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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

2038.0. "Printing with V3.0 overflows page" by MSDOA::63722::RMITCHELL () Wed Jan 06 1993 00:43

I am an ALL-IN-1 user (not a system manager) and I have some complaints about 
how the new version of ALL-IN-1 (V3.0 I believe) handles the printing of my 
mail messages.  I think it is possible that one of the parameters specified 
when ALL-IN-1 was upgraded has caused the printing to change and it is 
possible the systems people can change our setup such that my messages print 
the way they used to.  Any help would be appreciated.

Problem:  When I receive ASCII mail messages and print them on my LN03-AA 
printer the new version of ALL-IN-1 seems to put a 6 line top margin and a 6 
line bottom margin on the document.  This causes reports, etc. which were 
formatted to use all or most of the 66 lines on a page to print the bottom of 
the report on the top lines of the following page.  I am aware that I can 
file the text and change the print settings but I don't want to have to do 
that for every mail message I receive. 

I spoke with one of the system managers in the support group and he told me 
they have turned on WPS Standard formatting for the print queues.  Is this 
something that can be turned off and if so is there a reason to leave it on? 

I also received a WPS-PLUS report from a group in Merrimack and it also 
printed 6 lines in the top and bottom margins which caused the formatting to 
screw up.  I filed the attachment printed it with different settings and it 
worked OK.   I believe I could have changed the print setings of this 
attachment when it printed but I didn't know they were going to be wrong 
before I printed it.  This led me to believe that perhaps our system was 
ignoring WPS-Plus saved settings for a particular document so I created a 
WPS-Plus document, changed the print settings to print in 16 pitch, and 
mailed the document to myself through the Southern Area router (i.e. Rees 
Mitchell @ALF not Mitchell.Rees).  When I received this document I printed it 
without changing the print settings and it printed in 16 pitch as it should. 
This makes me think that the WPS-Plus document I received from Merrimack was 
not saved with the correct print settings initially or something they sent 
it through stripped the print settings.  I definitely have problems when I 
receive ASCII mail messages which were created in VAXmail or AQS or 
something.

Gripe:  My second complaint about V3.0 of ALL-IN-1 is now when I do an II and 
select all of my inbox to read, if I choose to print a message, the system 
automatically goes on to the next message without allowing me to act on the 
message after I have printed it.  The old system would return to the message 
after you had printed so you could file it or delete it or reply to it or 
something.  Now I have to remember to go back and act on the message.  The 
only advantage to the new way is it saves me from having to type N or RETURN 
to go to the next message.  I don't like this "enhancement".

Thanks for your help!

Rees

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2038.1ASCII EDT Format Master entryIOSG::NEWLANDRichard Newland, IOSG, REO1-D/4AWed Jan 06 1993 15:0138
ASCII mail messages which do not have Handling defined are by default
formatted using the 'ASCII EDT' Format master entry.  What has probably
happened on your system is that the ASCII EDT Format Master entry now has
the 'WPS-PLUS formatting' field set to 'Y'.  This means that ASCII mail
messages will be formatted using the WPS-PLUS formatter instead of the
ALL-IN-1 ASCII formatter.  Since an ASCII file has no way of storing
WPS-PLUS print settings the WPS-PLUS formatter applies default values,
which for the top and bottom margins is six lines. 

The 'WPS-PLUS formatting' flag is a setting for each document format.  It
is not a print queue setting as one of your system managers seems to be
suggesting.  Your system manager can change the value of this field in the 
'ASCII EDT' Format Master entry to 'N' so that ASCII documents and messages 
will be formatted using the ASCII formatter.

If your system manager does not want make this change there is a quicker way
for you to get your ASCII mail messages formatted using the ASCII
formatter.  Select the message, use the U (Update) option, and set the
Handling to 'ASCII FORMAT'.   (This assumes that the 'ASCII FORMAT' entry
on your system has the 'WPS-PLUS Formatting' flag set to 'N' which is its
initial value when ALL-IN-1 V3.0 is installed.) 



ALL-IN-1 systems can by configured so that WPS-PLUS files are converted to 
ASCII files when they are mailed to another system.  This will result in 
all WPS-PLUS print settings being lost because ASCII files are not able to 
store these settings.  If these files are subsequently formatted using the 
WPS-PLUS formatter then default WPS-PLUS print setting values will be used.



A Print during a Read was changed in V3.0 to fix reported problems.  See 
topic 1865 in this conference where this has been discussed before.



Richard