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Conference 501clb::pcdoom

Title:Doom - The Game
Notice:Doom stuff - see 183 Out of HOURS Access
Moderator:BAHTAT::HILTON
Created:Wed Jun 15 1994
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:212
Total number of notes:3287

31.0. "E1M8: Phobos Anomaly" by CSOA1::BACH (They who know nothing, doubt nothing...) Wed Jun 15 1994 21:06

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31.1confused by endingDAVE::MITTONToken rings happenWed Aug 03 1994 19:4410
    Is there anything you can "do" after you step on the star transporter?
    (shareware version v1.2)   You end up somewhere in the dark and can
    shoot for a few seconds, but you always die (or do you?).
    
    Since it gives you the end of the series message, but no score, I'm a
    little unclear.  (was there any good use for the partial invisibility?)
    
    Or are you just doomed to die there?
    
    	Dave.
31.2Die, die, die....VMSNET::GHEFFSave the SoupWed Aug 03 1994 20:416
I once played a WAD file that replaced the 1st level (I'm obviously not using
the shareware version) , that gave me a BFG2000 to play with.  So for the Hell
of it, I continued on to the end-game with BFG in hand.  I STILL was unable to
do anything but die.  So I presume that all one can do there is die.  :-)

#Gary
31.3Normally, there's no way to win...LUDWIG::MMURRAYHey Frank, let me borrow your keys.Thu Aug 04 1994 10:2210
    
         Well, you can survive, provided you cheat a little. ;^)
    
         You see the thing is God Mode don't work... It gets turned off
            when you warp into the area... So, before you step on the star
            use the idbehold cheat to give yourself a light-amp and an
            invincibility... Then have fun...
    
                                                          Bye,
                                                           Mike. 
31.4KAOA00::KAOP97::SOWREYSon of WorfThu Aug 04 1994 13:0912
If you use a WAD editor, you can look at the section
you land in, and find that the floor you're stuck on
has flags to hit you with a 20% health loss for every
second you stand on it. 

All the beasties around you don't help any, of course...

AND you're trapped by uncrossable Linedefs...

Bummer of a way to end the game, eh?

Geoff
31.5when you're boredDAVE::MITTONToken rings happenTue Aug 09 1994 22:2611
    .3: Great, So I turn that stuff on, and when I get there use the
    rocket launcher to do in the baddies.  Then turn on noclipping mode
    and walk out before the invincibility wears off.
    
    If you turn on the cheat for the complete map, you find this room is
    outside the "star" walls just a little way, walk back and you can roam
    around "forever".  ;-}
    
    	Dying in that room is the only exit.
    	Dave.
    
31.6teh last level?ROMSLS::MASSONEMon Aug 22 1994 07:3912
    Is Phobos Anomaly the last level of the only mission in the shareware
    version?
    I killed the two monsters with the rocket launcher, and walking around I
    found the mechanic stair raising up after pushing the button on the
    wall.
    At the end of the stair I found a platform with a strange picture, and
    walkin on it... I always been killed.
    I think there is another level after it, but I did'n find another exit.
    What about it?
    
    Thank 
    			Andrea
31.7Secret base ??IOSG::CHEWTERMon Aug 22 1994 07:4710
    
    That is the last normal room in this episode, you may be seeing one
    room that you have yet to complete, this is probably the secret milatry
    base although I can't remember if this is in the shareware version or
    not.
    
    Dying is the only way out of this one :-(
    
    Enjoy,
      -John.
31.8FILTON::NOBLECoke(r) FiendMon Aug 22 1994 08:063
    Funny, though, isn't it?
    
    Steev_who'd_already_bought_the_upgrade....
31.9Yup, it's in the sharey....FORTY2::HOWELLJust get to the point...Mon Aug 22 1994 08:222
    The secret military base IS accessible from the 3rd level in the
    shareware version.
31.103rd level?ROMOIS::MASSONEMon Aug 22 1994 12:449
    Thank all,
    but what does it mean "IS accessible from the 3rd level" ?
    3rd level of difficoulty? I played the shareware version at 3rd level.
    I found also the secret door in the room of the right monster in which
    there is a switch for an elevator, but also coming back was useless.
    Any other hints?
    
    Thank
    			Andrea
31.11FORTY2::HOWELLWe're in the pipe... 5-5-5!Mon Aug 22 1994 13:066
    No, I mean whatever difficulty level you are playing at, level 3 of
    the 1st episode has a (secret) exit to the secret military base. Do you
    want me to tell you how to get at it ?.... I'm sure it's documented
    elsewhere in this conference, actually.......
    
    Dan
31.12ThankROMOIS::MASSONEMon Aug 22 1994 14:076
    Thank Dan
     you mean E1M3 I think.
    In E1M3 note there is no reference to that secret exit.
    May anyone help me?
    
    		Andrea
31.13Read the FAQ!KAOA09::KAOP97::SOWREYSon of WorfTue Aug 23 1994 12:179
You're probably gonna hate this... but read the FAQ
(it's in here somewhere), there's a section on secrets,
and you're going to need to know which secret to access
to get to the secret level...

Geoff

BTW - the explanation is a bit complex and nasty to 
reproduce when it's already been written down...
31.14FAQS in 54BAHTAT::HILTONBeer...now there's a temporary solutionTue Aug 23 1994 12:241
    Note 54 is FAQ note.
31.15PLAYER::WINPENNYFri Oct 28 1994 13:527
    
    How do I kill the minotaurs?
    
    I've tried everything I've got including the chainsaw just for the fun
    of it but nothing works on them.
    
    Chris
31.16FORTY2::HOWELLJust get to the point...Fri Oct 28 1994 13:5819
    I remember (oh so many years ago! - it seems) when I first came across
    this level, I did it this way (no joke!) -
    
    Came up on the lift with rocket launcher in hand, stepped forward
    (trigger doors to open) and layed into them with rockets like no-bodies
    business! Sometimes I could do it, sometime I got killed..... and the
    spectres were another thing after that....
    
    I imagine the _best_ way to do it is to get out your rocket launcher,
    and run away from them.... then turn and throw a few rockets in their
    direction. Keep side-stepping to dodge the green balls of flame they
    throw. When they look like they're getting a bit close, run behind them
    and get some distance between you, then turn around and start all over
    again....
    
    As for the spectres (invisible monsters) ? I'd clear these little
    blighters out of the way first....
    
    
31.17PLAYER::WINPENNYFri Oct 28 1994 14:577
    
    I tried the rocket launcher bit to noavail. Running away sounds like a
    good idea, I'll try that this weekend.
    
    Thanks.
    
    Chris
31.18be carefulVESSA::MICHAELSONJDedicated BUGgerFri Oct 28 1994 15:0915
I think I can also remember this level (just about) :-)

I found it important to kill all the spectres first. It's all too easy to use the
rocket launcher, and have it blowing up in your face.

Try flicking the switch which raises you to the platform, placing you in front
of the barons little rooms. DONT move forward, just move to the left with your
back to the wall to protect yourself, then use your desired weapon (I prefer the
shotgun) and wipe out ALL the spectres first.

Once done. Hit the run key and leg it to the far side leaping over the wall. Then
basically do as suggested, ie use your rocket launcher to blast the barons away,
dodging their fire (the invisibility - behind the barrels ? - is useful here).

Jonathan$getting_carried_away_with_detail
31.19OCTAVE::VIGNEAULTTrout Fishing in AmericaFri Oct 28 1994 15:1910
    
    I basically use .18's methodology.  I come up to the platform with
    the chaingun.  Blow away all the spectres first, then select the 
    rocket launcher.  Run straight ahead between the two buildings
    and keep going. Turn around real fast when you get to the point
    where the two walls intersect, and launch a few rockets to nail 
    the remaining spectres that will be running towards you.  Then
    take out the barons.
    
    Lv