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Conference terri::web_authoring

Title:Welcome to WEB_AUTHORING
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Moderator:VAXCAT::LAURIE
Created:Tue Mar 05 1996
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:186
Total number of notes:1479

174.0. "Auto Reload" by BIGQ::SILVA (http://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/) Fri Apr 11 1997 00:09


	Is there a way that when one goes to a page, it automatically loads the
latest and greatest without hitting reload? I have a bunch of work related
pages with schedules. When I change them you have to hit reload to see the
changes. And where people are looking at this constantly, I need them to be
able to see what is there as a nobrainer.



Glen
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174.1BIGUN::nessus.cao.dec.com::MayneA wretched hive of scum and villainyFri Apr 11 1997 03:255
Tell the server to put "nocache" in the response header, to tell the browser not 
to cache the page. How to do this is highly server dependent, and depending on 
your server, there may be more than one way to skin the cat.

PJDM
174.2BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Fri Apr 11 1997 19:533

	I'll let them know. It is in an ftp area of a vms machine right now.
174.3is this selective?DSNENG::KOLBEWicked Wench of the WebFri Apr 11 1997 20:483
I was trying to do this with refresh. Bad idea. And I've tried expire but
the Apache server dosen't seem to aknowledge that. Is the 'nocache' something
that can be done on a page basis or would it affect the entire server? liesl
174.4VMSBIZ::SANDEROpenVMS MarketingSat Apr 12 1997 02:069
You can always try a meta tag:

<META HTTP-EQUIV="Pragma" CONTENT="no-cache">


This tells the browser not to cache the page. The server usually doesn't 
cache pages. and if you are using a proxy server to get to the page
then this should remove it from it's cache. 

174.5Or pre-expire the pagePENUTS::AERNIRon Aerni, AMCS IS @SHRSat Apr 12 1997 03:0718
I recently found the following comments in
http://www.microsoft.com/workshop/author/other/htmlfaq1.htm which
imply "pragma no-cache" doesn't work for IE 3.0.  However, I found
another article that indicated IE 2.1 *did* support "pragma no-cache"
so your mileage may vary!


How can I keep my page from being cached?

To keep your page from being cached (e.g., if your content is dynamic
and determined by a server application), use the META tag as follows:

<META HTTP-EQUIV="Expires" CONTENT="Tue, 04 Dec 1993 21:29:02 GMT">

Note that the expiration date should be already past. META tags are
used in the <HEAD> section of the HTML page. Refer to
http://www.w3.org/pub/WWW/Protocols/HTTP/1.1/spec.html for further
details. Internet Explorer does not support HTTP-EQUIV Pragma no-cache. 
174.68153::MAYERATG/Internet Business GroupSat Apr 12 1997 05:516
    IE 2.x was a buyout from Spyglass and worked fine.  Microsoft then went
    and rewrote IE 3.0 from scratch and has a lot more bugs.  Witness the
    fiasco of trying to download software from the IBG Software
    Distribution Server.
    
    		Danny
174.7LEXSS1::PUCHRIKField RatSat Apr 12 1997 14:3010
    IE 3.0 seems to be able to download software from a lot of other
    servers.  What is the specific bug that keeps it from working with the
    IBG Software Distribution Server?  What server are you running?  I
    see that you detect the Microsoft browser.  Your server doesn't support
    any server-side workarounds?
    
    I expect I'll always run both Netscape and Microsoft browsers.  I seem
    to change every so often making the other one the default.
    
    Danny, thanks for the terrific service and all the downloads.
174.88153::tecotoo.mro.dec.com::mayerDanny MayerMon Apr 14 1997 19:0111
>    IE 3.0 seems to be able to download software from a lot of other
>    servers.  What is the specific bug that keeps it from working with the
>    IBG Software Distribution Server?  What server are you running?  I
>    see that you detect the Microsoft browser.  Your server doesn't support
>    any server-side workarounds?

	IE 3.02 seems to work better in this respect.  If I can get them to
  support Content-Disposition, we'll be better off.  I have total control
  on the server side, it's the client which has the problems.

		Danny
174.9BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Mon Apr 14 1997 21:147
| <<< Note 174.4 by VMSBIZ::SANDER "OpenVMS Marketing" >>>

| <META HTTP-EQUIV="Pragma" CONTENT="no-cache">

	I'll try that. It would be great if it works as then I am golden.
Thanks!

174.10blink and blink againDSNENG::KOLBEWicked Wench of the WebWed Apr 23 1997 22:505
I've added both the pragma and the expired to my kit pages. Now I must
be reloading 2 times because the window flickers and repaints 2 times.

Oh well, it's better than having bad links because the page was cached.
liesl