Conference turris::womannotes-v3

>    1. We are located in Colorado and it's hard to have people relocated
>    out here. Especially if you are from a dual career family, you have to
>    have two jobs lined up here before you can move, but the economy in

Interview Lesbians. If you're lucky, you could find a couple that would
both want to move to your group.

>    2. Our group has a strong slant toward higher degreed engineers. 

Is there a list of consulting engineers for this corporation? Many women
network with each other; if you could find a woman consulting engineer, even
if she doesn't do databases, maybe she could help you.

Check the GEEP office; see if they put any women through programs in DB (or if
they can help you at all).

>    4. A lot of people who work here landed on this job because they
>    already knew someone who work here.  We really do not have women's
>    personal connection and it's a disadvantage.

Can you hook up with other groups doing DB? Via notesfiles or conferences? Of
course, it's incredibly bad manners to steal anyone from another group, but
making connections, and mentioning the market, might help.
      
>    My boss said the ratio of resumes come across his desk is 100 male 
>    resumes to 1 female resume and it has been very hard to recruit
>    women.

How do resumes get to his desk in the first place? Maybe you can help there.
For instance, I didn't have OS on my resume, and it would never have gotten to
the group I'm in unless I knew someone in the group (point 4). And I was
eminently qualified for the job I did; it's just that I didn't have the silly
keyword match. Maybe a more sophisticated algorithm?

	Mez

    I think the problem is the location (CXO).  You'd have a lot easier
    time recruiting women for these positions if the openings were in an
    area with more oppurtunities - as you noted, most professional women
    are in two-career families and are going to find it hard to relocate,
    so your best approach may be to try to target new college graduates
    (who tend to have fewer roots anyhow).  You'd be hiring the latest
    academic theories that way (may be good or bad...).
    
    My master's thesis was on relational database query optimizations, by
    the way.  But I don't want to move to CXO; if I left New England it
    would be for Silicon Valley or Minneapolis.  My SO works in NaC, and I
    currently write VLSI CAD software in Hudson, MA (HLO).  Even with the
    depressed economy around here, there are enough oppurtunites for
    two-career families.
    
    /Charlotte
                                                       

re .0

I don't have any statistics to back this up, but when I was in college I 
worked for a professor whose specialty was databases.  He had seven or eight 
grad students studying under him.  Of those, three were women, and two were
PhD candidates.  This appeared to be typical.  
    
Also, in a class I took at the same university last year (3 years after
I graduated) there were six people enrolled, and two were women.  One
was a masters student, and one was a PhD candidate.  

Admittedly, these are tiny samples.

Matt

    
    I think that hiring women into any engineering group is difficult.  I
    am a software engineer for the Merlin, (Ultrix MCC), group and we even
    have a couple of outside rec's.  However, I personally went through
    about 200 resume's and 3 of them were women.  Of those women none had
    the qualifications that we're looking for.  (BTW- only 5or 6 men had
    those qualifications.)  The people (all men but me), in my group are
    very conscious of the gender imbalance but they can't find any
    qualified women either.  I think that when you're looking for senior
    engineer and above, there's not too many women out there.  (So that's
    why the percentage of women is less than what you might see in
    college.)  And, we're in Mass.
    
    Rachael
    

    
    Well, we knew that female engineer with Database background is hard to
    find.  We were hoping that since we are going to have unix related
    positions this year, we can fill out some of the unix reqs with women, 
    but it sounds discouraging.
    
    I guess unix background is in high demand and hard to get also.
    
    	sigh...
    	Masami 

did somebody say unix AND Colorado in the same sentence? 
hmmmm... :-)

Jenna