Conference diver1::boston_bruins

    This is a HUGE game....right Toby?
    
    Ottawa needs the two points and you guys would rather have a decent
    draft pick so lets all hope for a Senators' win ;-)
    
    Have a good weekend,
    
    Bernie.

    So Toby, what's it gonna be; a case of 2-4 or Joe Thornton.
    
    Your call. :*)
    
    Andy

    	Go Ottawa!!! 
    
    Barry
    

    	Did anybody watch this game? Does anybody know the outcome at
    least? I was busy all day Saturday and never got to watch the game or
    the replay. I never even got to see the paper yesterday. Did they lose?
    
    Barry
    

Yes they lost. 5-4 the final.
To the bottom. The very bottom.

George

    The Bruins were down 5 - 2 early in the third period but almost tied the 
    game up.  
    
    The Bruins were awarded a penalty shot but Tugnutt made the
    save.  I don't know who took the shot.
    
    I didn't see the game but from all accounts it looks like Tugnutt
    stole the game for Ottawa.  
    
    Bourque didn't play.  Carey was pulled after the second period.
    
    Bernie.

    
    saddest part about this is that even with the Bruins losing virtually 
    every game they play they are still not in LAST !!! How bad is San
    Jose?  Do you think they are tanking every game too! 
                                               

    Noone has mentioned the article in Sunday's Globe. Long interview
    with Sinden. Worst news: O'Connell is slated to replace Sinden someday!
    Yecch!  Harry plans on working a few more years, and then Mike O
    is next at bat.
    
    Meanwhile, Harry said (again) he's under no $$ constraints, BUT,
    then he goes on to say: Poulin wanted too much money, Dave Reid
    wanted too long a contract, their main scouting guy (scooped up
    by Milbury in NYI) wanted too much $$, Galley wanted too much $$$.
    What a joke. 
    
    Also, Galley says guys around the league don't want to come here,
    are afraid of the turmoil, espcially the Oates trade, and
    the Neely/Stevens benching. (I knew that'd come back to haunt the
    team, and it has, more than once!)
    
    Don't get your hopes up for a Cup anytime soon!

    
    Sinden has been saying sine the Milbury days (just another year or 2)
    then he'll retire. I honestly think that is why Milbury left. 
    He realized that Sinden was never going to step down and let him have 
    control. Since Milbury grew a spine he split town... Now he's got 
    virtual control of the NYI. Good move for him. As for OConnell, well 
    he's a big baby in diapers... He was when he played and he still is. 
    He will have no problem with Uncle Harry staying around forever.. 
    OConnell likes it that way... this way he doesn't have all the
    pressure. 
    
    The only way to have hope is to see someone come in and buy this team 
    then kick all the management out on their fanny. 
    
    Rp
    

    Ron,
    	
    	Think back to Business 101. Why are you going to sell a business
    that nets you $14 Million/year? 8-) If I had a business like that I'd
    hang onto it for as long as I could.
    
    Barry
    

>    He realized that Sinden was never going to step down and let him have 
>    control.

>    He will have no problem with Uncle Harry staying around forever.. 
>    OConnell likes it that way... this way he doesn't have all the
>    pressure. 
    

   Ron - how long have you been reading minds...... it's good to see that
   someone has figured it all out. You know what each of the top brass are
   thinking and at all times - you truly are gifted.    

   Can you tell us, in your infinite wisdom, what moves the B's need to make
   to have positive change? Side note, can you tell me what I'm thinking ???
   Better yet, WHAT THE HELL IS MY WIFE THINKING WHEN SHE STAYS ON THE PHONE
   FOR HOURS AT A TIME AND I RECEIVE PHONE BILLS THAT TOTAL $160.00 A MONTH !

   Sorry, had to let out some steam......



_sbn

>   Better yet, WHAT THE HELL IS MY WIFE THINKING WHEN SHE STAYS ON 
THE PHONE
>   FOR HOURS AT A TIME AND I RECEIVE PHONE BILLS THAT TOTAL $160.00 
A MONTH !
> 
>   Sorry, had to let out some steam......

That you love her dearly.

George

	Great article in the Globe on sunday!  Gotta wonder about Harry.  
	This money thing is ridiculous.  Besides the list someone else
	posted, there's also Ray Bourque's arbitration case.  If $ was not
	an issue, why the beef with Bourque ?  

	So Harry likes the team he has now. Great. We're in 2nd to last place.

	Send in those votes for Adam Oates 7th player award!!

	/Ken

>	there's also Ray Bourque's arbitration case.  If $ was not
>	an issue, why the beef with Bourque ?  

   Do you really think that Bourque, at/near the end of his career, deserved
   whatever his agent wanted for him?  If that's the logic, let the players
   call out their salary wants and the owners should pay them.

>	So Harry likes the team he has now. Great. We're in 2nd to last place.

   I've never heard Harry state that he likes this Team in its present form.
   He has acknowledged that mistakes were made and the club isn't where he 
   thought it would be. I'm not a Harry supporter, but let's not make comments
   that are exaggerated. 

   I'd like to see Harry retire *but* then we would have Mike O. taking over, 
   which is the lesser of the two evils???


_sbn

Tough crowd!

>>	there's also Ray Bourque's arbitration case.  If $ was not
>>	an issue, why the beef with Bourque ?  
>
>   Do you really think that Bourque, at/near the end of his career, deserved
>   whatever his agent wanted for him?  If that's the logic, let the players
>   call out their salary wants and the owners should pay them.

No.  My point was simply that Harry Sinden is a cheap bastard.  Hey, I don't
like the price of gas either, but I want my car to move and I want performance.

>>	So Harry likes the team he has now. Great. We're in 2nd to last place.
>
>   I've never heard Harry state that he likes this Team in its present form.
>   He has acknowledged that mistakes were made and the club isn't where he 
>   thought it would be. I'm not a Harry supporter, but let's not make comments
>   that are exaggerated. 

Well, I read this quote recently and almost coughed up a meatball when I did.
No exaggeration.  We are a shitty team.  What did we have, 2 shots on net in
the 2nd last nite ?  Geez!

>   I'd like to see Harry retire *but* then we would have Mike O. taking over, 
>   which is the lesser of the two evils???

I agree with ya on this one.  But at least O'Connell won't last (IMHO).

/Ken

>Tough crowd!

   Not really - just tired of reading what people think people are thinking 
   and doing. I agree Sinden has not done a good job as GM - but I do not 
   think he is satisfied. I'm sure he recognizes their position in the 
   standings and NO ONE in this file knows what happens in the locker room 
   or in the meetings that occur between upper management. So why speculate...

   It reminds me of listening to Bob Ryan.

  
_sbn

    What I find ironic in all this discussion about how cheap Sinden and
    the B's owners are, is that the Bruins have the highest average ticket
    price in all North American pro sports...Something's just not right
    when you put the two together...
    
    Ray.
    

    
    
    Ray - The Raiders ticket price is higher on average....
    
    ....not that it's of any condolence.

    Chris,
    
    	If your talking about the Digital raiders Hockey team, then that
    would make sense!!:*))
    
    Ray.
    

    
    
     Barry, We should just shut the conference down... We can't talk about 
    or waste time speculating what goes through the minds of people in the 
    B's organization because _sbn is tired of reading it. We should listen 
    to _sbn because we know one thing for sure.... If steve's wife is on 
    the phone for hours it's because she's tired of listening to him *AND*
    everyone including little _sbn needs someone to care about them. 
    
     You know so far Steve you have said - 1. Don't speculate about what the
    B's management is doing or saying because we aren't in the meetings 
    and we don't see all of the data that decisions are being made with. 
    2. Only believe less than half of what you see or read from the press.
    3. You can't listen to the players because they are all spoiled and only 
    thinking about themselves.  4. Don't say anything about the B's owners 
    because they are in it for the business and we don't have access to their 
    books so we can't possibly be in a position to make judgements on their 
    financial situations or decisions. 5. We shouldn't speculate or judge 
    trades until some period of time after a player trade is made because we 
    don't know all the details around why and how players X,Y,Z were involved 
    in trades. 6. The list goes on....
    
    I know I have para-phrased but I think I'm accurate on your stand on 
    each of these discussion points. I guess with all this going on fans are 
    just supposed to enjoy what they put out on the ice for us to watch and 
    have blind faith that the people in those positions are doing what they 
    can and it will be the luck of the draw that makes teams better or
    worse in the future. 
    
    
     Rp
     
    
     

    Ron,
    
    	I ain't shuttin' down. I get too many laughs out of it. So tell me
    anyway, what did you really think of the Juneau trade. 8-)
    
    Barry
    

    Neff,
    	Speaking of your wife on the phone. Tell her to stop calling,
    will ya!!!! ;*))))
    
    
    Andy

>    just supposed to enjoy what they put out on the ice for us to watch and 
>    have blind faith that the people in those positions are doing what they 
>    can and it will be the luck of the draw that makes teams better or
>    worse in the future. 
    
   No Ron...... that's not what I'm saying. I think it would serve this file
   better if we discussed areas of improvement (ie. trades, free agents and
   draft choices). Not the drinking problems of Harry and the thoughts of
   the rest of B's management, along with harping on past trades.
   

_sbn   
     

    
    
    Bernie,
    
    		just what type of Sammy's do you want anyways? 8-)
    don't worry about me having to pay duty on *MY* beer for the \
    weekend  8-)  
    
    
    re the last few,
    
    you can tell how sucky the B's are just by reading this file.
    i.e. it has taken on an off-season flavour... agruments about
    nothing important.
    
    
    
    Toby

    Toby,
    
    You just never know, so I'll hold off on claiming victory until
    the mathematics are right.  With any luck, that will be Wednesday ;-)
    
    Bernie.