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Conference turris::womannotes-v1

Title:ARCHIVE-- Topics of Interest to Women, Volume 1 --ARCHIVE
Notice:V1 is closed. TURRIS::WOMANNOTES-V5 is open.
Moderator:REGENT::BROOMHEAD
Created:Thu Jan 30 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 30 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:873
Total number of notes:22329

291.0. ""MY FAIR LADY"FILM CLASSIC" by VENTUR::POZNICK () Thu Apr 23 1987 14:54

    Recently saw the 50"S film classic"MY FAIR LADY" on the Disney Channel,
    and I got to wondering,could a 1987 remake of this film be made
    with the same lyrics,music and words with which stars?
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291.1clarification????DEBIT::RANDALLBonnie Randall SchutzmanThu Apr 23 1987 15:026
    I'm not sure why you want to remake it?  I could see wanting to tell
    the same story in a different way, but I'm not sure why you'd want to
    simply reuse the same script and everything, but just plugg in
    different faces. 

    --bonnie, obviously missing something
291.2A comedy this time?NETCOM::HANDELThu Apr 23 1987 15:065
    It would be fun to see a remake of this movie.  I see Barbra Streisand
    and (maybe) Jeremy Irons (can he sing? Probably no worse than Rex
    Harrison) starring.
    
    I could also see John Clouse (?) in that part as well.  What a riot!
291.3HARDY::HENDRICKSThu Apr 23 1987 17:308
    Well, if you are interested in the prototype, check out Shaw's
    Pygmalion.
    
    I remember when Audrey Hepburn was chosen over Julie Andrews for
    the screen version of the role which Andrews had made so famous...there
    was quite an uproar among Andrews fans.  (It's interesting to think
    of films made while I was a teenager as classics, too!)  I think
    it may have actually been made around '63 or '64.      
291.4an old motif in Western cultureDEBIT::RANDALLBonnie Randall SchutzmanThu Apr 23 1987 17:4721
    The Pygmalion legend -- of a man creating a perfect woman and having
    her come to life -- goes back to the Greeks.  Sometimes the man learns
    he's better off with a real woman; sometimes the evil of woman leads to
    his death; always he learns that the gifts of the gods are treacherous.
    It's been the theme of probably hundreds of stories in various forms.
    When I was in college, I read a scholarly analysis of the different
    threads of the legend (might have been by Kate Millet???). The author
    concluded that it's an attempt on the part of men to invent a mythical
    woman who he can in fact control, rather than have a real woman
    with a mind of her own. 
    
    I can't conclude that she was wrong, either. 
    
    The most recent retelling is the movie "Mannequin."  It's about a man
    who falls in love with a store-front mannequin, and she comes to life
    whenever he's the only one around. I haven't seen it because the ads
    make it look like the ultimate in men wanting an idealized beauty
    with no brains or even heart.
    
    --bonnie 
291.5Sweet Revenge...NAC::BENCEThat which we accept, we teach.Thu Apr 23 1987 17:579
    
    	Re .3
    
    	When Julie Andrews accepted the Oscar for her role in
    	"Mary Poppins" she thanked the man who made it all possible
    	- the producer of "My Fair Lady".
    
    						{cathy}
    
291.6I could grow accustomed to her faceLIGHTN::MINOWI need a vacationThu Apr 23 1987 18:152
re: .0, how about Mick Jagger and Tina Turner

291.7SOFTY::HEFFELFINGERThe valient Spaceman Spiff!Thu Apr 23 1987 19:1820
    	Re: the casting suggestions of Jagger and Turner of Streisand
    and Irons...  I'll think I'll throw up now...  (Just my opinion
    you realize...)
    
    	re: Make it a comedy this time...  Excuse me?  I kinda sorta
    thought it already was one.
    
    	Re: nothing in particular...
    	When Shaw wrote the play, he did NOT intend any romantic feelings
    between Higgins and Doolittle.  When the audience chose to read
    them into the play, he was so furious that he went back and added
    an Epilogue to the play in which Eliza marries Freddy Einsford-Hill.  
    
   	 This is one of my favorites.  I see no reason for a remake.   
    Sometimes I think we get too caught up in "modernizing" and
    "new-and-improving" things.
    
    Just my knee jerl reactions,
    tlh
    
291.8My Fair LadyCSC32::JOHNSGod is real, unless declared integerThu Apr 23 1987 19:4311
    I was just thinking about this yesterday!
    
    I seem to remember (and I admit that this may be faulty) being angry
    as a teenager at the way Prof Higgins regarded Ms. Doolittle.
    I thought that he treated her solely as a *third* class citizen,
    and even at the end (when he realized that he loved her) he did
    not change the attitude that she was there for him, not that he
    could be there for her (love, support, bring her tea, etc).
    Didn't she even start picking up after him when he "allowed" her
    to stay?
                   Carol
291.9how he's played makes a differenceSUPER::HENDRICKSFri Apr 24 1987 13:229
    When we put this on in 8th grade (and it wasn't a bad performance
    at all!) we decided to have Higgins become obviously more humanized
    in the process.  The way he was played, he thawed quite a bit, acted
    a little sheepish about his behavior, and began to realize that
    Eliza was a person, and not a thing.  We didn't change the dialogue,
    but had him convey these changes through mannerisms and gestures.
                                                              
    (Oh yes, we had to leave out the song "Show Me".  Perhaps they didn't
    think that we'd understand it at that age?  ;-)   )
291.10SUPER::HENDRICKSFri Apr 24 1987 13:234
    re .4
    
    And for a horrific version of this legend,taken to extremes, try
    "The Stepford Wives"...ugh...
291.11for comic effectCREDIT::RANDALLBonnie Randall SchutzmanFri Apr 24 1987 13:5310
    My husband and I were discussing this last night on the way home
    from work.
    
    We concluded that if you did want to remake My Fair Lady, the only
    person you could possibly cast as Eliza is Bette Midler....
    
    re: .10:  I had forgotten "The Stepford Wives."  Double Ugh.
    
    --bonnie
    
291.12Peter O'Toole and ...ULTRA::LARUfull russian innFri Apr 24 1987 13:595
    I think they ARE remaking it, with Peter O'Toole.  I don't remember
    any details, but i think I saw it mentioned in a recent Sunday NY
    Times.
    
    Bruce
291.13Pygmalion, not My Fair Lady; onstage.SUPER::KENAHand shun the Furious Ballerinas.Fri May 22 1987 20:584
    re -1:  No, Peter O'Toole is co-starring with Amanda Plummer (I think)
            in a revival of Shaw's Pygmalion.
            
    					andrew