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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:	OLD ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:	Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:	IOSG::PYE

Created:	Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:	Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	4343
Total number of notes:	18308

2839.0. "V2.4 v V3.0 Private File Cabinet Sizes" by FLEX7::ALLINGHAM_PD (Permenantly Peaking!) Thu Jun 10 1993 17:40

    I have a large customer site where consideration is being give to
    upgrading to V3 from 2.4.
    
    At present, the 5500 or so users tend to use the system for mail.  They
    are spread over three RA90's and occupy about 1045 blocks each - we
    don't have a lot of space!
    
    We are currently looking at a pre upgrade hardware upgrade, perhaps
    trying to spread the users over 5 spindles instead of three (3 X RA90 +
    2 X RA72).
    
    The low private area usage tells me that they are mostly using mail -
    fine we can cope with that - we have lots of other disks.  But
    something tells me that post V3.0 the user areas are going to occupy
    more space than they do now.  We don't have any documentation on site
    so I can't look it up.
    
    The question is:
    
    1.	Will the existing file cabs / private areas get larger post upgrade
    and if so by how much?
    
    2.	What will be the new 'default' size of a cabinet post upgrade when
    we start created new accounts?
    
    Thanks in advance!
    
    Peter.

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
2839.1	Why would v3.0 make a difference?	AIMTEC::WICKS_A	U.S.A 2 England 0 - I was there!	`Wed Jun 16 1993 02:41`	9
	Peter, what makes you think that these files will be bigger under v3.0 i'm bemused... regards, Andrew.D.wicks
2839.2	Groping in the dark in BT-LAND	FLEX7::ALLINGHAM_PD	Permenantly Peaking!	`Wed Jun 16 1993 12:22`	7
	Perhaps it's just an urban myth - unfortunately, I don't have a 3.0 system to get onto nor do I have a doc set here - maybe there's no difference at all - only someone with access to a 3.0 can tell me! Regards, Peter.
2839.3	Some observations....	IOSG::PYE	Graham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer's Apprentice	`Wed Jun 16 1993 13:01`	16
	Each user will get the following new files, not necessarily all of them, it depends what features they use: ACCESS.DAT 0 FILECAB.DAT 108 OA$USERPRINTSTYLES.DAT 24 OANICKNAMES.DAT ?? (Converted from NICKNAMES - may increase) RESERVATIONS.DAT 62 RESERVE_LIST.DAT 10 The sizes come from the initial allocations in the FDLs. IMHO, the initial size of the FILECAB.DAT file could be drastically reduced by editing the FDL. Make sure the extent is still set to a reasonable number so that "power" users get it back to a sensible size quickly. Graham
2839.4	Don't Forget "Drawers" ...	ATLANA::SHERMAN	Debt Free!	`Wed Jun 16 1993 16:32`	10
	Hi &rew, Its not that the files get 'bigger' - its that there are more (.3) files in the directory. In addition, the ALL-IN-1 sub-directory structure is repeated for each additional drawer. Over time, depending on the drawer usage on Peter's system, this will also cause increased disk consumption ... Hthy, Ron
2839.5	The Hardware Solution!	FLEX7::ALLINGHAM_PD	Permenantly Peaking!	`Wed Jun 16 1993 17:06`	8
	Thanks for the help - I just heard this morning that we have 4 x RA72 on order as of today so I'm a bit less worried that I was! Thanks for all the input. Cheers, Peter.
2839.6	And OA$TEMP.DIR	IOSG::NEWLAND	Richard Newland, IOSG, REO2-G/L2	`Wed Jun 16 1993 20:11`	8
	Re: .3 Another new file is OA$TEMP.DIR, and any files in this directory. However, the new housekeeping option to clear the temporary file directories makes it much easier to delete any lost temporary files. Richard