Privilege Requirements" could always be found in the TOC even if the actual coverage is in a major heading as in the USE guide. When you are tying to figure out (as I did for many hours last week) why something isn't working, it may not be intuitive to look under "Security" as a heading. BTW, I did try the "Troubleshooting" section but it didn't help. s/rob
315.4	Oops...	WLYWLD::BRIENEN	Chris Brienen - DECmcc (non-DECnet) AMs	`Mon Sep 10 1990 20:26`	8
	Agreed. Bridge AM Use and Ethernet AM Use (as well as the OnLine Help for Bridge and Station) do not mention required privileges. Mention is made of required privileges in the BMS Release Notes. We'll have to fix this for V1.1.