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Conference diver1::boston_bruins

Title:Boston_bruins 1996-97 Season
Moderator:DIVER1::MACHADO
Created:Sat Sep 07 1996
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:175
Total number of notes:1602

171.0. "1997 Entry Draft" by PATE::NEFF (Stained Roast Beef Curtains) Fri Apr 25 1997 17:30

   I'm looking for opinions on this kid from the WHL(Seattle), Patrick Marleau.

   Has anyone seen him play? Is he a 'possible' pick for the B's in the 
   draft this year? Is he better than Thorton?

   I looked him up on the WEB and didn't see much - any thoughts??????



_sbn




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171.1KAOFS::WATTERSFri Apr 25 1997 19:588
    Steve,
    	Thornton's the man. Marleau? He sure has racked up the points
    in the WHL. Got a bunch in the playoffs too but his team was out 
    in 5.
    
    But who cares; B's can't say no to Thornton
    
    Andy
171.2just thinking.....PATE::NEFFStained Roast Beef CurtainsFri Apr 25 1997 20:3213
    Andy - I read an article in the Boston Globe, the kid the B's just
    signed (Aitkins) made a comment that Patrick Marleau was a better
    player than Thorton - and the B's should forget about going after Thorton.
    He claimed that the only reason Marleau doesn't get the press is that he 
    doesn't play in the OHL. 

    I've been trying to find a scouting report on him........ but haven't
    found one yet. 



_sbn
171.3SNAX::ERICKSONFri Apr 25 1997 21:165
    
    	Do the B's have Hartford's pick this year? If so I wonder if
    Marleau would slip that far?
    
    Ron E.
171.4KAOFS::WATTERSFri Apr 25 1997 21:198
    Marleau is rated #2 by the Central Scouting Bureau.
    Samsonov, who was rated #1 and/or #2 back in the Fall, is now 5th
    or 6th.
    
    Remember, this year, and the next, are suppose to be EXCELLENT draft
    years. Unlike last year where even the top 3 stunk.
    
    Andy
171.5B's get the #1 pick!ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Mon May 12 1997 11:509
    ...sooo, da B's get the #1 pick...what will Pinhead-Sinden do now?  
    At least the B's are in the driver's seat now....they can (hopefully)
    sign Thornton and the #8 pick, get a new coach, and start building...or
    they can trade him for 4-5 players, and build quickly....many teams
    will be contacting Sinden about this scenario, mark my words (of
    course, I wanted Parker as coach...but I digress)....at least there's
    light at the end of the tunnel...
    
    mac
171.6lottery blown off by FOX...AFW4::LACAVAMon May 12 1997 15:497
    yeah...what happened to televising the lottery live between periods 1
    and 2 of the Devils/Rangers game on FOX ???  They announced it would be
    shown earlier in the day and in the papers.  Then they never even
    mentioned it during the telecast and we had to watch Roenick and some
    other clowns re-enact some crease violations.  What the hell was that? 
    I was looking forward to watching the B's get the pingpong ball picked
    for first....oh well
171.7SNAX::ERICKSONMon May 12 1997 15:507
    
    	I can see the arguments in here 5 years from now. EVERYONE has
    Thornton rated #1, and Marleau rated #2. The B's will take Thornton
    with the #1 pick. If Marleau turns out to be a better player in 5
    years. Everyone will be saying Harry took the wrong player.
    
    Ron
171.8What will harry do...STAR::DEAN_GMon May 12 1997 15:519
I heard this morning that Sinden said that they need a goalie, so thorton is
not a definite pick for the Bruins.  Some Goalie from the Quebec league has
been rated #1 goalie for most if not all of the season. (I forgot his name.)

Harry said that the bruins need goaltending to be improved???  I think they
need everything improved.

Dean
171.9KOOLIT::R_PLOURDEMon May 12 1997 16:5723
    
    I could see Harry maybe saying that about the goalie situation 
    more to get GM's calling about a trade to include a goalie in any 
    trade packages. 
    
    I would still be very surprised if Harry doesn't pick Thornton. 
    
    If Harry sits tight He'll get the Thornton and a highly rated D Man 
    2 things he needs more than a replacement for Carey. Who was/is still 
    supposed to be much better than he showed B's fans end of last season. 
    
    I wonder if Sinden & Milbury would consider trading picks?
    Milbury has 4th & 5th overall.  
    
    Would you do it is the next question ?
    
    Of course it will never happen because they hate each other but what
    would you do ? 
    
    Rp 
    
    
    
171.10KAOFS::MCCANNMon May 12 1997 17:049
      The goalie's name is Robert Luongo and he plays for Val D'or in
    the Quebec league. He's very mobile for a big guy and he is very
    good but I don't think he should be picked 1st overall. The B's
    also have 8th pick overall. I'd wait to see if he is available then
    and try to get him if indeed Harry wants a goalie. It would be nice
    if Marleau slipped through and the B's could get him with the 8th
    pick but that's just wishful thinking I guess.
    
    Dennis 
171.111 & 8 look good 2 mePATE::NEFFStained Roast Beef CurtainsMon May 12 1997 17:3115
    ......... Everyone will be saying Harry took the wrong player.
    

   This is sooo true, any chance to blame Harry WILL HAPPEN within this
   conference. I'm sure it was Harry's fault for not signing Parker.

   Ron P. - I think it would be a huge mistake for the B's NOT to sign
   Thorton. The media would be all over Harry (and this file) if he doesn't
   do what's been written. I myself, want to see Thorton here...... I want
   the B's to build this team with young players.

   fwiw - 

_sbn

171.12they hate each other?FSCORE::B_LEURYMon May 12 1997 17:5012
    
    >>I wonder if Sinden & Milbury would consider trading picks?
    >>    Milbury has 4th & 5th overall.
    
    >>  Would you do it is the next question ?
    
    >>  Of course it will never happen because they hate each other but
    >>  what would you do ?
    
    I thought that Milbury was Sinden's son in law? No?
    
    Bernie.
171.13more....ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Mon May 12 1997 18:0514
    ...Neff, I totally agree with you..I'd LOVE to see Thornton signed,
    then see who's around in the 8th spot...get a good, reliable coach (we
    don't need a SUPERstar coach, ala Keenan)...I know I'm gonna get raked
    over the coals for this, but Barry Melrose has been hinting that he'd
    love the job, and face it, he's media-savey, the chicks would love him
    (my wife wants me to grow my hair long again...jeez, honey!), he did a
    good job with the Kings, and he's available....IMHO, obviously, but
    a choice that hasn't been bantered about yet....if the B's sign
    Thornton and a good 8th rounder, start building again, get Aitken to
    play some good "D", and get a good coach, the fans will show up
    again...
    
    mac
                  
171.14Misc. thoughtsDIVER1::MACHADOWe must surely be learningMon May 12 1997 18:3022
    >> "the media would be all over Harry (and this file)"
    
    	Why would the media be all over this file? We're just a bunch of
    wannabe hockey analysts and I don't really think that too many out
    there in the world give a rat's rump what we think. ;-)
    
    	Sorry, I couldn't resist...
    
    	In reality, do you really think that we second guess Harry wrong
    back he took Kluzak over Bellows? That's the only time when I can
    really remember the folks in here berating Harry for making the wrong
    draft choice.  If Harry thinks that he has half a chance of signing
    Thorton then I'd imagine that he'll pick him. If he doesn't think that
    he has a snowball's chance in hell of signing him that I imagine that
    he'll pick someone that he thinks he can sign. Twice Harry has had a
    top notch goalie in Ranford and he let him go. Now he's saying that
    this team has goaltending problems? It's a problem that he himself
    created. I'd take a wait and see attitude before I condemn Carey. Let
    him start the next season. I'd be willing to be that he'll come around.
    
    Barry
   
171.15re:-1PATE::NEFFStained Roast Beef CurtainsMon May 12 1997 18:318
>    I thought that Milbury was Sinden's son in law? No?
    

   No is right........



_sbn
171.16Roberto Luongo; a can't-miss NHL superstarKAOFS::WATTERSMon May 12 1997 20:1411
    If Luongo is still around when the B's pick again, they'd be crazy not
    to pick him. The hockey analyst in Quebec say they've never seen a
    goalie so big yet so mobile; better than Brodeur in his Jr days.
    
    Luongo was rated 6th overall 2 months ago. If you consider that the
    Isles won't draft him w/ the 4th-5th picks (they also have Fichaud/Salo)
    then he may just be available. 
    
    Marleau? If SJ doesn't pick him, then he'll be gone by the 3rd pick.
    
    Andy