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Conference turris::womannotes-v1

Title:ARCHIVE-- Topics of Interest to Women, Volume 1 --ARCHIVE
Notice:V1 is closed. TURRIS::WOMANNOTES-V5 is open.
Moderator:REGENT::BROOMHEAD
Created:Thu Jan 30 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 30 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:873
Total number of notes:22329

256.0. "Swedish Abortion Pill" by MAY20::MINOW (I need a vacation) Fri Mar 27 1987 18:24

Copied from TLE::SCANDIA:

Associated Press Thu 26-MAR-1987 15:06                   Sweden-Abortion Pill

                         `Abortion' Pill in the Works
    
                                By JOHAN RAPP
                           Associated Press Writer
    
    STOCKHOLM, Sweden (AP) - Women may be able to abort pregnancies with a
    single pill within a few years, researchers said Thursday. 
    
    Professor Marc Bygdeman of Stockholm's Karolinska hospital said he
    tested a new drug on 600 pregnant women in Sweden, Italy, China, India,
    Hungary and other countries in cooperation with the World Health
    Organization. "Ninety-five percent of the tests were successful," he
    said. 
    
    Bygdeman said the women were given a combination of drugs over three
    days, beginning within three weeks of a missed menstrual period. He
    said the drugs' side effects were no more serious than those of a
    spontaneous miscarriage - bleeding and painful contractions. 
    
    Bygdeman said the treatment combined a hormone developed in Sweden with
    a drug produced by Etienne Baulieu of the University of Paris Sud. 
    
    Paul Van Look, a WHO medical officer in Geneva, said a French company
    plans to apply this year for a license to distribute Baulieu's drug,
    and it may be on the market in two or three years. He said the French
    drug worked in 85 to 90 percent of the cases. Van Look said WHO wanted
    such drugs for use in Third World nations that lack modern facilities
    for surgical abortions. 
    
    The Swedish hormone has been approved as safe by authorities here. The
    French drug must be registered before it can be used in treatment in
    Sweden. "It seems quite possible that eventually all you do is to take
    one pill, once," Bygdeman said. He predicted it could take four or five
    years before such a pill was on the market. 
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256.1Abortion PillCSC32::JOHNSMon Mar 30 1987 20:249
    I am glad that women may have the opportunity for a quick and
    relatively easy abortion in the future.
    
    I have a terrible thought about it, though.  I can only hope that
    obtaining this pill is not easy, for I would hate to be the object
    of a deranged man or woman who drops the pill in my drink while
    I am pregnant.  Is my fear unfounded that this might happen to someone?
        
              Carol
256.2Not the solutionTOOK::LIZBICKIMon Mar 30 1987 20:4814
    
    That is scary, Carol, and I didn't even think about it!  This doesn't
    sound like the type of stuff that would be available over the counter
    though.
    
    I also hope people will not use it as a solution;  meaning forget
    about preventing a pregnancy in the first place, just abort it if
    it happens.  Even if the effects are similar to a spontaneous
    miscarriage, it doesn't seem like too many of them would be good
    for you (possibly even lessen the chances of having a baby in
    the future?)  However, it does sound better than the abortions of
    today.
    
    
256.3I agreeCADSYS::SULLIVANKaren - 225-4096Tue Mar 31 1987 13:5316
    
>	Even if the effects are similar to a spontaneous
>    miscarriage, it doesn't seem like too many of them would be good
>    for you (possibly even lessen the chances of having a baby in
>    the future?)  

	By saying that the effects are similar to a spontaneous abortion,
	they tend to minimize the danger involved.   Spontaneous abortions
	are not always like just having your menses.  They can cause
	hemorhaging, and can be fatal. 

	I whole-heartedly agree with you that this cannot replace birth
	control.  I also think that using this pill under a doctor's care
	can be a lot safer than surgery.

	...Karen
256.4GOJIRA::PHILPOTTIan F. ('The Colonel') PhilpottTue Mar 31 1987 14:0833
256.5mineGENRAL::FRASHERAn opinion for any occasionTue Mar 31 1987 18:0532
    re .1
>    I have a terrible thought about it, though.  I can only hope that
>    obtaining this pill is not easy, for I would hate to be the object
>    of a deranged man or woman who drops the pill in my drink while
>    I am pregnant.  Is my fear unfounded that this might happen to someone?
    
    This fear is about as unfounded as the fear of finding cyanide in
    your Tylenol capsule.  Given a chance, the crazies out there will
    find something to do.
    
    My biggest concern would be what would happen if the woman used
    the pill after, say, 6 months.  It *will* happen.  Believe it. 
    I once knew a woman who used tampons.  She didn't know you had to
    take them out, so she just kept stuffing them in until she went
    to the hospital for severe abdominal cramps.  I never found out
    where she thought they all went.
    
    A friend of mine ate deep fried shrimp, tails and all, because he
    didn't know the tails came off.  Likewise, pinon nuts.  Shell and
    all.  He commented on how much better they felt to his throat without
    the shells.  I sometimes wonder how much better the *other* end
    felt. 
    
    And, for a little humor, a joke.
    A woman, not wanting to get PG, asked her two lovers to wear condoms.
    After 6 months, one brother turned to the other and said, "I don't
    care if she gets PG or not, I'm taking off this damned rubber."
                                    
    Invent anything and give explicit instructions and someone will
    find a way to abuse it.
    
    spence
256.6You shouldn't be pregnant for your own goodSSDEVO::YOUNGERI haven't lost my mind - it's Backed-up on tape somewhereTue Mar 31 1987 23:2622
    I don't believe that .1 was saying that she was concerned about
    them being substituted for asprin in the grocery store with by a
    Tylenol-murder-type crazy, but rather someone she thinks she knows
    who for whatever reason doesn't think she should be pregnant (possibly
    with a 'for her own good' reasoning) or doing it as a joke.  I have
    known several women who were in a high risk group for pregnancy,
    or knew they were going to have a defective baby, but their morals
    dictated that they continue the pregnancy.  I have seen some of
    these women put up with a lot of well-meaning friends, family, and
    acquaintances telling them that they should abort.  I can hypothesize
    that one of this type of people might try to take things into their
    own hands - taking the choice away from the woman involved.  Another
    possibly scary situation is if the husband/lover does not want her
    to have the baby, and she does (after having got pregnant
    accidentally), he could slip her one of these pills, and once again,
    remove the woman's choice in the matter.
    
    I also agree that these should be carefully regulated so that they
    only get into the hands of the people who want to use them.
    
    Elizabeth
    
256.7Abortion PillCSC32::JOHNSWed Apr 01 1987 13:4622
    Actually, Elizabeth, I had not thought of that, but I do believe
    some SO's would be so devious as to do such a thing.  In general,
    I just don't like someone having that kind of nasty power over my
    life and health.
    
    When I was in high school, my mother was made Assistant Principal.
    She was tough, but fair, but the previous AP had been very ill and
    had not disciplined, so my mother's style was quite a shock to the
    trouble students.  It took them a year to get used to her (and love
    her), and in the meantime they did everything possible to make *my* 
    life miserable.  They punched me and tried to get me alone so that 
    they could beat me up (10 to 1 odds).  It was discovered that there 
    was a plot to put LSD in my coke at lunch.  I was very careful for
    several weeks after this that I should never let my food out of
    my sight, even for an instant.
    
    The thought that some terrible person could purposely make me lose
    a baby in such a simple way is a frightening one, and though I am
    in favor of safe and healthy abortions (by choice) I do not like
    the idea that someone could make that choice for you.

                   Carol
256.8yes, I know there are crazies out there, but...KLAATU::THIBAULTSwimmers Do It WetterWed Apr 01 1987 14:557
I gotta believe that if, and when, this pill becomes a reality it will
be hard to come by. Meaning it will only be given to a positively pregnant
woman and probably taken under supervision. I find it hard to believe that
it will become an over-the-counter drug and easily had by anyone who wants
it. But then again, stranger things have happened.

Bahama Mama