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Conference allvax::pro_engineer

Title:Pro/ENGINEER Conference
Notice:Do a DIR/TITLE before writing a new note
Moderator:ALLVAX::SYSTEM
Created:Fri Oct 07 1988
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:426
Total number of notes:1446

413.0. "Kauai hangs with Pro/E & AccelPRO 2000" by OSLLAV::JENSH (Jens Holwech, SI Technology Group, Norway (DTN 872-8543)) Thu Feb 06 1997 20:14

A customer and a PTC AE has seen similar problems as 
those discussed in 408.*, but this is on a PWS 200i.
This is reproducable through the attached trail file,
and a few additional commands. According to the 
customer, the problem is often seen when more than
one window is in use. The problem only occurs with
the OpenGL driver for the AccelPRO 2000. The customer
was running NT 3.51, using version 3.2.1 (and earlier)
of the driver. I could also reproduce this on NT 4.0, 
using the 4.1 (and earlier) drivers. This problem was 
not visible on a Miata, using physically the same 
graphics card, with the 4.1.03 driver. I could also
not reproduce this on an HP Vectra XW with AccelPRO
2500TX, under NT 4.0, using the 4.1 drivers. I know
that the problem was evident with Pro/E 17 9647, and
I believe it was also visible on 9639.

The trail file uses two of the standard Pro/E demo 
directories, hset17 and mfgintro17. The trail file
assumes that these directories are available under
C:\PTC\DEMO. Once the trail file completes, select
"retrieve", hit return to use the default part, and
the machine usually hangs. I've seen instances where
this did not hang the system. Going into "spin" mode
was then sufficient to create the hang.

The trail file is in .1.

Regards,
Jens
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413.1Trail file for reproducing the hangOSLLAV::JENSHJens Holwech, SI Technology Group, Norway (DTN 872-8543)Thu Feb 06 1997 20:15784
!trail file version No. 940
!Pro/ENGINEER  TM  Release 17.0  (c) 1988-96 by Parametric Technology Corporation  All
Rights Reserved.
!Select a menu item.
#ENVIRONMENT
#DISP DTMPLN
!Datum planes will NOT be displayed.
#DISP POINTS
!Datum points will NOT be displayed.
#DISPPNTTAGS
!Datum point tags will not be displayed.
#DISP AXES
!Axes will not be displayed.
#DISP CSYS
!Coordinate Systems will not be displayed.
#SPIN CENTER
!Spin Center will not be displayed.
#SAVE DISP
!Display will not be saved with model.
#SKETSTART2D
!Sketcher will not change orientation upon starting.
#KEEPINFODTM
!Datum features created during Info will not be added to the model.
#MODEL TREE
!Model tree window will not be displayed.
#SHADING
!Shaded model will be displayed
#DONE-RETURN
#MISC
#CHANGE DIR
!Enter NEW DIRECTORY name: 
?
!Directory searched is: C:\PTC\bin
#UP..
!Directory searched is: C:\PTC
#/demo
!Directory searched is: C:\PTC\demo
#/hset17
!Directory searched is: C:\PTC\demo\hset17
#HERE
!Successfully changed to C:\PTC\demo\hset17\ directory.
#DONE-RETURN
#DRAWING
#SEARCH/RETR
!Directory searched is: C:\PTC\demo\hset17
#/asm_dir
!Directory searched is: C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir
#UP..
!Directory searched is: C:\PTC\demo\hset17
#/mfg
!Directory searched is: C:\PTC\demo\hset17\mfg
#UP..
!Directory searched is: C:\PTC\demo\hset17
#/misc_dir
!Directory searched is: C:\PTC\demo\hset17\misc_dir
#UP..
!Directory searched is: C:\PTC\demo\hset17
#/udf
!Directory searched is: C:\PTC\demo\hset17\udf
#UP..
!Directory searched is: C:\PTC\demo\hset17
#UP..
!Directory searched is: C:\PTC\demo
#/mfgintro17
!Directory searched is: C:\PTC\demo\mfgintro17
#drill_core_fixture.drw
!30-Jan-97 13:27:24  Start C:\PTC\demo\mfgintro17\drill_core_fixture.drw.1
!30-Jan-97 13:27:25  Start C:\PTC\demo\mfgintro17\HOUSING_CORE_MFG.asm
!30-Jan-97 13:27:27  Start C:\PTC\demo\mfgintro17\HOUSING_CORE.prt
!Restoring family table instances of HOUSING_CORE from family table file.
!30-Jan-97 13:27:29  End   C:\PTC\demo\mfgintro17\HOUSING_CORE.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:27:29  Start C:\PTC\demo\mfgintro17\CORE_WORK.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:27:33  End   C:\PTC\demo\mfgintro17\CORE_WORK.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:27:33  Start C:\PTC\demo\mfgintro17\VISE.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:27:33  End   C:\PTC\demo\mfgintro17\VISE.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:27:33  Start C:\PTC\demo\mfgintro17\BASE.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:27:37  End   C:\PTC\demo\mfgintro17\BASE.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:27:37  End   C:\PTC\demo\mfgintro17\HOUSING_CORE_MFG.asm
!30-Jan-97 13:27:37  Start C:\PTC\demo\mfgintro17\CSIZE.frm
!30-Jan-97 13:27:38  End   C:\PTC\demo\mfgintro17\CSIZE.frm
!30-Jan-97 13:27:38  End   C:\PTC\demo\mfgintro17\drill_core_fixture.drw.1
#MODE
#ASSEMBLY
#SEARCH/RETR
!Directory searched is: C:\PTC\demo\hset17
#/asm_dir
!Directory searched is: C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir
#head_set.asm
!30-Jan-97 13:27:57  Start C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\head_set.asm.1
!30-Jan-97 13:27:58  Start C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\ASM_HOUSING.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:27:59  End   C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\ASM_HOUSING.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:27:59  Start C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\BATTERY.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:27:59  End   C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\BATTERY.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:27:59  Start C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\FIN_BOARD.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:28:00  End   C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\FIN_BOARD.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:28:00  Start C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\OPAMP_M.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:28:00  End   C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\OPAMP_M.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:28:00  Start C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\PTC_CONN3.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:28:00  End   C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\PTC_CONN3.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:28:00  Start C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\RCR07_M.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:28:00  End   C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\RCR07_M.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:28:00  Start C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\RCR32_M.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:28:00  End   C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\RCR32_M.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:28:00  Start C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\PTC_RES150.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:28:01  End   C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\PTC_RES150.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:28:01  Start C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\MIXER_M.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:28:01  End   C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\MIXER_M.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:28:01  Start C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\PTC_DIP16.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:28:02  End   C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\PTC_DIP16.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:28:02  Start C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\PTC_STD128.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:28:02  End   C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\PTC_STD128.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:28:02  Start C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\WAVE_PLUG.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:28:03  End   C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\WAVE_PLUG.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:28:03  Start C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\KNOB.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:28:03  End   C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\KNOB.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:28:03  Start C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\SPRING.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:28:04  End   C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\SPRING.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:28:04  Start C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\ANTENNA.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:28:05  End   C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\ANTENNA.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:28:05  Start C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\EAR_PIECE.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:28:06  End   C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\EAR_PIECE.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:28:06  Start C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\EAR_SEAL.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:28:06  End   C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\EAR_SEAL.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:28:06  Start C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\BRIDGE.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:28:07  End   C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\BRIDGE.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:28:07  Start C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\MICROPHONE.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:28:07  End   C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\MICROPHONE.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:28:07  Start C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\EAR_PEICE_R.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:28:07  End   C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\EAR_PEICE_R.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:28:09  End   C:\PTC\demo\hset17\asm_dir\head_set.asm.1
!Processing model HEAD_SET ...
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#QUIT WINDOW
#PART
#SEARCH/RETR
!Directory searched is: C:\PTC\demo\hset17
#housing.prt
!30-Jan-97 13:28:41  Start C:\PTC\demo\hset17\housing.prt.1
!Regeneration completed successfully.
!30-Jan-97 13:28:41  End   C:\PTC\demo\hset17\housing.prt.1
!Processing model HOUSING ...
#QUIT WINDOW
#PART
#SEARCH/RETR
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#mfg_stock.prt
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413.3swap boards between Kaui and VectraHYDRA::DONSBACHJeff Donsbach, Software Partner Engineering, DTN 297-6862Fri Feb 07 1997 16:447
    
    Did you try swapping graphics boards and drivers between the Kaui and
    the HP Vectra? Might be worth a try to narrow it down to a problem
    AccelGraphics would own.
    
    -Jeff
413.4ALLVAX::STAATST is for ToddFri Feb 07 1997 18:086
    it was my impression that the driver on the 
    
    http://www.service.digital.com page referred to in .2
    was for Alpha NT only, not for the intel based 200i?
    
    todd///
413.5phooeyWRKSYS::CHALTASSex, Drugs & OperaFri Feb 07 1997 19:453
    Crud -- Todd is right -- I've deleted the note.
    
    George
413.6HP ok, PWSi notOSLLAV::JENSHJens Holwech, SI Technology Group, Norway (DTN 872-8543)Wed Feb 12 1997 09:1216
Re. .3:

The initial comparison with the HP Vectra was done in PTC's booth
at a trade show: not the ideal place to start switching cards...

Now I've tried it, and we're still the bad guys. The functioning 
AccelPRO 2500TX from the Vectra machine reliably duplicates
the original hangs on the Kauai. I was unable to try the AccelPRO
2000 under NT 4.0 in the Vectra, but it works ok with 3.51 (not
identical drivers, though). I don't care too much about 3.51, but
I sure would like this problem to go away for 4.0.

Should I let MCS submit an official bug-report for this?

Regards,
Jens
413.7try this new driverHYDRA::DONSBACHJeff Donsbach, Software Partner Engineering, DTN 297-6862Wed Feb 12 1997 17:039
    
    There is an Intel 4.1.10 driver for NT 4.0 Intel at
    www.service.digital.com.
    
    Get that and then try it. Supposedly, the 4.1.10 driver fixes some
    PCI bus timing issues that may be unique to Kauai.
    
    -Jeff
413.8New driver fixes issue!OSLLAV::JENSHJens Holwech, SI Technology Group, Norway (DTN 872-8543)Fri Feb 14 1997 08:4512
Re .7:

Yes, this driver fixes the problem, along with similar symptoms seen
when defining colors.

I just learned that PTC are still promoting NT 3.51 as a "more stable
platform" than 4.0. The reason is that they've had some problems with 
PDM access using 4.0. Sorry, I don't have any details on this. Is 
this a familiar statement, or should I probe further into the 
specifics?

Jens
413.9a likely story...HYDRA::DONSBACHJeff Donsbach, Software Partner Engineering, DTN 297-6862Mon Feb 17 1997 20:1213
 >   I just learned that PTC are still promoting NT 3.51 as a "more stable
 >   platform" than 4.0. The reason is that they've had some problems with
 >   PDM access using 4.0. Sorry, I don't have any details on this. Is
 >   this a familiar statement, or should I probe further into the
 >   specifics?
    
    I hadn't heard this, but it wouldn't surprise me. PTC is very
    conservative about recommending new OS's, compilers, etc.
    Though, if there are THAT many problems, I don't think they should
    have certified NT 4.0! (IMHO)
    
    -Jeff D.