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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

3357.0. "WPSPLUS format cannot be changed !" by ZPOVC::CHINGYUE () Tue Oct 05 1993 07:54

    Hello,
    
    Just upgraded an ALL-IN-1 IOS ver 2.4 system to ver 3.0-1
    
    For a particular WPL-PLUS document created on ver 2.4 that was 
    suppose to print in 16CPI, get printed in the 10CPI instead.
    
    When I asked them to NEXT-SCREEN to WPPARG1, they encounter the message,
    CANNOT CHANGE THE WPSPLUS FORMAT SETTING FOR THIS DOCUMENT 
    
    Under what circumstances would the above happen. How may I rectify
    it. The only way it may be printed out now is to DT to VMS !
    
    PS: There was a STARS article which mentioned a TOOL available.	
        Anybody knows its whereabout ?
    
    regards,
    ching-U
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3357.1ASCII format addedZPOVC::CHINGYUETue Oct 05 1993 12:139
    Sorry for the false alarm.
    When SH, the Data Set was ASCII. Having traced through the ND,
    I created a ASCII format with WPS-PLUS formatting set to "Y".
    
    That allows the document format to be changed. 
    Not too sure if that's right but customer is able to print now.
    
    Thanks.
    ching-U
3357.2STANDARD ASCII FormatIOSG::NEWLANDRichard Newland, IOSG, REO2-G/L2Tue Oct 05 1993 12:5817
In V3.0 NEXT SCREEN is used only to change WPS-PLUS formatting settings. If
you press this key when printing a document which will not be formatted by
the WPS-PLUS Formatter the message 

    You cannot change the WPS-PLUS formatting settings for this document

will be displayed.  The datatype and handling of the document, and 
information in the FORMAT master is examined to determine if the document 
will be formatted by the WPS-PLUS formatter.

ALL-IN-1 V3.0 ships with a FORMAT master entry called 'STANDARD ASCII' 
which is for formatting ASCII documents with the WPS-PLUS formatter.  
Therefore it was probably not necessary to create another entry which is 
equivalent to 'STANDARD ASCII'.


Richard
3357.3My 'work-around' didn't workZPOVC::CHINGYUEWed Oct 06 1993 11:5612
    Richard,
    
    The document has a DATA TYPE of ASCII, not STANDARD ASCII which is why
    I've asked customer to create a new ASCII entry. 
    
    Customer's feedback today isn't that good. Now they/re able to NEXT
    SCREEN but only the first line prints in 16 CPI, the rest of the 
    text doesn't appear.
    
    ANy suggestion ?
    
    ching-U
3357.4What type of printer?IOSG::NEWLANDRichard Newland, IOSG, REO2-G/L2Wed Oct 06 1993 13:5724
>    The document has a DATA TYPE of ASCII, not STANDARD ASCII which is why
>    I've asked customer to create a new ASCII entry. 

I would expect the Data Type to be ASCII, because that defines the
structure of the file and that is not being changed.  

The Handling of the document is probably blank or set to 'ASCII EDT'.  If
you use the U (Update) option to change the Handling to 'STANDARD ASCII'
then the document will be formatted with the WPS-PLUS formatter.  In this 
case you are changing how ALL-IN-1 processes the document.

    
>    Customer's feedback today isn't that good. Now they/re able to NEXT
>    SCREEN but only the first line prints in 16 CPI, the rest of the 
>    text doesn't appear.
    
What type of printer are you printing to?

Check the VMS Print queue and Print Form definitions.  It sounds like the 
records being sent to the printer are being truncated.


Richard
3357.5One other questionZPOVC::CHINGYUEThu Oct 07 1993 08:4113
    Richard, 
    
    You're right again. Their OA$HLS_* form has been set with /TRUNCATE
    qualifer. 
    
    Thanks.
    
    By the way, (I know I should ask this in WPS-PLUS conference but...)
    can the pitch size of a mail be saved in the document instead of having
    to change the pitch size just before printing ?
    
    Being-lazy,
    ching-U
3357.6No, but...IOSG::NEWLANDRichard Newland, IOSG, REO2-G/L2Thu Oct 07 1993 13:2418
>    By the way, (I know I should ask this in WPS-PLUS conference but...)
>    can the pitch size of a mail be saved in the document instead of having
>    to change the pitch size just before printing ?

It depends on the Data type of the message.  If it is ASCII the pitch size 
cannot be saved because an ASCII file does not provide any mechanism for 
storing anything other than the text.  

If the Data type of the message is WPS-PLUS then it can contain stored
WPS-PLUS print settings such as the pitch size if these are set when the
message is created.  However, when the WPS-PLUS print settings of a message
are changed during a Print operation the settings cannot be saved because a
user does not write access to the shared .WPL file in the OA$SHAR*
directories. 


Richard