Conference turris::womannotes-v2

	Back when I worked at PKO2 (then PK2) in the Hotline area (which
	was right by the lobby and the two hall walls were large glass
	windows) there was a very unofficial contest that went on between
	a number of (now and then) senior women for spoting the arrival
	of the "best male buns" in the building.

	I won't mention any names (of the female participants or the
	male winners) since I think they all still work for DEC.

	If I remember correctly, it wasn't just tight jeans that made
	the difference, though it helped.  Ah, yes those were the days.

	One of the contestants still looks good today.

	_peggy

	BTW - I think that this "evaluation" process has spread to
		the halls of ZKO.

>    Inspired by the note on Boudoir Photography, this note serves to
>    illustrate that there *are* very many visual details about men that 
>    women find sexy and that have been traditionally ignored by the media.

Just wanted to point out that the existence of the posters and advertisements
discussed in the Boudoir Photography note do show that the media doesn't
*entirely* ignore women's attraction to men's bodies.  Thank goodness! :-)

While it is true that it is underrepresented, there are publications, posters
and the like devoted to appreciation of the male body as well as the female
body.  (Playgirl pops to mind.)  As anyone knows who has seen the Calvin
Klein underwear ads in magazines, ad companies are not forgetting that
women like looking at men, and men want to be looked at (and liked) by
women...

D!

    
    Its funny, this. I remember in my youth, having someone stuff a
    Playgirl centerfold in my locker. I nearly gagged! At that point, and
    ever since, I have realized that I have no need or interest in seeing
    an unclothed male whom I do not know. NO appeal.
    
    However, a rippling chest in a pair of slimming pants complete with bow
    tie, as in the Chippendale ads, warms my soul... as does the back end
    of the guy who pumps gas at the Texaco on Highland Ave in Worcester.
    (Yeah, I know. If a man said this, he'd be LYNCHED... I'll delete it
    eventually in the interests of good taste.)
    
    The photo that would appeal most to me would be a man on his side,
    propped by his arm with either underwear or jeans on. Only. And he'd
    BETTER not have a belly. Also, preferably no chest hair. Add a come
    hither look, and I'm his. 

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DELNI::P_LEEDBERG "Memory is the second"             21 lines  10-NOV-1989 16:56
                          
      >              -< If they only knew.... >-
    
What makes you think we males *don't* know? 
    
We're all not totally unaware. :-)
    
      >	BTW - I think that this "evaluation" process has spread to
		the halls of ZKO.

 And in PKO, MLO, MRO, MKO......................
    
   Alan

 Having a wife that manages a motel provides me with a number of amusing
stories.

 A man and his new bride checked into the motel while Lois was on the desk.
They checked out the next day. The housekeepers found a picture of the man,
buck naked, standing in the woods. They figured they'd get some mileage out of
this, so they placed it over my picture on my wife's desk. She saw it and
started laughing. So she took it and put it in an envelope, and put it in her
desk, knowing it would come in useful someday. The next day, Lois came in, and
my wife knew the time was now. Stephanie told Lois that the man had left
something for her, and retrieved the envelope. When Lois saw the contents,
she was shocked (because she thought the guy had left it for her). She dropped
it like it bit her, and didn't realize that she was the brunt of a joke until
she saw everyone rolling with laughter. 

 Her husband had a great reaction. "You're not going back." :-) She still
works there.

 The Doctah

    Yes.  A nicely developed set of pecs (not overdone like professional
    body-builders) and cute buns get my vote any day.  William Hurt
    springs to mind.  Ah yes.
    
    Also, New York is full of bicycle messengers and joggers in those
    lord-have-mercy-spandex pants!  Almost makes living here worthwhile!
    New York, New York, so nice they named it twice.
    
    
    

>William Hurt springs to mind.  Ah yes.
 
<gasp> <pant> You too?  I first saw him in "Children of a Lesser God" so it
is hard to seperate how much of my crush is on him and how much is one the
character he played, but still.  A man with brains, bod, *and* warmth and
compassion to boot...<swoon>.  (And I am a sucker for the cute, sensitive
puppy-dog look...)

(Unfortunately he was too damn good at playing the shallow, rather 
unintelligent twit in "Broadcast News"...but I try not to hold it against him.)
D!

    Maybe I'm beginning my 2nd childhood, or never got out of the first,
    but I think Axl Rose is incredibly sexy.  I think it's the contrast
    between his ridiculously Politically Incorrect opinions and the
    sensitivity of his songs like "Patience" and "Sweet Child O Mine"
    and the way he sings "Knockin' On Heavens Door."  I like the long
    hair, the cute face, the tattoo, the clothes.  He may be a jerk
    but he's certainly a sexy looking jerk.
    
    Lorna
    

	 RE: .8 (Lorna)

	 Hubba hubba......Axl is good looking without his
	 beard....(I'm not a beard woman...well, only in certain
	 instances)
	 
>    but I think Axl Rose is incredibly sexy.  I think it's the contrast
>    between his ridiculously Politically Incorrect opinions and the
>    sensitivity of his songs like "Patience" and "Sweet Child O Mine"


	 But just a nit...............Axl's lyrics have a lot of
	 hidden meanings to them, and he's probably not half as PI as
	 you think he is...........he's just got a very different view
	 of things in this world.......dig deep into his lyrics and
	 you'll see some interesting developments.

	 kat

    Usually I go for the rugged type - i.e. Sam Elliot
    
    However, Saturday, I found myself admiring the way my hair dresser
    (Angelo) looks in a tight pair of jeans.  And he's not at all
    rugged....hmmmmmm, maybe it's time for me to get back into
    "circulation"!  
    
    Polly
    
    P.S.  And if you like the young tall dark and handsome types, check out
    the kid who plays "Booker" on Fox TV.

    I like a well-dressed, well-groomed man (definitely not Axl Rose,
    yuck - sorry Lorna).  I prefer brunettes with big eyes, dimples,
    a nice set of teeth.  I like tall men, 6.2 or so, big chest and
    arms (but not belly) nice legs.  Not too hairy.  That's one thing
    that is a turn off - men with hair on their back and neck - blahh!
    He must have an IQ higher than a pea.  If there's one thing that's
    a let down is when you see this guy that you think is attractive
    and you make eye contact with him and when he finally opens his
    mouth you wish you never saw him.  Don't get me wrong here - I'm
    a sucker for those good looking construction workers, but overall,
    I prefer a professional man.
    
    And now you're all saying "keep dreaming Alice, you'll get to
    Wonderland!"
    
    Well, that's just what I find attractive in men, not to mention,
    nice buns, etc. etc.

    Barechested, a pair of 501's with a couple of buttons undone.  Cutoffs
    and t-shirt, spandex, jogging shorts....a Zegna suit, oxford cloth
    shirt, silk tie, tux....
    
    ..dale
     

	 RE: -.1 dale

	 Go ahead.....admit it...


	 just anyone that looks like Kevin Costner....

	 

	 :-)

	 kat     

    Okaykaykaykayaky, its lunchtime here.  I'll admit it, but add, Dennis
    Quaid, Mel Gibson and a lot of Aussie males around town.  Lookin'
    forward to arriving in May (^' (^'
    
    ..dale
    

    
    	This note is one heckuva way to start the day!
    
    	I like tall thin men with lots of luscious long hair.  On one's
    	head is about the only place I like lots of hair.  Hairy backs,
    	necks, ears, noses and all of that is deeeeeeeeeesgusting.
    
    	Lorna, I think Axl's got great hips.
    
    	Carla
    

    Anyone ever see the New York model named Atilla?  Since he's male,
    and sexy, he's not as prevalent in the media as Christy or Paulina or
    Carol or Kim or Kelly or Cindy or the quadrillion other women who
    are plastered all over the place because men like to look at them.
    
    But some years back, he was one of the first to bring long hair for
    men back "in".  Waist length, beautiful hair, fantastic face and
    body, (lean and in shape, not bumpy with muscles), and he's posed
    for "modeling" layouts the way most of the female models are - "modeling", 
    (displaying), simply himself, selling the magazine rather than any 
    of the clothes involved, (despite a cursory description of the clothes
    which accompanies these kinds of layouts as a decoy).  You should
    have seen the shot from behind with only his jeans on, hair blowing
    in the wind.  That photographer knew the score.  Old, ugly men posing
    in broad daylight with their units flapping in the breeze, a la
    Playgirl, just doesn't do it.
    
    And lastly, a spread photographer Tana Kaleya did for Viva magazine
    back in the 70s is the sexiest treatment of the male body I've ever
    seen.  She posed him, naked, (lean, long-haired, little body hair 
    like most of us seem to like!), in a bed with rumpled white sheets.  
    There was lots of other stuff in the close-shot pictures, (curtains, 
    flowers, antique furniture, etc. a la Penthouse), and soft lighting.  
    The guy was alone, deep in thought and having a good time.  You saw
    nothing "clinical", you didn't even see his face.  But his head
    was back into the pillow, his legs were tensed, you knew where his
    gorgeous arms led and it *really* made you want to be there -
    something "erotica for women" rarely achieves.  If anyone knows
    anything more about this photgrapher and her work, please let me
    know.

    
    
    re: .12 & .13 >
    
    
    	DEFINATELY!  Let's face it K.C. is about as close to perfection as
    			one gets!
    
    
    
    				-R
    

    Please take the specific popular male discussion to topic 645, titled
    "who is the sexiest man alive"....
    
    Other discussions pertinent to the basenote include
    
    womannotes-v2
    658 - sexiness (tangent to topic 645)
    
    womannotes-v1
    809 - what makes you feel sexy (FGD)
    822 - suppression of female sexuality
    
    -Jody
    

    I dunno, Jody.  I think this topic should stand unrelated to anything.
    When you talk to men about their analogous images, the theme that
    comes up again and again, (no pun intended), is that the
    "appreciation" of the image is completely separate from the rest of
    their lives.  According to them, admiring these images does not
    detract from or in any way affect their desires for or their re-
    lationships with "real" women.  In essence, they all seem to say they 
    know this is "not real life but so what".
    
    So I think it's a mistake to try and integrate the appreciation
    of sexy male images with women's overall feelings - the ones they
    use in their real lives, i.e. "what makes you feel sexy" or "sexiness".
    Because these broader concepts involve much more - security, the right 
    words, a nice setting, the potential for more, etc.
     
    I'm not suggesting that this is what you were specifically trying
    to do.  I think the mods do a great job at cross referencing topics.
    I just wanted to point out that this topic should be completely
    separate from women's "real lives".  This string should deal not
    with men but with sexy images of them, just as male lust-fodder deals 
    not with women, but with specific, male-lust-inducing images of
    them, (which takes far more than a model alone), as we well know.

    just one small vote here for men with lots of body hair..
    
    they also can be *very* sexy.
    :-)

    What I wanted to see carried over to the "sexiest men" topic was notes
    like "Bon Jovi is gorgeous" and "Bruce Springsteen is incredible" and
    "Don Johnson really makes me whimper".  
    
    The rest belongs here.  Something about redundant notes sets me off.
    
    -Jody
    

    re .19, you say that men (and I agree, men do this) always explain
    to women in regard to famous sex symbols that "the appreciation
    of the image is completely separate from the rest of their lives.
     According to them, admiring these images does not detract from
    or in any way affect their desires for or their relationships with
    real women."
    
    This may be true for most men, but it isn't true for me in reverse,
    and I find it very frustrating.  For example, I was watching "Rattle
    and Hum" the other evening, and realized that I was beginning to
    get very pissed off that the majority of "real" men do not measure
    up to my image of Bono- sexy, liberal, talented.  I actually found
    myself thinking, "I want *him* dammit.  Not the average guy on the
    street."  In real life, of course, I can't have Bono (dammit), but
    I know that my ideas of who is acceptable to me romantically and
    who isn't have been strongly affected by the famous men (rock stars
    and movie stars) whom I have been admiring all my life.
    
    Lorna
    

>     According to them, admiring these images does not detract from
>    or in any way affect their desires for or their relationships with
>    real women."
    
>    This may be true for most men, but it isn't true for me in reverse,
>    and I find it very frustrating. 

 Lorna- perhaps this is due to the tendency for men to 'admire the female form'
in a less multi-dimensional manner than you. You say "'real' men do not measure
up to my image of Bono- sexy, liberal, talented." I would venture to guess that
a predominate number of men would look at the _body_ of a woman from the
perspective of it being a beautiful form, especially when it is presented in
a single dimensional media like a magazine. (And I understand that this is
a white hot button for women, having their bodies separated from their being.)

 This is not to say that men don't think of women as more than 'something pretty
to look at.' But many men like to simply appreciate the aesthetic beauty of
the female body in abstract, aside from the woman the body is a part of.

 I'm not sure my point is getting across. A generalization would be that men
are more amenable to looking at a single aspect of a woman; women seem to
seek to appreciate the whole package.

 It's a try...

 The Doctah

	I think that Lorna has hit on something - It is the real
	person not the form that is sexy to me.  Michealanglo's (?)
	David is beautiful near perfect in form but is still made
	out of stone - I perfer someone with a really good mind
	and a maybe not so great body to a great bod but mindless.

	_peggy

		(-)
		 |
			Even at a distance - there has to be
			a degree of depth in their eyes.

    Lorna, just a tangent, (or is it a tangent?):
    
    You say, (you admit!), that you project a whole lot of positive qualities
    onto the image you see.  In real life, Bono could well be an
    alcoholic, drug-dependent woman-beater or for that matter, gay.  In 
    either case, it doesn't make him, *as a real person*, good lover 
    potential for women.
    
    The image is only the image.
    
    My contention is that you however, have spoken honestly, as I assumed
    women would.  You're not bothering with any meaningless, regurgitated
    phrases, ("it's art", "I just like to look", etc), because you aren't
    worried that men will be put off by your honesty.  I'm sure you
    don't feel your honesty has jeopardized your sex life.  I think
    most men feel the same way, (*most* doctah, maybe not you), but
    are loathe to admit it to women, (for fear of pissing them off and
    loosing sex privileges), or to themselves, (for fear of severe
    depression at wondering why they never get women like that for
    themselves).
    
    What I'm trying to say is that I believe most people *do* project onto
    images.  Otherwise, who'd bother to lust after a nameless person
    who well *could* be a murderer, a drunk, neurotic, someone with
    horrible hygiene, a nasty vaginal infection, aids, etc.  Do you think 
    men really *believe* that miss nipples of the month is of course a
    clean, lusty, heterosexual, perfect young poreless, unsweating woman who
    lives to give head?  Either they're awfully stupid, (in which case I'm 
    quitting my job and starting a skin mag), or they project.
    
    That's the very essence of "image" anyway - a collection of props
    and symbols to create an idea in the mind of the viewer.  I know
    I've said this before in another note, but a picture of the tail of a 
    horse will turn men on if they don't realize what it is.  They will
    "project" that it's the long hair of a woman which of course, equals
    sex.  Pose that tail next to an S curve, (a flesh colored S curve
    is even better), and they'll worship it.  I know.  I saw a horse's
    tail next to an S curve some Deccie had up in his office.  The
    wise and probably wealthy photographer threw in a flower and it 
    certainly resembled part of a young, nubile, Hawaiian female ripe 
    for the plucking.  Whether it was or not, the Deccie in question 
    didn't really care.  I'm sure he didn't even know because when I
    mentioned the picture, he responded with a macho growl so I didn't 
    have the heart to tell him what he was growling at.  In his mind, 
    it represented good sex and that was enough.  His mind filled in 
    the substantial and obvious blanks.
    
    I think it may be just culturalization, but women aren't generally
    fooled by images.  Shown the equivalent of a horse's tail, a woman
    will need more "information" before deciding if it's sexy or not.
    For men, the less *real* information, the better.
    
    Start another note if you want to explore this further.  The goal
    of this topic is to separate the image from the man - to find lust
    in a suggestion - to project all that you want onto all that you
    see, (and what you don't see!).
    
    And if you say it can't be done, I can only reiterate that I believe
    it's the result of the cultural bias against women dwelling on sexual 
    delights.  We have been taught to love, and taught not to lust.  Therefore,
    many women need complete information, i.e. need to know if he *is*
    a nice guy in reality, before they can even begin to consider lust.
    
    So try and forget the "good girl's don't" teachings.  Forget who's 
    going to pay the rent or stand by you once you imagine sex with this 
    image, get pregnant and have to raise the kid.  (Reality certainly
    *does* have a way of putting a damper on sex fun for women, no?)
    
    What kinds of one-dimensional images make you *assume* perfection? 

>You're not bothering with any meaningless, regurgitated
>    phrases, ("it's art", "I just like to look", etc), because you aren't
>    worried that men will be put off by your honesty.  I'm sure you
>    don't feel your honesty has jeopardized your sex life.  I think
>    most men feel the same way, (*most* doctah, maybe not you), but
>    are loathe to admit it to women, 

 I think I finally understand what you're getting at. You think by my saying
that I appreciate images of the female body, I am claiming that I am looking 
at aesthetics devoid of any sexual component. Not at all. (Obviously).

 I do believe that people can look at sexually stimulating images without it
adversely affecting one's romantic life (male or female). Just because I look
at a picture of a beautiful woman and lust for what I imagine her to be, doesn't
mean I am about to toss my wife aside or think any less of her. That, to me,
is the difference between fantasy and reality. It is nearly a separate issue,
fantasizing. It is in the realm of the unreal.

 This doesn't mean that lustful feelings are any different whether they are a
result of fantasy or reality. Just that one can still tell the difference
between fantasy and reality, even under the spell of lust.

 The Doctah

    
    I just can't resist. Here's a poem that says it all about men and
    how they react to images of beauty. It's by Robert Graves

    Down, wanton down! Have you no shame
    That at the whisper of Love's name,
    Or Beauty's, presto! up you raise
    Your angry head and stand at gaze?

    Poor bombard-captain, sworn to reach
    The ravelin and effect a breach -
    Indifferent what you storm or why,
    So be that in the breach you die!

    Love may be blind, but Love at least
    Knows what is man and what mere beast;
    Or Beauty wayward, but requires
    More delicacy from her squires.

    Tell me, my witless, whose one boast
    Could be your staunchness at the post,
    When were you made a man of parts
    To think fine and profess the arts?

    Will many-gifted Beauty come
    Bowing to your bald rule of thumb,
    Or Love swear loyalty to your crown?
    Be gone, have done! Down, wanton, down!

    
    	   I appreciate the openness and honesty being expressed
    	in this note, and would like to ask a few questions of the
    	general audience in order to gain a better understanding of
    	what women (in general) find sexy.
    
    	1) What is the preferred haircolor?
    		a) Blonde
    		b) Brunette
    		c) Redhead
    		d) Black
    		e) Anything but red
    		f) flourescent purple
    
    	2) What is the preferred hair length?
    		a) 1 inch flat top
    		b) No ear coverage
    		c) Half ear coverage
    		d) Shoulder length
    		e) Longer
    		f) Bald
    
    	3) Preferred height?
    		a) Same as you
    		b) Taller than you
    		c) Taller than a tree
    		d) Shorter than you
    		e) Knee high to a puissant
    
    	4) Preferred body shape?
    		a) Hour glass
    		b) D'anjou pear
    		c) Pumpkin
    		d) Pencil
    		e) Mont Blanc pen
    
    	5) Chest hair?
    		a) Hairless
    		b) Small tuft in center
    		c) Light coverage of entire chest
    		d) Thick coverage of entire chest
    		e) Hard shelled babboon chest
    
    	6) Stomach hair?
    		a) None
    		b) Thin V pointing toward groin
    		c) Thin covering of entire belly
    		d) Thick covering, including some in navel
    
    	7) Back hair?
    		a) None (complete turn-off)
    		b) A few, here and there (fun to pluck)
    		c) Gorilla fur (complete turn-on)
    
    	8) Buttucks shape?
    		a) Small, flat, practically non-existant
    		b) Small, firm, well rounded
    		c) Medium
    		d) Large, round
    		e) Enormous, flabby
    
    	9) Eye Color?
    		a) Blue
    		b) Brown
    		c) Green
    		d) Gray
    		e) Black
    		f) Bloodshot
    	
    	10) Facial hair?
    		a) Beard
    		b) Mustache
    		c) Nose hairs
    		d) Sideburns
    		e) All of the above
    	
    	11) More facial hair?
    		a) Bushy eyebrows
    		b) Thin eyebrows
    		c) Long eyelashes
    		d) No eyelashes
    		e) All of the above
    
    	12) Hand size?
    		a) Small
    		b) Medium
    		c) Large
    		d) Piano player
    
    	13) Muscularity?
    		a) Nerd/Geek
    		b) Blue collar
    		c) White collar (no gym membership)
    		d) White collar (with gym membership)
    		e) Bouncer
    		f) Mr. Universe
    		g) They don't come muscular enough for me
    
    	14) Voice?
    		a) Churchmouse 
    		b) Tenor       
    		c) Baritone    
    		d) Bass	    
    		e) Sub woofer
    
    	15) Jaw line?
    		a) Square, angular
    		b) Triangular, pointed
    		c) Rounded (with chin)
    		d) Rounded (no chin)
    		e) None of the above
    
    - Greg

    	Surely my dear C'saw...you've figured it out by now..
    
    		it's all of the above and none of the above...
    			there are no absolutes...love is unique...
    
    	best wishes,
    	Charlotte
    

    Greg,
    
    Like Charlotte, I also know the 'box is down, :-)
    
    and like her, my reply is all of the above and none
    of the above..
    
    chemistry is (thankfully for the human race) fairly independant
    of all but the most extremes in appearance?
    
    Bonnie
    
    p.s. where you hoping for tall, thin, dark haired and with
    a Tennesse accent?

    re.28 I never thought of my muscularity as 'blue collar'.
    Maybe I'll use that in a singles ad one of these days.
    
    'SWM, 36, blue-collar build, seeks compatible woman for...'
    
    Wonder what the readers will envision ? Callused hands and
    beer belly ? :-)
    
    Dana

    re: .29 & .30
    
    	   I'm confused.... I thought we were talking about what
    	makes men sexy, not what makes you fall in love with them.
    
    	   Have I misunderstood the intent of this topic?
    
    	- Greg

    no, Greg, you haven't missed the intent...
    
      ...just the point...;^).
    
    _anything_ can trigger a visceral response, so fine-tuning a 'type' is
    a needless exercise, at best.
    
      Ann
    
    

    in re .33 in re .32
    
    what she just said...
    
    Bonnie
    
    
    
    
    
    pc

    re: .33 & .34
    
    	   Okay, I'm with you on that one.  In fact, I was never
    	unaware of what you were saying.  In previous replies, 
    	some of the participants not only described some of the
    	features they like (hot buns, for example), but put names
    	to those features that all might have some common 
    	understanding (names like Mel Gibson, for example).  I 
    	was simply trying to find out what was and was not 'in vogue' 
    	among the female populace these days... that, and to have a
    	little fun putting together another of my infamous lists.
    
    	   Not that it really matters to me, of course.  There's only 
    	one opinion on the matter I really care about... but curiosity
    	prompted me to ask just the same.
    
    	- Greg

	 Okay, Greg...I'll bite.  This is the man that would catch my
	 eye in a crowd...that's not to say that men that do not fit
	 this do not catch my eye....I can think of one rather sexy
	 man right now that fits very little of this.......
	 
>    	1) What is the preferred haircolor?
>    		a) Blonde
>    		b) Brunette
    
>    	2) What is the preferred hair length?
>    		d) Shoulder length
>    		e) Longer
    
>    	3) Preferred height?
>    		b) Taller than you

>    	4) Preferred body shape?
>    		d) Pencil
>    		e) Mont Blanc pen
    
>    	5) Chest hair?
>    		a) Hairless
>    		c) Light coverage of entire chest
    
>    	6) Stomach hair?
>    		a) None
>    		b) Thin V pointing toward groin
    
>    	7) Back hair?
>    		a) None (complete turn-off)
    
>    	8) Buttucks shape?
>    		b) Small, firm, well rounded
>    		c) Medium
    
>    	9) Eye Color?
>    		a) Blue
>    		b) Brown
>    		c) Green
    	
>    	10) Facial hair?
>    		a) Beard    (SOMETIMES.......Kenny Login's look--short
	                     and well trimmed, but usually prefer
			     clean shaven)
    	
>    	11) More facial hair?
>    		c) Long eyelashes
    
>    	12) Hand size?
>    		b) Medium
>    		c) Large
    
>    	13) Muscularity?
>    		b) Blue collar
>    		c) White collar (no gym membership)
    
>    	14) Voice?
>    		b) Tenor       
>    		c) Baritone    
>    		d) Bass	    
    
>    	15) Jaw line?
>    		b) Triangular, pointed
>    		c) Rounded (with chin)
    


	 There.......how's that?  Just give me Kip Winger and I'll
	 stop complaining.  ;-)

	 kath

    re: .36 (Kath)
    
    	   Unfortunately, Kip Winger is not mine to offer.  My
    	sincere apologies. ;^)
    
    	- Greg

    Re .28, very cute, Greg.  Do you ever write for Cosmopolitan?  :-)
    
    Lorna
    

    re: .38 (Lorna)
    
    	   No, but I don't consider myself above that sort of thing.
    	I'll write for anyone who'll pay me to do so. ;^)
    
    	- Greg

    Greg, your questionnaire is valid and I'm even going to answer it,
    too.  I hope women don't make the expected mistake and say they
    are unable to separate body parts from a whole person to love.  
    But I won't be surprised.  We're not supposed to do that - only men
    are.
    
    I'll tell you right off, I've always preferred the dark haired ones
    but have fallen in love with a blonde or two along the way.  Still,
    I don't say "it doesn't matter" when asked about physical preferences.
    It doesn't matter when it comes to *love*, but please keep in mind
    we are not dealing with love in this string.  Separate -
    compartmentalize - you can do it because you know how men do it
    every day.
    
    So *when* you do, what do you come up with?  I'll take anyone who
    looks like Tom Cruise did in Rainman.  I'd *never* hurt Charlie
    Babbitt!  ;-)
    

    I think the most sexist male image alive ever has got to be no other
    than Jon-Jon John F. Kennedy jr.  If I could find a male just like
    that I would settle down in a heartbeat...................I just
    melt thinking of him..................................ehhhhhhh
    
    rle

I tend to go for the lean, strong kind of body -- any height.  I love
watching basketball players.  Hockey players usually have nice bodies,
too, but you can't see enough of them when they're dressed for a game.
Also some gymnasts, if they don't overdo it with the shoulders. 

Expressive eyes, any color, and a mouth that looks like it knows how to 
smile, kiss, or be serious.

Long hair is an almost automatic turnon, but it's not a requirement. 
Beard, not usually; moustache, fine; other hair, irrelevant.

A rich musical voice, not necessarily deep as long as it's expressive.  I
can melt to mush listening to the radio -- Stuart Adamson, lead singer for
Big Country, and Simon LeBon of Duran Duran can absolutely demolish any
common sense I might have.  

One thing that wasn't on Greg's list -- I like dark skin.  Not tanned but
naturally dark.  In Hawaii several years ago I bought a calendar of sexy 
Hawaiian men, not as explicit as Chippendale's but romantic -- I still 
have it even though it's four years out of date . . . 

Akeem Olajawon does it for me . . . oh, those LA Gear ads. 

I find really lusting after someone whose image turns me on doesn't
make me want to bed the man I'm looking at, it makes me want to go
find spouse and see if the electrical closet is unlocked. 

--bonnie

    do people really use the electrical closet

Well, I never have, even though I joke about it sometimes, but one evening
when I was working late I heard some sounds in there that didn't
sound like anything an electrician should have been doing by himself.

Not unless he had been in that men loving men seminar, anyway.

--bonnie

p.s. my office is about 10 ft. from the closet so I got a real good 
listen-in . . . 

    Is that the same thing as a "wiring closet?" Gee, that's where the
    object of our project is supposed to end up. Didn't know it was so
    sensually connected. :-)
    
     The Doctah

Yes, shocking, isn't it?

    
    
    
    		Christian Laettner, on the free-throw line for Duke.
    
    		Especially if it's a 1-and-1 (he concentrates harder ;-).
    
    							nancy b.