Conference 501clb::pcdoom

    Yes, why should I get 1.666 again? I know you told me in person (or
    atleast somebody did!) , but I've forgotten.... what's better about it?
    
    	Cheers,
    	Dan

    (Nice version number, by the way!)

    
    DOOM2 is Doom v1.666 (havent tried these patches, but thats the version
    number when you fire up DOOM 2)
    

COPY SHUVVA::DKB0:[DOOM.MISC]DM1666RP.ZIP USER$4CK:[BOTTOM.PC]*
%SYSTEM-F-INVLOGIN, login information invalid at remote node


can we fix it please?

thanks

dave

    Since SHUVVA has been having trouble,...does anyone else have a copy of
    the patch on the net?  
    
    >>>Joe

    See note 4.l and 4.l-1
    
    Linsey

    
    
    Can the SW patch be applied to older versions (and still become DOOM
    II) or does it have to be applied to V1.666?
    
    I tried putting V1.666 on top of V1.4 and nothing seems to have
    changed. Have I done something wrong?
    
    Of course I didn't even glance at the README  8^)
    
    Jason...
    
    

    
    OK now I've read the README...
    
    The SW ZIP seems to be the full V1.666 (according to README.EXE)
    
    The SP ZIP is a patch from 1.2 to 1.666 (according to PATCHIT.BAT)
    
    There is no mention of this being DOOM II in these files, have I missed
    something?
    
    Jason...
    
    

    It's not supposed to be DOOM II !!!!
    
    You think they'd sell a game, and give a free upgrade to previous
    owners?!?!
    
    Doom 1.666 and DOOM II are the same versions of software, they are NOT
    however the same games (WADs are different, I presume?).
    
    Am I correct?
    
    Dan

    
    Let me echo some of the previous queries--"What does this
    patch correct/fix/upgrade?" It took about 15 minutes to
    apply the patch to V1.2. I then fired it up and ran thru
    some quick levels--the only effect I notice is a cool
    sound effect you now hear when you grab super armor.
    
    Anybody got a better handle on changes?
    

    
    the doom 2 docs say the doom 2 engine (v1.666) is supposed to be
    faster.
    

    
    Doom 1.666 and Doom II use the same engine (v1.666) to run the game,
    the difference between them is the wad that is provided.
    
    The 1.666 patch should only be applied to a fresh copy of 1.2, there
    have been reports of problems when installing it against other versions
    or modified wads i.e. if you've played about using Dehacked or some
    such utility.
    
    1.666 Fixes a variety of things, the majority of these are to do with
    modem / serial use (14.4 & 28.8 now supported) and the sound problems
    (AWE32 & GUS probs fixed). It seems the engine runs a little bit faster 
    than before. Other small things like a "gong" sound when you collect 
    items that count towards your items % at the end of level (So I'm told)
    Also there is now no suicide allowed in Deathmatch games and a new set
    of deathmatch rules (-altdeath) has been added - Monsters respawn after
    30 seconds, Negative frags, Suicide counts as a negative frag. Finally
    on the deathmatch front there is a -timer option to end after a
    specified time e.g. -timer 30 allows a deathmatch game of 30 seconds.
    
    Hope this clears up some points.
    
    Enjoy,
      -John. 

v1.666 will *NOT* work with some pwads.

...and since I'm currently mucking about with the Starwars and Aliens pwad
kits, it's no good for me.  I'm oh so very glad I backed up the .exe and .wad
files first.  When I get around to trying multiplayer, I'm sure I'll have to
set up a 2nd doom directory.

- jeff

The FAQ included with the patch has a list of the changes.
Read it.  That's what FAQ's are for :-).

If you want to read the FAQ without actually patching your game, just
run the patch routine in an empty directory (although it does still
require you to have >11M free...).

> If you want to read the FAQ without actually patching your game, just run
> the patch routine in an empty directory (although it does still require you
> to have >11M free...).

not really... the faq is the first thing unpacked, so you can just Ctrl-C
patchit.exe after it gives you the FAQ.


- jeff

  RE .4
  
    DOOM2 is Doom v1.666 (havent tried these patches, but thats the version
    number when you fire up DOOM 2)


This is why I was confused. I thought .4 was implying that DOOM II and V1.666 
were the same. As a later note pointed out the engine is V1.666 but the WAD is 
different.

There ya go.

Jason... 

>> If you want to read the FAQ without actually patching your game, just run
>> the patch routine in an empty directory (although it does still require you
>> to have >11M free...).

>not really... the faq is the first thing unpacked, so you can just Ctrl-C
>patchit.exe after it gives you the FAQ.

Won't work.  The patch program checks for enough free space before it will
unpack anything :-/.

    
    I installed the V1666 registered patch.  Seems okay.  I did notice
    that I now get an occasional brief pause where I never used to before.
    
    Game play does seem a bit faster with the exception of the above. The
    maximum health is now 200 instead of 199.   Also, there was a problem
    in the Central Processing level (1-6?) where one of the soldiers was
    trapped behind walls and the only way to get him was to use IDSPISPOPD.
    That seems to have been fixed also.  
    
    The gong effect sounds cool.  I noticed that they also added a new 
    mechanical sound when stairways open up.  
    
    Lv

    
    Anyone have a pointer to the DM1666RP.ZIP file other than SHUVVA?
    
    Thanks,
    Ray
    

    
    I've just restored the backup of SHUVVA to another machine, see the
    kits note for more info.
    
    Enjoy,
      -John.

    RE: .20
    
    You can find it on RANCHR::SYS$PUBLIC:
    
    Enjoy.
    
    
    /cowboy\

    
    The only real bug I've seem to have come across with 1.666 is in the
    Warrens.  I was playing in Ultra Violence mode.  There's 2 cacodemons 
    lurking inside the building in a y shaped hallway.  After killing the
    2 beasts, I went to the left on the sinking trail where the shotgun is.
    Got the shotgun, went through the wall and killed the three imps, and 
    circled back through the passage to the y hallway.  Going down the
    right side of the hallway and opening the door reveals more imps and
    another cacodemon. This is the room where I encountered the bug.  After
    killing the imps, I agressively attacked the cacodemon forcing it to
    backup.  About halfway across this room, the game crashed with some 
    message about invalid player location or something to that extent. I 
    was able to reproduce it repeatedly, even after restarting a fresh
    game.
    
                          [  ] <--- problem area
               rifle --\   /
                        \ /
                         |
                         |
                     open field
                       area
                  (start of level)
    
    Lv

re: .23

> About halfway across this room, the game crashed with some message about
> invalid player location or something to that extent. I was able to reproduce
> it repeatedly, even after restarting a fresh game.

Did you try re-installing the original Doom then the 1.666 patch?

There were similar posts on usenet stating that RUNNING (not walking) into a
certain sector of a certain level caused a similar error and crash.  Problem
was that the sector in question called another sector to do something that it
couldn't (like move).  The only way to fix that problem was to use DEU or
similar to fix the sector call -- reinstalling the original and patch didn't
help.

- jeff

    
    Yes, I reinstalled the game from scratch to confirm this problem.
    
    
    Lv

    Since I installed the patchs I can not get the T2 sounds to work.
    Do I need a newer version of DMAUD? The sounds worked fine when I
    loaded them into ver 1.2. When I load them into 1.666 I get no errors
    but when I run DOOM it still has the orig sounds.
    
    As a side note I wish people would put a warning with the sounds they
    provide to say if they use words that are a little off color (mainly 4
    letter ones). 
    
    thanks
    wade
    

    There's a WAD version of the T2 sounds on FLYTE. This works fine on
    1.666 and requires no patching up with DMAUD.
    
    I think it's
    
    	FLYTE::USER1:[ARCHIVE.DOOM.SOUNDS]T2.*
    
    Hope this helps.

      I was just talking to someone that is having problems trying to get
    the sound effects working on DOOM II. He gets music but no gunfire,
    doors, etc. He recently bought a new PC which is running a
    ROCK16/Mozart (?) sound card. He had this game on his 386 with a
    Sound Blaster and worked fine. 
    
      He called ID and they told him that there are three patches available 
    on America Online to fix different problems with some sound cards. 
    According to what he told me these patches are supposedly labeled 
    Patch #1, #2, and #3.
    
      Anybody here have access to America on line that could check it out,
    and maybe download them. Any help would be appreciated.