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Title:DECmcc user notes file. Does not replace IPMT.
Notice:Use IPMT for problems. Newsletter location in note 6187
Moderator:TAEC::BEROUD
Created:Mon Aug 21 1989
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:6497
Total number of notes:27359

293.0. "What is DECmcc currently used for ?" by RC30::WATSON (When the going gets weird...) Thu Aug 30 1990 15:02

    Would anyone who is currently using (or developing) a system that uses
    DECmcc, or is evaluating DECmcc for use in something, write a brief note
    on how it will be used and for what ?

    I'm looking at it at the moment trying to decide if a management tool we
    need to write could be done using MCC and am finding it hard going to
    say the least.

    Some views from people who have used it would help.

    One of the things we have to do is to maintain a DNS namespace. Would I be
    correct in thinking that MCC is not a good tool if the 'thing' you are 
    managing has free-format attributes and free-format (read 'user defined')
    names for its components ?

Ross
FSG Reading
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293.1Alarms is very usefulENUF::GASSMANThu Aug 30 1990 21:516
    The best task to use the director for is as a watch dog for parameters
    that can be seen thru an AM.  With the DCL procedure usage out of 
    a fired alarm, you can do just about anything, including commands
    back into the director.  
    
    bill
293.2VANDAL::LOVELLSat Sep 01 1990 21:1018
Ross,

	The EIC in Newbury are seriously considering DECmcc as the director
for an integrated management tool to several standard VMS layered products,
configured in a high-volume, distributed fashion.  I think that the actual
people cutting code probably have the same "hard-going" evaluation as 
yourself.  Despite that there's a conviction that it is an approach that
is sitting on top of the right architecture to succeed eventually.

You can stick anything in DNS (not sure how it's encoded though).  DECmcc
is possibly not the best way to manipulate it.  Unless it is truly "reference"
information, then it is arguable whether it should reside in DNS space.  Store 
basic network attributes and get any other attributes direct from the managed
object if possible.

/Chris
Corporate and Industry Network Services

293.3GOSTE::CALLANDERTue Sep 04 1990 21:0815
    Ross,
    
    If you want more information a direct phone conversation might help
    get you going a bit quicker. There are many groups working on different
    types of components, some in the mcc devlopement group and others
    around the company and outside it.  Depending upon what you looking
    for a good starting point might be some one like John Egolf or Mark
    Hebenstreit (two of our managers), who can put you in touch with
    the appropriate people.
    
    As to "free-format" attributes, the usefulness of MCC in this spaces
    is very much dependent upon your definition of "free-format".
    
    
    
293.4Someone i Can talk to???SIEVAX::MIDONAAlan Midona, SIE Reading, DTN 830 3996Wed Oct 03 1990 10:2316
	Hello,

	As Ross said in his base note, we are currently looking into 
	the possibility of using DECmcc as the management tool for
	DECbank.  However, time-to-market has become the critical 
	issue for us and we have some serious concerns about how long 
	it would take us to develop a DECbank AM. So...

	Is there anyone in the UK who has actual experience of developing
	an Access Module for DECmcc who wouldn't mind spending an hour or
	so answering some of my question and stepping me thouth the AM
	development process?

	Thank in advance,

	Alan  
293.5INFO - check into the design frameworkGOSTE::CALLANDERThu Oct 04 1990 16:2020
    Alan,
    
    I would like you to note something when doing your anaylsis. Most
    of the AM's to date were started prior to the release of the design
    framework. This is now available, and will pretty much do all the
    tedium of MCC setup for you. It will give you the shell (of an AM)
    into which you can place your decbank intelligence. 
    
    I would suggest that you try to find some one who has used it. The
    feedback we have received is quite positive. It supposedly (since
    my devolopement preceded it, I haven't used it) cuts developement
    down significantly. The toolkit Guide to Programming an MM walks
    you through the modifications and extensions you need to make in
    a step by step fashion. You should pick up a copy of it an give
    it a quick once over as well.
    
    /jill