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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

3230.0. "LANDSCAPE nightmare !" by BIS1::DESTRIJCKER (Back again to the home town) Fri Sep 03 1993 17:27

    
    Hi all,
    
    I'm stuck with a landscape printing problem. I wonder whether any of
    you know the answer or have any bright ideas? Here goes:
    
    A simple WPLSPLUS document with right margin 132 and control block
    saying PRINTER FORMAT LANDSCAPE prints landscape OK but it wraps at 80
    characters when using print style DECLASER with both forms (OA$HLS_80
    and OA$HLS_132); while when using print style PS it wraps at 132 chars.
    Even when print style DECLASER picks up form CPS$DEFAULT it wraps at 80
    chars.
    
    What is doing this? Any ideas?
    
    Thanks a lot in advance.
    
    Wivine.
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3230.1KERNEL::SMITHERSJLiving on the culinary edge....Fri Sep 03 1993 18:107
    Sho term on the LTA device
    (SHO QUE/FULL to find this out) and look at the width specified.
    (You will need privs to see this information).  If set to 80, modify
    to 255.
    
    Hope this helps
    julia
3230.2Is 255 BIS1::DESTRIJCKERBack again to the home townFri Sep 03 1993 18:368
    
    Julia,
    
    Sho term on the LTA device specifies a width of 255 and page of 66.
    
    Sorry.
    
    Wivine.
3230.3KERNEL::SMITHERSJLiving on the culinary edge....Fri Sep 03 1993 21:248
    Check what the escape sequence is for keyword LANDSCAPE in the DECLASER
    table.  (WP PT and then create a table based on DECLASER.PRA, ).
    
    It should be something like this:
    
    <ESC>[2 z<ESC>[1;3400s
    
    julia
3230.4I don't understandBIS1::DESTRIJCKERBack again to the home townMon Sep 06 1993 19:269
    
    Julia,
    
    I did find this escape sequence in the DECLASER.PRA file but what do
    you mean by keyword LANDSCAPE? The word landscape is nowhere mentioned
    in this file. Should there be a %LANDSCAPE% followed by that escape
    sequence? All there is is %WPS%.
    
    Wivine.
3230.5No PRT fileBIS1::DESTRIJCKERBack again to the home townMon Sep 06 1993 19:434
    
    Also, there isn't a DECLASER.PRT file. Should there be one?
    
    Wivine.
3230.6NoIOSG::NEWLANDRichard Newland, IOSG, REO2-G/L2Mon Sep 06 1993 19:535
For WPS-PLUS V4 there may not be a .PRT file.  Most .PRA files point to the 
multiple .PRT font files for the fonts that the printer supports.


Richard
3230.8TOPPER::BARHAMNorbert:Mon Sep 06 1993 21:057
        Might be an idea to post the escape codes here by printing to a
    destination of FILE, print style DECLASER. Is it a customised printer 
    table (ALLI/NOCUSTOM) ? Have they tried DECLSRA4.PRA ?
    
    Cheers,
    
    Clive
3230.9Escape sequences?BIS1::DESTRIJCKERBack again to the home townTue Sep 07 1993 14:3918
    
    Clive,
    
    DECLSRA4 as print style is not recognized although the file exists. 
    The DECLASER.PRA file is 14 blocks big and dates from 12-Mar-1992. 
    
    DECLASER.PRA customized? I doubt that because then I would expect it to
    be in the directory wpl$site_prt_share and not wpl$prt_share
    [ALLIN1.PRINT].
    
    I hope what follows after the form feed is what you're looking for.
    
    Wivine.
    
    
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3230.10TOPPER::BARHAMNorbert:Wed Sep 08 1993 13:5010
    Well your codes are pretty much the same as mine apart from font and
    pitch, except you don't seem to have the landscape codes mentioned in .3
    You should check in the orientation option OR under WP PT E. 
    
    To use DECLSRA4.PRA use options SM MFP MPR PT, create a new printer
    type or edit DECLASER and change the Printer Device value to DECLSRA4.
    
    HTH,
    
    Clive
3230.11Lost in the printing worldBIS1::DESTRIJCKERBack again to the home townWed Sep 08 1993 16:0717
    Clive,
    
    Using printer type DECLSRA4 doesn't make any difference on the contrary
    it's getting worse. My newly created document now comes out portrait
    with part of the second overprinted. Looks like it wrapped at 80, then
    went to beginning of the same line and started printing the second
    line.
    
    I would like to step through the whole printing process when a WPSPLUS 
    with a control block that says printer format landscape is printed.
    Could somebody explain this process to me please or point me to where I
    can find this info? 
    Maybe when I understand what is happening I can identify what is wrong.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Wivine.
3230.12TOPPER::BARHAMNorbert:Wed Sep 08 1993 16:3410
    What is the width of your print form ?  Do you have a /truncate on the 
    print form ?
    
        $sho que/form oa$hls_80/full
    
    If you do then this seems to cause numerous inexplicable errors in
    ALL-IN-1 v3.
    
    
    Clive
3230.13Defined as usualBIS1::DESTRIJCKERBack again to the home townWed Sep 08 1993 17:118
    Clive,
    
    Both forms are defined in A1V30START.COM, both with /NOWRAP and
    /NOTRUNCATE, OA$HLS_80 80 wide and OA$HLS_132 132 wide.
    
    Are you saying that OA$HLS_80 should be 132 wide?
    
    Wivine.
3230.14TOPPER::BARHAMNorbert:Wed Sep 08 1993 18:274
    I was just suggesting that if your width is 80 then you won't get 132 !
    Just guessing - try a from that hasn't got /truncate on it...
    
    Clive
3230.15WPS-PLUS .LIS fileIOSG::NEWLANDRichard Newland, IOSG, REO2-G/L2Wed Sep 08 1993 19:167
Have you checked if the listing file created by the WPS-PLUS formatter 
contains the required control sequences?  Without knowing this it is 
difficult to say if you should look further into queue or device set-ups, 
or the WPS-PLUS document and its Print settings.


Richard
3230.16Anothe rexampleBIS1::DESTRIJCKERBack again to the home townThu Sep 09 1993 12:4455
    Richard,
    
    I have been looking at that and hereafter follows a copy of the .LIS
    file taken from the printer que just before it got printed. The printer
    is a DECLaser 2200. I used the unchanged DECLASER printer type using
    the form OA$HLS_132 as defined in A1V30START.COM and this is what comes
    out:
    
    
    
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    Hope this tells you more.
    
    Regards,
    
    Wivine.
3230.17TOPPER::BARHAMNorbert:Thu Sep 09 1993 14:3914
    Prints fine for me in the sense that it's landscape and doesn't wrap at
    80 (prints to the margins) though the formatting is a bit strange as
    the font is too big (it's 10 point courier now, was elite ?) to fit the
    long underline on one line.
    So your wrapping at 80 isn't an escape code problem. I used oa$hls_132
    with /truncate and got same results so not a /truncate problem.
    The above was using a LATSYM queue. Don't believe you ever specified an
    ANSI generic queue so I tried that and I now see your problem - it
    wraps at 80 only when using an ANSI generic queue.
    Don't know what that tells us other than it seems to be a CPS problem
    maybe ?
    
    Clive
         
3230.18KERNEL::SMITHERSJLiving on the culinary edge....Thu Sep 09 1993 22:0715
    Ahh, this rings a bell (vaguely).
    
    Try printing the document to the ansi queue with a format of LN03
    (making sure that the LN03 style picks up the LN03 table (SM MFP
    MPR PT SEL LN03 and then check the device).
    
    If this works, I believe you need to make an alteration to the 
    Landscape sequence in the DECLASER table.  Change it to
    
     <ESC>[?21 J<ESC>[1;3400s
    
    which is what the LN03 has.
    
    Cheers
    julia
3230.19Change font to 10 p. elite?BIS1::DESTRIJCKERBack again to the home townThu Sep 23 1993 20:5317
    Hi guys!
    
    Sorry to bother you again but now somebody has noticed that 10 point
    courier doesn't print 80 characters or 132 chars on one line. So I want
    to change the font in DECLASER.PRA to 10 point ELITE. How do I do this?
    
    Using options MS MFP MPRMPR PT SEL declaser E I get theprinter types
    master. 
    
    Using PT from WP a new DECLASER.PRA is NOT created. And the manual
    doesn't make sence.
    
    Anybody out there who can tell me?
    
    Tahnks,
    
    Wivine.