Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

You say in .0 that you have 'change the queue accordingly'.  Does this mean
that you have redefined the default form for the queue or specified a
mounted form, or do you want users to explicitly specify the new form only
on print jobs that require it? 

When ALL-IN-1 creates a print job it sets the VMS Print form from the
format style.  What is probably happening is that the LN03 style has a
print form defined which is overriding the default form on the queue. 

The best way of setting up the VMS print queue and the ALL-IN-1 printer
master files depends on whether using the new form will be the normal way
of printing to that printer. 


Richard

    When I said 'changed the queue accordingly' at VMS level;  this is
    what we did;   All the people using this printer want the
    decreased margins, so the printer is set up using its own 
    vms form [set up with 0 top and bottom margins], by default.
    
    When printing from A1 though, the larger top and bottom margin
    take over.
    
    Is there a way of redefining the margins in ALL-IN-1, just for
    that printer?   Again, everyone using this particular printer 
    wants the special format.
    
    

    The printer settings for the top and bottom margin are stored in the
    WPS-PLUS documents. So you have to change those settings. Store the
    appropriate settings (Print Settings menu), and restore them for the
    other documents that must be printed on that specific printer.
    
    Sjaak.

Re: .2

If you want all printing to this particular printer to use the new print 
form do the following:

1.  From the Manage Printer Types menu Read the entry for 'LN03'.

2.  Create a new entry (e.g. LN03NM - for LN03 no margins) which is the 
    same as the LN03 entry except for the Print form field.  The Print form 
    field should be set to the name of the VMS Print form you have already
    created.

3.  From the Manage Site Printers menu select the entry for the particular
    printer.  Change the 'Format printer type' field to the name of the
    Printer Type entry you created at step 2. 


When an ALL-IN-1 user prints to this printer destination by default the 
"LN03NM" printer type will be used and therefore the print job will be 
created using the new print form.


Re: .3

This is talking about WPS-PLUS margin settings which are not the same as 
the margin settings of a VMS Print form.


Richard

    We had a custom called PL that did, you guessed it, landscape
    printing. Now the code has much changed and I feel there must
    be a possibility to do landscape printing from the standard options.
    
    I created a stype LN03LAND with form not modifiable and set to 
    an existing LANDSCAPE form. It doesn't want to print landscape.
    
    I also tried to modify the LN03 style and make the form field
    changeable so that one can put LANDSCAPE in it instead of the 
    OA$HLS_80 form.
    
    It doesn't want to do it. What am I missing.
    
    Thanks
    /rhr
    

    
>    I created a stype LN03LAND with form not modifiable and set to 
>    an existing LANDSCAPE form. It doesn't want to print landscape.

Is the print job being created with /FORM=LANDSCAPE?

What type of documents are you trying to print?  Are they documents such as 
WPS-PLUS formatted for an LN03 which contain printer set-up control 
sequences which undo any set-up performed by the VMS print form?


>    I also tried to modify the LN03 style and make the form field
>    changeable so that one can put LANDSCAPE in it instead of the 
>    OA$HLS_80 form.
>    
>    It doesn't want to do it. What am I missing.
    
What exactly doesn't it want to do?


Richard

    Richard,
    
    it does print portrait and not the demanded landscape.
    
    The /form=landscape qualifier is in the print job. One thing I am
    wondering about: My printer is a DQS printer. Could this cause
    a problem? On the system, where the printer physically is, it
    has also got the /form=landscape.
    
    /rhr
    
    

    
>    The /form=landscape qualifier is in the print job. 

This shows that ALL-IN-1 has correctly created the print job with the
VMS print form you want.


>    One thing I am
>    wondering about: My printer is a DQS printer. Could this cause
>    a problem? On the system, where the printer physically is, it
>    has also got the /form=landscape.
    
I don't think DQS is the problem, but it would be worth checking that the 
remote system has a LANDSCAPE print form.  However, if it does not I would 
expect the job to fail with a 'No such form' error.


Answers to my other questions in .6 will help to diagnose the problem.


Richard

    

    Richard,
    
    I tried mail and WPS-plus documents, so yes, they would be formatted
    WPS-plus output.
    
    Do you see any means to use the V3.0 features to achieve what I want
    instead of customising again?
    
    /rhr

I think what is happening is that listing files created by the WPS-PLUS
formatter with an LN03 device type contain printer set-up information which 
overrides what is done with a a VMS print form.  This could occur with 
earlier versions of ALL-IN-1.

How did your PL customization handle this situation, because it's not new 
in ALL-IN-1 V3.0?

One way of doing this without customizations is to get the WPS-PLUS 
formatter to create files using an LP11 device type.  This results in 
listing files which do not contain printer set-up information and therefore 
any set-up performed by the VMS print form will not be overridden.  
However, the use of LP11 instead of LN03 will result in the loss of some 
attributes such as bolding.


Richard