Conference turris::womannotes-v1

    
    Ann,  maybe if you continue the dream when you go to sleep tonight,
    you can let us know how you resolved the issue.
    
    Justine

    Clearly, Ann, the dream is symbolizing your subconscious fear
    of the passage of the ERA amendment, specifically the part
    about men and women sharing bathrooms! :) :) 
    
    Dorothy
    

What an interesting dream!  You know, in supporting everyone's legal 
right to go where they wish, note where they wish, etc., we women ought 
to start using the men's rooms.  The "MEN" and "WOMEN" designations are 
merely customary, and people observe them out of courtesy, but of course
since no one can be excluded from public property they certainly aren't 
legal.  This would be an especially great boon at theatres, movies, and 
other cultural events where the lines for women's rooms wrap around the 
corridors, while the men's rooms seem under-used.  I expect some of our 
male contributors will be in the forefront of this movement, not wanting 
to miss the opportunity to swap tampon tips in the women's room and
give friendly waves to women in the men's room... 

Re < Note 657.4 by RAINBO::IANNUZZO "Catherine T." >


>What an interesting dream!  You know, in supporting everyone's legal 
>right to go where they wish, note where they wish, etc., we women ought 
>to start using the men's rooms.  The "MEN" and "WOMEN" designations are 
>merely customary, and people observe them out of courtesy, but of course
>since no one can be excluded from public property they certainly aren't 
>legal.  This would be an especially great boon at theatres, movies, and 
>other cultural events where the lines for women's rooms wrap around the 
>corridors, while the men's rooms seem under-used...


After seeing what men, with their wildly inaccurate aim, do to men's rooms,
you might not consider the above such a good idea. :`(

/Mike

    
    RE: .4
    
    	 I can see you haven't been to any Rock concert in awhile.
    	Women ARE using the mens room quite regularly at these events,
    	atleast the few I've been to. It does tend to make the trip
    	short when you're standing there answering nature and two
    	women walk past you to get to the stalls. ;^)

RE: .0

Is this supposed to be a joke, or what?  I'm not sure how I'm supposed to
react to this, but my first reaction is hysterical laughter... :-}

If I had anything to say about my reactions, they would not at all what Ann
dreams that they would be.  I guess Ann doesn't know me all that well, so, what
should I expect...  I don't know Ann very well, either, but I know what I don't
know... :-}

"Since I knew that Jim did not believe that requests for privacy were to be
honored, especially when made by people who did not actually, physically own the
place where they wished to be private, I walked in on him, and Peggy (?)
followed."

That is not at all what I believe.  I believe that NOTES is not any better
suited to privacy then your living room in the middle of the party; 'okay,
everybody shutup or leave, we want some privacy!'.  You walking into the
bathroom would be like hacking into my account and reading my MAIL. 

*IF* someone tried to walk into the bathroom when I was there, I would have
first off secured the door beforehand, (especially during a party when lots of
people may need the bathroom and not know if it is occupied).  I assume you have
some kind of latch on your door, or I might have tried to block the door shut
when someone tried opening it, (assuming they thought the bathroom was empty).

Assuming someone walked into the bathroom on me, unless it was someone who made
it obvious that they would like to be alone in the bathroom with me, I would
quickly finish up and leave.  I doubt that I would make a fuss. I don't consider
myself very modest, but I try to respect whatever amount of modesty other people
have. 

"I tried to point out that our getting eyetracks on Jim was not a crime beyond
all other crimes."

I would not think that it would be, however...  I tend to want to see whatever
someone gets to see of me...  Sounds fair to me, eh?  Or does the fact that you
own the house say you can do whatever you want in it?  Lay eyes on anyone you
choose?  Strip them??  Touch them???  Clearly you can see where that leads...
I do not mean to imply that you would do any of this.

The difference between a notes file, and your house, is that *neither* of us
owns any notes file. 

If this was a dream, If I had that dream, I would interpret that my mind was
struggling with an idea that opposed one of my ideas, and that I had better take
a *real* close look at those ideas.

.0 makes me feel uneasy, because it *could* be interpreted very badly, and I
*could* ask to have it deleted.  However, I do not believe that Ann meant it
that way, I have more respect for Ann then that. 

I am sorry that I could not make the party, it must have been a good one! :-) 

Jim.

    Reply to .7; Jim,
    
    Awwwww Jim, your ruined it. It was such a fun story too. B^)

    
    I like the idea of Unisex bathrooms.....men would get those cushy
    divans and women would have to figure out a urinal,,(especially
    the SHORT ones).  
    
    However I see one major pitfall....seat up or down????
    
    :-)
    
    
    
    
    

    
    re: .0
    
    excellent!
    

    I am not amused.  This note has been in this conference for almost
    24 hours.  To this reader it is a form of ridicule and not appropriate
    for the conference.
    
    The man mentioned in .0 is a friend of mine.  I do not always agree
    with his opinion, but nonetheless I like him.
    
    If you do not like him that is okay...but he deserves the same
    treatment as everyone else in this conference.  
    
    Maybe there was a hope that he did attend the party and the situation
    did occur and the author was able to act out her fantasy.
    
    Maybe those people who were concerned about attending the party
    because they had differences of opinion with the hostess were
    justified.
    
    

    Please do not take this whole thing too slanderously or seriously
    or anything.  It was just a dream.  That's all.  I'm sure I'm not
    the only one who incorporates a random aglomeration (see below)
    of people/places they know into fantastic (i.e. unreal and
    unbelievable) situations in the everyday (or everynight) act of
    dreaming.  Granted, they don't always type them in, but sometimes
    I know mine are too weird to remember cohesively, let alone write
    down....I think the posting was intended to be humorous.

    Aglommeration - not a real word, but one I like nonetheless.  It
    stems from the imaginary root "glomm", to latch onto or stick to.
    
    
    -Jody
    

    Re: .0
    
    Hahaha!  I thought it was quite amusing!  Such a vivid and creative
    imagination!
    
    Dave
    

    re.11
    
    thank you!
    i know that i would feel awful if she had used my name.
    
    i am also glad that i cant attend these parties
    
    
    
    kelly

	RE .12
    
    >    Aglommeration [sic]- not a real word, but one I like nonetheless.  It
    >	 stems from the imaginary root "glomm"[sic], to latch onto or stick to.


    The following is from my paperback Funk & Wagnalls
    
    agglomerate (v.t. & v.i.)  - To gather, form, or grow into a mass.

    I suspect "glom" has been derived in reverse from "agglomerate",
    just as the verb "to escalate" was derived from the tradename
    "Escalator".

    wow.  I thought I'd made it up.  Guess someone else got to it before
    I did.  I'm pretty sure I never heard anyone use it.
    
    Maybe I dreamed it...
    
    :-) 
    
    (and that's a genuine smile, not a snide smile)
    
    -Jody
    

    re .17:
    
    "...why should anyone else be [offended]?"
    
    The principle of the thing. If it were my name in .0 instead of
    yours, I would not appreciate it or think it humerous.
    
    For the same reason that I would be offended if I heard someone
    call a black "nigger" even though I am caucasian.
    
    Get it?
                                                   
                  /
                 (  ___
                  ) ///
                 /
    

How come I wasn't in Ann's dream.

Hmmph, must be losing my touch with women.

Martin.

    Can I be offended too? After all if the people directly referred
    to aren't willing to take this opportunity to be offended, then
    SOMEONE has to!
    
    	-- Charles
    
    "The time for action is past! Now is the time for senseless bickering!"

    Oh, Martin and Charles, she said coyly, I don't tell *all* my
    dreams.
    							Ann B.

    I would have felt more comfortable reading the name in the basenote
    had it been acknolwedged by the people's who's names were used.
    But, then again, by associating the character with the name I thought
    the images to be very well represented.  Made for great reading....
    
    by the by, when is the next sequel?
    

    I'm shocked, shocked to see the mention of b*thr**ms in a public notesfile!
    :-)   It's all very well to call each other names, but the mention
    of of of such things as s**ks and m*d***ne cabinets is something
    that I thought **m*n were above!  :-)  :-)  :-)
       
    +
    To tell the truth, I had a dream last night of such startling clarity
    (although certainly less vivid), that I had a hard time convincing
    myself it wasn't true.  I dreamt I'd posted a nice note about a
    nice book and that I'd gotten a bizarre flame in response to it.
    It was quite a bit unlike most dreams I remember.

    
    
    Ann I thought it was hair sticks we were looking at!
    
    Oh, yes it was Greta who was in the room with us - sorry I was
    mixing reality with dreams again.
    
    BTW - When my children lived (live) with me we share the bathroom,
    and I mean share.  Did you ever try to floss your teeth with your
    son making faces at you in the mirror.
    
    _peggy
    
    		(-)
    		 |	If you have changed baby boy's dipers you have
    				no fear of adult male's aim or lack
    				thereof
    ANOTHER BTW - 	How many men have had the "pleasure" of cleaning
    			up after a baby boy sprays the world?
    

    Who says we don't have a sense of humor?
    
    _peggy
    
    		(-)
    		 |	.0 was great.
    

    My oldest son used to be able to 'get me' when his father
    was changing him and I was half way across the room! and
    then there are prepubescant boys and their aiming abilities...
    
    gaaahhh!
    
    Guess who is learning to clean toilets albet unwillingly :-)
    
    

Just a little "me too!" from the mother of 3 boys and a girl!  
I'm now trying to find out how much it's going to cost me for two 
rusted out radiators.  Why two ? -- Well we have three toilets, 
but thank goodness, my husband's aim is pretty good!

Rustoleum just couldn't take it.

Rox

    I was told in anvance of the communal "UNISEX" bathrooms in Japan
    
    However I was rather shocked and embarrassed while at the urinal
    
    and a Japanese Lady walked in and went to the open area that serves
    
    as a Toilet.  "I finished and left hurriedly"  
    
      The Germans will stop anywhere and perform the tasks of 
    nature and while in Amsterdam I saw several people use the canels
    as urinals.
    
    When one must perform a bodily function, If an enclosed space is
    available, I believe that we should use it.  
    
    H o w e v e r... have you ever really had to void badly and there
     
    just was no place available, and you were too embarrassed to do
    
    that in public?  What to do bear the pain, or the shame?