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Conference turris::womannotes-v3

Title:Topics of Interest to Women
Notice:V3 is closed. TURRIS::WOMANNOTES-V5 is open.
Moderator:REGENT::BROOMHEAD
Created:Thu Jan 30 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 30 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1078
Total number of notes:52352

635.0. "do you carry a pocketknife?" by BTOVT::THIGPEN_S (freedom: not a gift, but a choice) Mon Jan 14 1991 13:10

This is an informal survey.  Women, do you carry a pocketknife?

I do.  I almost always have.  A pocketknife is endlessly useful.  Mine is the
one I chose from the selection of DEC's 10-years-of-service awards.  It has a
lockback-type blade about 3" long.  I use it for lots of things: opening mail,
cutting string on packages, cutting branches to use in toasting marshmallows,
cutting up apples for eating, emergency fingernail trimming, whittling, strip-
ping insulation off wire while working on kids' train set, etc, etc.  (I gave
up mumblety-peg long ago :-) It's also great for getting the cellophane off
new manual sets.

So why am I asking this?

The reactions I get from people when I bring out my knife to use it range from
an (infrequent) casual glance, to the horrified question "*YOU* carry a
*!*KNIFE*!* !?!?!?!!?" which oddly enough usually comes from another woman.
The men who ask in a surprised tone usually approve.  Almost no one takes it
for granted.  Once, the reaction from my (then) group's secretary was,
"figures, an engineer would carry a pocketknife."

You should note, I do not carry a knife for personal protection.  The knife I
carry would be virtually useless for that purpose, being as it's usually in
my back pocket, folded, and takes both hands to open, and is so small.  Not to
mention that I am not exactly well-versed in the art (?) of knife fighting.

Another knife I have is an antique lockback.  I don't use it much because the
lockback mechanism is loose, and because the knife is too big to carry easily
in the pockets of (DEC)work clothes.  Its blade is about 4.5" long.  When my
old proj mgr saw that knife (the only one she'd seen me use) she said in a
horrified and shocked voice,
	"Sara, YOU CARRY A SWITCHBLADE ???!?!?!?!?!?!?!?????"
(wonder if she remembered that we had not always been on the best of terms? :-)
(sheesh, what did she take me for?)

so, I am moved to ask the women of this file, do you carry a pocketknife?
why?  What do you think of carrying a pocketknife?  Men's opinions also welcome.

Sara
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635.1knivesTLE::D_CARROLLGive PEACE a chanceMon Jan 14 1991 13:1816
    Yup, I carry a Swiss Army knife.  Have for years.  Wouldn't leave home
    without it.  It has a big blade (about 3 inch) and small one (about 2
    inches) which get used for all the things you mentioned.  (Plus cutting
    cake when someone has a party in the office but forgot to bring a
    knife.)  It also has scissors (which I use practically every day), a
    corkscrew, a flathead screwdriver, a bottle opener, a toothpick, a
    leather punch and a pair of tweezers.  It's *wonderful*.
    
    I have never gotten any of the ractions you describe - just about
    everyone I know carries a knife!!!
    
    D!
    
    [PS: Maybe this should go in the differences between straight women and
    Lesbians but most of the Lesbians I know carry knives, more than
    straight women I know...wonder if that means something? :-)]
635.2Anecdotal evidenceSTAR::RDAVISJust like medicineMon Jan 14 1991 13:4714
635.3LYRIC::BOBBITTeach according to their gifts...Mon Jan 14 1991 13:5211
    Yup, I've got a black swiss army knife (Climber, I think).  I like to
    whip it out when someone in a field service course asks if anyone has a
    screwdriver.  Inspires respect in me in that situation.  And it's darn
    handy to have it around, too.  Can openers, two screwdrivers, tweezers,
    blade (good for opening boxes, packages, shrinkwrap).  Corkscrew hasn't
    seen much use (I don't really drink) but it's fun to have.  
    
    I had a buck knife in high school but I lost it.
    
    -Jody
    
635.4WMOIS::B_REINKEA red haired baby womanMon Jan 14 1991 14:046
    I have a little knife, with one blade, a nail file and a bottle opener.
    
    I did have a swiss army knife a long time ago but one of my sons
    appropriated it.
    
    Bonnie
635.5hen of the woods....good eatingJURAN::GARDNERjustme....jacquiMon Jan 14 1991 14:139

    Yup, it comes in real handy whist driving down the road and quickly
    spotting a neat specimin of choice eating from the mushroom family.
    I screach to a stop and gather my little blade and check the trunk
    out for suitable carrying device....these little mushrooms can be
    as much as 25 pounders!

    justme....jacqui
635.7... and awls are better for boring ...STAR::BECKPaul BeckMon Jan 14 1991 14:274
>                        A swiss army knife sounds like a dull, boring,
>   practical thing to have.

    They're actually more useful if they're sharp.
635.8there's on in my walletMRKTNG::SZKLARZCan't you hear? My silence screams!Mon Jan 14 1991 14:3620
               
    
    Lorna,
    
      That depends on where you go shopping for one!  Switzerland is very
    beautiful and the selection of Swiss Knives over there is impressive,
    although the prices aren't that much less.  But I thought it was a 
    great idea for a souvenir. 
    
    My first Swiss knife was of the camping varitey, complete with a small saw,
    but it was a bit too heavy for my dress pockets.  So on my last trip to
    Switzerland I picked up a nice small one that fits on my key chain, or in
    my change purse.  It has a blade, a file, siccors, tweezers, and a 
    toothpick.  All the frequently used items of my other knife.   
    
    I also brought back a half dozen of this style knife for gifts, each in a
    different color, pink, blue, red, gray, green, and yellow. And I guess
    they were a big hit, since my friends carry them all time.
      
    Allison
635.9yes, but only sometimesBLUMON::GUGELAdrenaline: my drug of choiceMon Jan 14 1991 14:3713
    
    For bicycling: I pop it into the tool kit bag (the bottle opener
    serves as screwdriver).
    
    For backpacking/camping/hiking/skiing: it just seems like I should
    have it with me going into the woods - opening food packaging,
    doubles as a dinner knife, opening canned goods and bottles, and
    the corkscrew for the occasional bottle of wine brought along on a
    backpacking trip.
    
    Sometimes it's in my purse, but I've found a lot less use for it on
    a daily basis.
    
635.10BTOVT::THIGPEN_Sfreedom: not a gift, but a choiceMon Jan 14 1991 14:4710
    Ellen, I used to keep my knife in my pocketbook, but found that my
    pocket is much freer of lint and such crud, which gucks up the works of
    a knife.  Besides, I don't carry my pocketbook everywhere and I get
    annoyed if I want the knife and have to go get it...
    
    I have tried Swiss Army knives, but the smallest one was too small to
    be useful and sturdy, and the big one (with all the tools) was too
    bulky to ride comfortably in my pocket
    
    (picky, picky)
635.11dykes with knivesGUCCI::SANTSCHIviolence cannot solve problemsMon Jan 14 1991 14:5110
    Swiss Army knife for me.  Champion or something, it's big, has lots of
    stuff in it, and I carry it in a leather knife case.  It's on my belt
    when I'm wearing jeans and not at work, otherwise, it's in my
    briefcase.  (Being an out dyke has it's advantages, I only carry a
    briefcase at work, no purse for me! :)  )
    
    To answer another question, I am a dyke, I carry a knife for useful
    purposes.
    
    sue
635.12me too!SPCTRM::LBELLIVEAUMon Jan 14 1991 15:308
    A small Swedish knife given to me by my Ex-husband in my pocketbook.
    It seems those Swedes know how to make knives; I've had this for
    4 years and the blades are still really sharp.
    
    A Swiss Army knife for biking, hiking, outdoors-types stuff
    (you never know when you need the cork-screw!)
    
    LB
635.13ISLNDS::WASKOMMon Jan 14 1991 15:3316
    Many, many years ago, DEC caused me to start carrying a knife on
    a regular basis.  One with a screwdriver.  All the terminals had
    a baud-rate switch that *only* worked with a screwdriver.  When
    the old DEC-10 crashed (averaged a coupla times a week), all the
    terminal lines reset to their slowest rate.  To log back in, we
    had to set the switch to the low rate, log in, do some kind of command
    that reset the baud rate, and then reset the switch to the higher
    rate.  I got tired of never having the tool necessary to make the
    maneuver easy.  (Interesting statement on equipment reliability
    expectations there, too.  I'd never worked on equipment that stayed
    up more than a week at the time, so this was just a petty annoyance,
    not a major quality problem.)
    
    I still carry the knife - comes in handy for all sorts of things.
    
    Alison
635.14LJOHUB::MAXHAMSnort when you laugh!Mon Jan 14 1991 15:577
My father gave me a pocket knife back when I was ten or so. He gave
me firm instructions on how *not* to use it. I believed I knew
better, and I promptly cut myself. Ouch.

Now I carry a Swiss army knife. Comes in handy.

Kathy
635.15RANGER::CANNOYTrue initiation never ends.Mon Jan 14 1991 16:258
    I carry 2. I have the Isrealie army version of the Swiss Army knife
    which gives me both a regular screwdriver and a Phillips head one as
    well as bottle caps and several small blade, tweesers, etc. I also
    carry a locking Opinel with a 3 inch blade, very useful for packages,
    grapefruits, string, cutting flowers, etc. I often find people are
    surprised when I pull it out to use.
    
    Tamzen
635.16never leave home without itCADSYS::HECTOR::RICHARDSONMon Jan 14 1991 16:4513
    Gee, I thought *all* "computer people" carried a Swiss army knife...
    I've had mine since I was in junior high school: a girlfriend brought
    it back from a trip to Switzerland (her mother is Swiss), so it is
    "really Swiss".  I seldom use the knife blade, but the screw driver,
    small saw, boring blade, and file are real handy: I used to own a car
    that broke down a lot.
    
    My husband gets by with just a square metal thing on his keychain with
    four screwdriver tips of various sizes.  He keeps "real" tools in a
    tool kit in his old "Toy-auto" for when he needs more sophisticated
    tools.
    
    /Charlotte
635.17Have knife, need Band-aidEVETPU::RUSTMon Jan 14 1991 17:0220
    Hmmm. I used to carry a jack knife - cheap, black, two blades/awl/screwdriver-
    can-opener type - but lost it somewhere in the mists of time. [I bought it with 
    some birthday money from my grandmother, and I still recall my mother's 
    disbelief at my choice. "But what could you possibly want a *knife* for?" she 
    wondered. Many of my fondest childhood memories seem to involve surprising or 
    puzzling my mother... ;-)]
    
    I did select the DEC souvenir knife as my ten-year Crackerjack prize, but
    while it's nice and solid-feeling it's also hard to open and lacks the
    niftier blade-shapes, so I don't carry it around with me.
    
    Other useful things to have: somewhere among my possessions is an Army
    can-opener, one of the tiny ones with the hinged-fang affair. It opens
    cans rather well, and could serve as an emergency screwdriver too;
    maybe I should reinstate it on my everyday keyring, as it certainly
    isn't much use in the back of a drawer. (Come to think of it, this one
    probably got retired when I noticed that all my favorite beverages came
    in pop-top cans or twist-off-top bottles...)
    
    -b
635.18yesTINCUP::KOLBEThe dilettante divorceeMon Jan 14 1991 18:0211
Count me in. I have one very small (1 inch blade, pink handle) pocket knife that
I use to open all the documenation and media packages DEC sends me. And a medium
sized (3 inch blade) Joyce Chen knife in a wooden sheath that I carry in my
backpack (I use this instead of a purse) and use for peeling oranges and what-
ever else needs done. I also have a Joyce Chen knife with a plastic handle and
sheath that I bought for trail riding. I need something with wire cutters on it
and may eventually get a knife that has that as an option. 

I've had people express surprise when they see me peeling an orange at work. One
told me they thought my knife was illegal by DEC standards but I haven't looked
at the policy to see if there is a blade size limit. liesl
635.19You bet!COLBIN::EVANSOne-wheel drivin'Mon Jan 14 1991 18:2414
    Gee whiz, me too! I thought *everybody* carried a Swiss Army Knife!
    
    I,too, seldom use the blades, but I use the screwdrivers, toothpick,
    tweezers, and scissors all the time!
    
    --DE
    
    P.S. Reminds me of the line in "Crocodile Dundee" (one of my favorite
    lines of all time) [excuse the poor attempt at creating an Aussie
    accent]:
    
    	"That's no' a knoife. *THIS* is a knoife."
    
    
635.20the knoife?WMOIS::B_REINKEA red haired baby womanMon Jan 14 1991 18:253
    and it was about 3 feet long wasn't it?
    
    BJ
635.21The Short VersionBATRI::MARCUSI am not an actor...this is my true story"Mon Jan 14 1991 18:268
A swiss army with two blades, a can opener/flat head, bottle opener, and a cork
screw.  Used to carry the larger version with 20-30 functions - seems like I
used it more often but it was too heavy.

People do indeed seem starled when you pull out a knife.  Not sure if they're
more surprised THAT you do or that you know how to USE it?

Barb
635.22CSC32::CONLONWoman of NoteMon Jan 14 1991 18:4817
    	Well, I hope I'm not the only one around here who carried an allen
    	wrench on my keychain for many years - it came in very handy for
    	opening certain types of computer and disk drive cabinets.  I also
    	carried a small pair of needlenose pliars and many sizes of small
    	box wrenches, not to mention some very tiny screwdrivers and a
    	set of variable size blades that inserted into the butt of a screw-
    	driver *set*.  Oh, yeah - and a wirewrap tool (for adding some quick
    	jumpers onto backplanes I knew at the time.)  These all fit into my 
    	purse.
    
    	If I needed something sharp, I also carried an exacto (sp?) knife
    	with fresh razor blades.  I kept many additional tools in my tool
    	kit.
    
    	Computers tended to get very nervous and would work perfectly when
    	I walked into the room.  They don't like to be taken apart if it
    	can possibly be helped -  :-)
635.23CSSE32::M_DAVISGod bless Captain Vere.Mon Jan 14 1991 18:564
    No pocketknife, but for years I carried a CPU key and a "chicken
    plucker" with which to alter punched paper tapes.
    
    mdh
635.24useful little toolCSC32::M_EVANSMon Jan 14 1991 19:0810
    Old US government issue pocket knife with two blades, an awl and can
    opener, bottle opener/screwdriver that I keep on my keychain.  Besides 
    opening documentation boxes, etc., it is useful in my gardens, when 
    hiking after work, and for a host of other things.  Also, since it is
    bulky, it makes it harder for me to lose my keys. (Family failing)
    
    Maybe it's the people I work with, but no one is surprised at my
    carrying a pocket knife.
    
    Meg 
635.25Ever so practical!NETMAN::BASTIONFix the mistake, not the blameMon Jan 14 1991 19:3711
    At this point no, but a Swiss Army Knife is on my list.
    
    However, all of my sisters now have Swiss Army Knives (one even has
    two), because I gave them as attendants gifts at my wedding!  I didn't
    want to get anything "pretty but useless" that would gather dust, so I
    went the practical route.  (And yes, the best man got one too!)
   
    
    Judi
    
    
635.26Yep, Bonnie - as I remember - about 3' long!COLBIN::EVANSOne-wheel drivin'Mon Jan 14 1991 19:571
    
635.27Oh all right. A foot-and-a-half. ;-)COLBIN::EVANSOne-wheel drivin'Mon Jan 14 1991 19:571
    
635.28NOATAK::BLAZEKthe faceless breathless callsMon Jan 14 1991 20:003
    
    Liesl, only *you* would have a knife with a pink handle!
    
635.29Big bucks to trim your fingernails. :-)COLBIN::EVANSOne-wheel drivin'Mon Jan 14 1991 20:019
    Not to rathole this, but over Xmas in Taos, N.M., I saw (for sale)
    the most BEAUTIFUL knives - from the pocketknife size to the
    "knoife" size - inlaid with turquoise and the whole gamut of Southwest
    type stones on the handle. 
    
    And let me tell you: "That's not a price tag; *THIS* is a price tag!!!"
    
    --DE
    
635.30but loses something in the tellingTLE::RANDALLNow *there's* the snow!Mon Jan 14 1991 20:1620
    I used to have a single-blade pocketknife with a mother-of-pearl
    inlay in the handle, but some creep STOLE it from me!  My
    heavy-duty two-blade knife used mostly for cutting up fruit and
    slicing fishooks out of fish mouths was loaned to Daughter to take
    to Girl Scout camp a couple of years ago and it never returned.
    
    I haven't replaced them yet.  It won't be a swiss army knife,
    though.  They're too big and too cumbersome.  
    
    We carry one that has screwdriver and corkscrew blades in the
    car's glove box.
    
    Once at a conference, the hotel staff brought in the usual tray of
    fruit with a big pineapple in the middle.  I'm sure they intended
    it for decoration, but it was ripe, so we whipped out our trusty
    pocketknives and sliced it and ate it.  When the staff came in to
    clean up, they looked at us like we had slaughtered and eaten
    somebody's dog.  It was hysterical.
    
    --bonnie
635.31My Swiss Army Knife has;WMOIS::RAINVILLEA logger & not a common bum!Mon Jan 14 1991 20:2630
	Bottle opener with flat-blade screwdriver & wire stripper,
	1" letter opener-fingernail cleaner-nail buffing surface,
	Compass on transparent inch & centimeter rule,
	Fish scaler with hook-removing tool,
	3" Blade with lockback & release,
	Spring-loaded Slip-joint pliers,
	Hacksaw with file surface,
	Spring-loaded scissors,
	Wrench, 3/16" - 7/16",
	Phillips screwdriver,
	Metal reem,
	Can opener,
	Toothpick,
	Corkscrew,
	Magnifier,
	Tweezers,
	Keyring,
	Woodsaw.


	It goes with me everywhere
	(Makes a bulge in my pocket)
	It hangs from my belt
	So i don't have to lock it.

	My pants sag on that side
	If it's late in the day	
	But i'm a lumberjack,
	And i'm O. K.
			mwr	8^)
635.32Oops, sorry, that's my Shopsmith!STAR::BECKPaul BeckMon Jan 14 1991 20:3412
    Gee, *my* Swiss Army Knife has:

	Table saw
	Router (designated)
	Lathe
	Drill Press
	Bandsaw
	Disc Sander
	Jointer
	Grinding wheel

    but no corkscrew, for some reason ...
635.34WMOIS::B_REINKEA red haired baby womanMon Jan 14 1991 22:1812
    In re Dundee's knoife..
    
    I agree ;-) that it was really only about a foot and a half long..
    
    but it sure *looked* bigger in that scene..
    
    and in re mwr, having seen the gentleman many times in wmo, i can
    attest that he lists to the side where his keys and knife are carried!
    
    Bonnie
    
    (hi mike ;-) )
635.35MOMCAT::CADSE::GLIDEWELLWow! It's The Abyss!Mon Jan 14 1991 23:3927
The Gardens Restaurant,
Murphysboro, Illinois, ~ 1966

I gracefully leaned over (being ladylike in my floor length plum silk
gown) and stretched to reach the yellow pocket knife behind the
cocktail lounge couch.  Felt lucky to find such a nice knife, and 
I carried it in my purse for years. Still open the daily mail with it.

For everyday use, I graduated to a Swiss Army knife with 
ten widgets.  Use it, on average, about twice a week.  Would use it
more often if it had a Phillips.  I also use it for lunch duty, to
avoid using a plastic knife. I truly covet the model with the
plow share on it, but my purse is already an anchor. Not buying that 
one was an exercise in self-control.  (For protection in bad 
neighborhoods, I carry my heavy police model flashlight. If I 
had to defend myself by opening the knife, it would be hopeless.)

Last year's department xmas party, when the call went out for a 
corkscrew, two of us -- Mary and I -- were so equipped.

Judy B! You're a genius. I'll bet the wedding attendants were
surprised AND pleased. Put me on your gift list, wouldja :)

Shoppers Alert:  Last week, K-mart was selling 1" to 2", one and 
two blade knives, with very nice wooden handles from $1 to $2. 
 
          Meigs
635.36MOMCAT::TARBETfor yer ain sweet sakeMon Jan 14 1991 23:5311
    Yup, big ol' buck knife with a 6-inch blade heavy enough to chop wood
    with.
    
    But after using Catherine T's Swiss Army model when we were sewing up
    the =wn= banner, that's what my next one's gonna be.
                                 
    
    I also typically carry in my purse a set of small screwdrivers, a pair
    of mini-pliers, a mat knife, and of course a pair of dykes.
    
    						=maggie
635.37BTOVT::THIGPEN_Sfreedom: not a gift, but a choiceTue Jan 15 1991 00:1521
    well, thanks to you all for all these replies.  Next time someone says,
    "Sara, you carry a *knife*?" I'm gonna answer, "You mean you *don't*?!?"
    
    Observations:  I don't like Swiss army knives myself.  I could use the
    screwdrivers from time to time (both types), but I don't use the rest
    of the doodads enough to offset the bulk and weight.  I so rarely need
    a corkscrew in the woods.  Tweezers?  that's why I keep my fingernails
    long.  Speaking of which, thumbnails are tools in themselves.  The
    scissors are too small to be effective.  The awl I have never really
    used, since I rarely sew leather; I can make a hole in a belt with the
    tip of the knife blade.
    
    I've thought of getting a buck knife, to carry in a sheath on my belt. 
    Seems like overkill for going to the office, though :-).
    
    My antique would be a good throwing knife, it feels well balanced, but
    it is not sturdy enough anymore for the abuse of learning.  Besides,
    though it would be impressive, it would not be real useful.
    
    in sum, I would never have given up my knife, but I am glad to know
    that so many of you carry them too.
635.38Oh, YESEEMELI::PAKKANENThis needs scientific strategyTue Jan 15 1991 07:196
    
    I carry Swiss army knive with me. It's best "little toolbox" I've ever had.
    For me, it has nothing to do with self-protection.
    
    -Tuula-
    
635.39oh myGUCCI::SANTSCHIviolence cannot solve problemsTue Jan 15 1991 11:5810
    re: .36
    
    Maggie, a pair of dykes??!!  Now really,  where did you find a pair?
    
    (I actually know what dykes are, but couldn't resist)
    
    Hi to you :)
    
    sue
    
635.40Ok, I'll fall for it.LJOHUB::MAXHAMSnort when you laugh!Tue Jan 15 1991 12:248
>    (I actually know what dykes are, but couldn't resist)

Well, I thought I did too, but I have yet to see a pocketbook
that could hold *one*, say nothing of a pair of 'em.

What are they, Maggie?

Kathy    
635.41I keep 'em in my toolbox which lives in my car.BLUMON::WAYLAY::GORDONTongue firmly in cheek...Tue Jan 15 1991 12:377
	dykes = diagonal wire cutters (vs lineman's pliers)

	I usually call them "diags" to keep down the strange looks from folks.
And, I own two pair, in two different sizes.


						--D
635.42CGVAX2::CONNELLIt's reigning cats.Tue Jan 15 1991 13:016
    We used to call them dykes also. not sure why. A woman I knew that was
    a Lesbian couldn't find hers. She was working on her car and asked to
    borrow mine. Mine had never been used and she called them "Virgin
    Dykes". We both got a chuckle out of it.
    
    Phil
635.44BRABAM::PHILPOTTCol I F 'Tsingtao Dhum' PhilpottTue Jan 15 1991 13:155
    
    Dykes/Dikes are also defensive walls to keep out the unwashed heathens
    (such as the Welsh - as in Offa's Dyke).
    
    /. Ian .\
635.45PEKING::SMITHS2Tue Jan 15 1991 13:4511
    
    Here in the UK I'm doing a self-defence course at the moment.  Last
    week we were told that if we carried a knife (of any sort) we could be
    arrested for being in possession of an offensive weapon!  No matter
    what you intended to use it for!  At the risk of going off the subject,
    if you buy a rounders (or baseball) bat over here you can't walk
    through town with it uncovered - that could also be an offensive
    weapon!  Mind you, Mace is also illegal in the UK.
    
    Sam
    
635.46BRABAM::PHILPOTTCol I F 'Tsingtao Dhum' PhilpottTue Jan 15 1991 13:5110
    
    Yes, but your instructor is stretching a point. People have been "done"
    for offensive weapons for carrying a pen knife, but usually only as an
    aggravating offense attached to something else.
    
    MACE incidentally is not an offensive weapon - it is a PROHIBITED
    weapon under the firearms act (up to 10 years in jail plus a big fine
    for possession).
    
    /. Ian .\
635.47PEKING::SMITHS2Tue Jan 15 1991 14:098
    
    Re -1
    
    Thanks for clarifying.  Mind you, I still don't carry a penknife - and
    I don't know anyone who does - I've never really needed one.
    
    Sam
    
635.48No. :-)REGENT::BROOMHEADDon't panic -- yet.Tue Jan 15 1991 14:1813
635.51BRABAM::PHILPOTTCol I F 'Tsingtao Dhum' PhilpottTue Jan 15 1991 14:305
    
    FWIW: I can open my lock back by holding the blade and flicking the
    knife so that the momentum of the handle causes it to open and lock.
    
    /. Ian .\
635.53ESIS::GALLUPSwish, swish.....splat!Tue Jan 15 1991 14:4110
    
    
    My pocket knife is small with a whiteish/pearl handle.  
    
    It needs to be sharpened.
    
    I also should dig out my boyscout knife with the leather sheath and the 
    match-case in the handle....
    
    kath
635.54butterfly knivesTLE::D_CARROLLGive PEACE a chanceTue Jan 15 1991 16:4215
    Gee, no one has mentioned butterfly knives.
    
    I like carrying a Swiss Army knife because I *use* it's zillions of
    functions, but if I decided that I just wanted a *knife* (with no bells
    and whistles) I would definately take the butterfly knife over the
    lockback.
    
    It's easy to open, double-edged, and you can play with it when you are
    bored.  :-)
    
    D!
    
    [Are they illegal in MA? I know they are illegal in some counties in NY
    state and not in others.  Many of my friends at school carried
    butterfly knives because they were legal for sale in Troy, NY.]
635.56TINCUP::KOLBEThe dilettante divorceeTue Jan 15 1991 17:472
So, this whole topic asks the eternal =wn= question. Are we typical of women in
general or once again a crazed sub-set of knife wielding feminsits? :*) liesl
635.57Thanks for the spray of soda on my workstation. :):):)CSC32::CONLONWoman of NoteTue Jan 15 1991 17:495
    
    	RE: .56  liesl
    
    	:*)
    
635.59RAVEN1::AAGESENENTITLEMENT'S the diff, eh??Tue Jan 15 1991 17:5012
    
    re .56 liesl
    
      the latter... don't ya' just love it? (-;
    
    re: the topic
    
    one ooooollllllllllddd rusty knife from my brownies troop
    
    and one swiss army knife i've had around for about 15yrs.
    
    ~robin
635.60WRKSYS::STHILAIREFood, Shelter & DiamondsTue Jan 15 1991 17:524
    re .56, I think you all know the answer to that. :-)
    
    Lorna
    
635.61Gooby?REGENT::BROOMHEADDon't panic -- yet.Tue Jan 15 1991 17:563
    Sounds, er, interesting.
    
    						Ann B.
635.62BTOVT::THIGPEN_Sfreedom: not a gift, but a choiceTue Jan 15 1991 18:0311
    well, I'd gotten the strange reactions from
    	a) women I'd thought of as feminists
    	b) women I'd not thought of as feminists, who thought of me as 
    	   a techno-dweeb
    	c) men who thought I was a bit odd but cute to be carrying a knife
    	d) one man who thought this knife-carrying was an off-the-wall
    	   trait of my family (he saw me and my older brother using our
    	   pocketknives at the same time, and heard that our father has
    	   one too) (btw, my father is an engineer too! :-)
    
    Sara
635.64it may as well be prettyWRKSYS::STHILAIREFood, Shelter & DiamondsTue Jan 15 1991 18:147
    I think carrying a pocketknife seems like a sensible idea but I never
    really thought of it before.  I like the idea of carrying a very
    feminine looking, aesthetically pleasing knife.  (maybe something pink
    and/or intricately enameled or jeweled)
    
    Lorna
    
635.65have 'terrorist society' totebag, will travelRUTLND::JOHNSTONbean sidheTue Jan 15 1991 18:329
    I need to replace my Swiss Army knife.  I loaned it to someone [_you_
    know who you are ...] to whom it has apparently joined itself at the
    hip.
    
    Once I acquire another, I shall be able to stop hauling about small
    screwdrivers, icepicks and corkscrews.
    
      Annie
    
635.66purse? you must be kidding! :-)STAR::BARTHDream until your dream comes trueTue Jan 15 1991 18:406
    >> (being an out dyke has it's advantages ... no purse for me! :)
    
    Does this mean that if I'm het I have to start carrying a purse?  
    Oh no!  :-)
    
    Karen.
635.67CSC32::M_EVANSTue Jan 15 1991 18:474
    Goddes forbid Karen!! Oh no! Does not carrying a purse="trendy dyke
    look?", or is it just "gooby nerd
    
    Meg
635.68Swiss army knife - of courseMAKO::GOODMANI don't have a personal name yet...Tue Jan 15 1991 20:474
I have several pockect knives; at least 4 Swiss army knives.  I guess
you could say I collect them.  I won't leave home without my pocket knife.

Robin
635.69CALS::MALINGWorking in a window wonderlandTue Jan 15 1991 21:5921
    I've never carried a pocket knife and right now I can't figure out why.
    Maybe it just never occured to me.  I tend to collect tools of all
    kinds and love fixing things.  This morning I brought in my cute little
    1/4 inch drive socket wrench and moved coat hooks for myself and some
    people in my group (the whole group just moved to a new office area).
    I used to do all work on my own car, but no pocket knife.
    
    This weekend my husband and I went X-C skiing.  He fell and broke his
    glasses.  We skiied back to the first aid station and they used a
    pocket knife to cut off some duct tape to fix his glasses.  Later in
    the day the sole of my boot separated from the upper while out on the
    trail.  It happened just as we came upon a woman on the trail.  She was
    a ski patrol and she reached into her pack and got out her pocket knife
    and some duct tape and we taped up my boot.
    
    I guess I need to get a pocket knife and maybe some duct tape too.
    Somewhere I remember Jody writing something about the virtues of duct
    tape.
    
    -Mary
    
635.70GUESS::DERAMODan D'EramoTue Jan 15 1991 22:5813
        re .-1,                 
        
>> Somewhere I remember Jody writing something about the virtues
>> of duct tape.
        
        I don't remember the note number, but it went something
        like:
        
        	Duct tape is like the force--it has a dark side
        	and a light side and it holds the universe
        	together.
        
        Dan
635.71You need Jody to find the note numberCALS::MALINGWorking in a window wonderlandTue Jan 15 1991 23:031
    Yeah that's the one Dan.  I just couldn't remember how it went.
635.73BTOVT::BAGDY_MDense Fog = Air GuitarWed Jan 16 1991 10:3316
        Better late than never I guess. . .
        
        I can vouch for Sara's concealed weapon.  She pulled it on me
        in the lobby  one  day.  In all actuality, it's very uncommon
        for anyone, male or  female to be without a knife in Vermont.
        There's usually a need for  one  at some point, whether it be
        for opening mail, for use as a screwdriver, for cleaning your
        finger nails, or shredding your bosses office. :^)  
        
        Knives aren't really considered `weapons' per se in  Vermont.
        I'd have to say they're just like wearing a watch.
        
        JMHO. . .
        
        Matt
635.74BRABAM::PHILPOTTCol I F 'Tsingtao Dhum' PhilpottWed Jan 16 1991 12:0919
    
    re the sgean dubh (a dozen or so back) making Scots formal dress
    illegal.
    
    1) technically any weapon may render you liable for prosecution, *but*
    this one is covered by eminent tradition
    
    2) the law takes a dimmer view of concealed weapons, and since neither
    the sgean dubh nor the dirk are concealed this helps.
    
    On the other hand a Scot involved in a fracas in a bar might well find
    himself charged with aggravated assault (ie carrying the weapon).
    
    Finally I once (at Aberdeen) saw a Scot in full formal dress talk
    himself onto a plane with his dirk and sgean dubh after setting off the
    metal detectors with the firm assurance "Laddy, these are nae weapons,
    these are clothes" ...
                                                                 
    /. Ian .\
635.76SA1794::CHARBONNDYeh, mon, no problemWed Jan 16 1991 19:1611
    re .64 Try to find a catalog from "Smoky Mountain Knife Works",
    some of their stuff approaches jewelry in design/materials/finish.
    Lots of small, almost miniature models. The craftsmanship from
    some of the smaller shops is amazing - too pretty to use :-)
    
    In bygone days, and perhaps still in rural parts of America, it was
    a rite of passage for a boy to receive a pocket-knife for his
    eighth birthday. Don't know what 8-year-old girls received.
    
    Since I've carried a pocketknife constantly for the last 17 years
    I sometimes find it hard to believe that everybody else _doesn't_.
635.77Don't have oneHENRYY::HASLAM_BACreativity UnlimitedThu Jan 17 1991 13:232
    no.
    
635.78no, i don't carry a knife VIA::HEFFERNANJuggling FoolThu Jan 17 1991 17:255
WSD40 and Duct tape...

The Yin and Yang of America.


635.79I *love* my Swiss Army Knife!NEMAIL::KALIKOWDThe Kurds will get their way! :-)Sun Jan 20 1991 02:2639
635.80CALS::MALINGMirthquake!Mon Jan 21 1991 23:337
    Re: -.1 carrying duct tape
    
    If you take a length of duct tape off the roll and roll it up into
    a smaller flat roll it will fit in your pocket.  That's how the ski
    patrol was carrying it.
    
    -Mary
635.81easier to startSA1794::CHARBONNDYeh, mon, no problemTue Jan 22 1991 12:221
    re .80 ...and use a popsicle stick to wrap it around.
635.82Don't go out without it ...GLDOA::PAGELPeekin' under the rocks ... Sat Jan 26 1991 22:128
    Yup, I carry one.  I'll admit though, that in the last year or so,
    it's gotten more use cutting cheese and opening wine bottles than
    much else!
    
    C.
    
    
    
635.83absolutelyCIVIC::ROBERTSsing us a songFri Feb 01 1991 12:2712
    
    And the best thing is my daughter gave it to me about 8 yrs ago.  I
    think it was a sign :-) .  It's a Swiss Army knife with lots of goodies
    on it...scissors/can opener/awl = anything Ayla would need and more! 
    I put a yupped up touch to it by getting an LL Bean carry case.  And
    the knife goes everywhere - skiing, hiking, Harvard Square; you never
    know when you'll need it!
    
    I also carry a calculator almost everywhere...I guess that's a
    precision issue on my part though.
    
    Carol
635.84yupMRED::SMALLERDress in blackFri Feb 01 1991 12:523
    Just got a Swiss army knife for my birthday......I'll be carrying
    it with me from now on.
    
635.85must of been a great evening...NAC::BENCEShetland Pony School of Problem SolvingFri Feb 01 1991 20:067
    
    Hurrah!  Last night I found my Swiss Army knife in the pocket of a
    black silk jacket I haven't worn since last summer.  
    
    It's still unclear why I would have needed the knife while wearing 
    that particular garment.
    					clb
635.86Another Swiss Army knife voteDECWET::DADDAMIOTesting proves testing worksTue Feb 12 1991 19:178
    My husband bought me a small two-blade pocketknife shortly after we got
    married ("No one should be without a pocketknife!").  Somehow I lost
    it two years or so ago but my brother picked up a Swiss Army knife for 
    me on his honeymoon in Switzerland.  He got one with a Philips head
    screwdriver instead of a corkscrew (more appropriate for engineers). 
    It has two blades and the standard screwdriver/bottle opener/awl/etc.
    
    						Jan
635.87NOATAK::BLAZEKvision thingTue Feb 12 1991 20:026
    
    After this topic I feel so inferior and so foofy for not having
    a pocketknife that I am soon to become one of She of the Blades.
    
    Carla
    
635.88it's not easy being a feminist...WRKSYS::STHILAIREwe need the eggsTue Feb 12 1991 20:299
    I now carry a used pocketknife that was given to me by someone, who felt
    pity for me, because I said I didn't have one in this topic.
    
    But, I haven't had occasion to use it yet.  (Actually, I don't think I
    can get it *open*....)  (excuse me, sir, but do you think you could
    open this pocketknife for me....flutter..flutter...)
    
    Lorna
    
635.89Ya think ya KNOW a person!GWYNED::YUKONSECTeach PeaceTue Feb 12 1991 20:314
    Oh *sure*, Carla and Lorna!  Leave me all alone in the non-pocketknife
    carrying section.  snif
    
    E Grace
635.90RANGER::R_BROWNWe're from Brone III... Tue Feb 12 1991 20:457
E Grace:

   You're not alone.

   I don't carry a pocketknife, either. ;-)

                                                -Robert Brown III
635.93LEZAH::BOBBITTa pickax a compass & night gogglesWed Feb 13 1991 01:1811
    one consideration in carrying a pocket knife is to ensure it is legal
    where you are carrying it, and how you are carrying it.  Frankly, I use
    the screw driver thingummies and the can opener thingummy (helps pry
    off the tops of drygas bottles in winter!) far more often than I use
    the blade- so there goes the concept of my being dangerous!
    
    And those of you who don't carry knives can carry - the dreaded -
    (*gasp*) - "Switchcombs"!
    
    -Jody
    
635.94:-)NOVA::FISHERIt's your Earth too, love it or leave it.Wed Feb 13 1991 10:397
    I remember one of the times I flew to Europe the captain announced that
    the lady who had been carrying the Swiss Army Knife and the Louisville
    Slugger could pick them up at the gate.
    
    :-)
    
    ed
635.95ah, in the majority for once in my life :-)BTOVT::THIGPEN_SI'm the journeyWed Feb 13 1991 11:259
    one of the nice things about Vermont is that most everybody carries a
    pocketknife.  But I *still* got weird looks last week when I used it to
    cut up the meat I put in my salad...  I mean, they'd rather see me
    spray the salad all over when the plastic knife breaks???
    
    cheyenne, E, and a few others (sorry I can't remember all of you) who
    do not carry a knife:  no problem!  Who said you have to?
    
    Sara
635.96...but thanks anyway! Gosh, I missed you folkGWYNED::YUKONSECTeach PeaceWed Feb 13 1991 12:046
    THANKYOUTHANKYOUTHANKYOU, Robert and cheyenne lacking_blade!  I don't
    feel so all alone now.  whew!
    
    Oh, and -d?  About the only thing graceful about me is my name!  (*8
    
    E Grace
635.100sorry, wrong note! (*8 GWYNED::YUKONSECFreeway Condition: HUG ME!Tue Feb 19 1991 14:459
    hi eagles!
    
    No, I believe that I have at least *some*thing in common with every
    human, so either Robert and I both get one, or neither!  so there.
    
    Anyway, methinks Robert and I actually have much in common.  We may
    express it differently, but hey!  You say Potahto and I say potato.
    
    E Grace
635.101What wrong note? It's .100, isn't it? :-)REGENT::BROOMHEADDon't panic -- yet.Tue Feb 19 1991 15:460
635.102GUESS::DERAMODan D'EramoTue Feb 19 1991 16:455
        re -< What wrong note?  It's .100, isn't it?  :-) >-
        
        Why so it is!  E snagged a C.
        
        Dan
635.103BTOVT::THIGPEN_Ssun flurriesTue Feb 19 1991 17:478
    Eagles!  welcome back!  I've missed your tag lines.
    
    I tried carrying my knife in my pocketbook, but in my pocketbook, 
    these little scrungles of lint and leather bits seem to arise by
    spontaneous generation, and they gunk up the works.  Besides, I carry
    my pockets with me everywhere, but not my pocketbook.
    
    Sara
635.104saved by VictorinoxSPCTRM::RUSSELLWed Feb 20 1991 16:2919
    Yep, I carry a pocketknife.  Swiss Army knife, traveller model (with
    corkscrew, scissors, tweezer, and toothpick).  It was a gift on
    my 20th birthday from my best friend.
    
    It got me a job once.
    
    I always carry it.  I was interviewing for a job right out of college
    and was not really hopeful of getting that one.  BUT...  during
    the second interview, a picture fell off the wall of the office
    and the frame came apart.  The two interviewers went over the pick
    up the picture and tried to fix it.
    
    I got out my trusty knife (with two screwdrivers!) and offered to
    fix the frame.  I finished fixing it.  They offered me the job saying
    that I'd gotten it for resourcefulness.  Yay.
    
       Margaret   
    
    P.S.  Sure is good to be back.