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Conference terri::web_authoring

Title:Welcome to WEB_AUTHORING
Notice:Before writing, please check for an existing topic
Moderator:VAXCAT::LAURIE
Created:Tue Mar 05 1996
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:186
Total number of notes:1479

148.0. "Microsoft Site Builder Network" by MOVIES::POTTER (http://www.vmse.edo.dec.com/~potter/) Sat Dec 21 1996 11:53

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148.1no AOLPOLAR::SCHILDKRAUTDon't seal home.... Share it!Sat Dec 21 1996 18:1210
148.2KAOFS::O_DEBOERMon Dec 23 1996 16:264
148.3BIGUN::nessus.cao.dec.com::MayneSturgeon's LawTue Dec 31 1996 02:1627
148.4You need an OLE automation serverHOUBA::MEHERSDamian, http://bigbird.geo.dec.com/Tue Jan 07 1997 13:048
148.5BIGUN::nessus.cao.dec.com::MayneSturgeon's LawWed Jan 08 1997 08:358
148.6Pointer to ASP lab of Adv. WWW AD&I CourseHOUBA::MEHERSDamian, http://bigbird.geo.dec.com/Mon Jan 13 1997 13:0922
148.7TURRIS::av_pc1.shl.dec.com::sullivanWed Mar 19 1997 06:525
Do I really have to apply for my own Site Builder membership,
being a Digital employee? I was hoping that Digital would
have some kind of blanket membership for all it's employees...

Greg.
148.8TURRIS::av_pc1.shl.dec.com::sullivanWed Mar 19 1997 06:567
BTW, all I want is the Visual Interdev beta - 
I can't download it as a guest member. If anyone
could give me an  internal pointer to the kit,
I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks,
Greg.
148.9JGODCL::BOWENTwo stars short of a GalaxyWed Mar 19 1997 14:2512
    Visual Interdev is now out as a full product, the Beta will shortly no
    longer be available.
    
    Copies of the product can be obtained by attending one of Microsofts
    developer days this week (I'm going to Rotterdam next monday for
    instance) or by subscription to the Microsoft Developers Network
    Universal Subscription.
    
    Anyway applying for Site Builder 2 is very easy and gives you access to
    a fair number of products.
    
    Kevin
148.108153::tecotoo.mro.dec.com::mayerDanny MayerWed Mar 19 1997 17:045
	There is no Digital-wide membership and NOONE should be giving you
  kits that they obtained under their own membership.  The membership does NOT
  cost money, so why are you hesitating?

		Danny
148.11I thought that our alliance might have saved me some work, that's allTURRIS::snod14dgp1.gen.sno.dec.com::sullivanThu Mar 20 1997 00:5324
I'm not "hesitating". I just thought that maybe
it would make sense for Digital to apply for
some type of minimal corporate membership,
to save some effort! I don't WANT to 
create a web site yet - I want to 
get the Visual Interdev kit and learn
about it, and THEN create a web site.
(btw I don't have an external home page,
either, so any intranet page I email 
Microsoft would have to be scrutinised 
for sensitive info).

Is there a Digital corporate web page
(external would be nice) that I could
point Microsoft to in order to gain at 
least a level 1 membership? 

I know it is rather easy for me to
create some ficticious intranet web
page and stick the Microsoft logo
on it - I just thought MAYBE Digital
might have saved me the trouble. :)

Greg.
148.12A nit...XSTACY::imladris.ilo.dec.com::grainneGrainne Ni ChoilighThu Mar 20 1997 13:4927
Re: .11

Just a nit - my understanding of the Microsoft Sitebuilder
Leveln qualification rules is that an intranet site can't
qualify for Level1 membership, which only requires the IE
logo and a link to the IE homepage.  An intranet site *can*
qualify for Level2 membership, which requires the IE logo,
the link to the IE homepage, and at least one ActiveX control,
by e-mailing the HTML source for the page to the SBN registration
address. At the time I submitted my registration request,
it took a considerable time (6-8 weeks) for intranet
registration requests to be processed. However, I believe
this has improved.

The MS SBN site has a step-by-step examples for both requirements
(the logo and the ActiveX control) so there really isn't any
effort involved. I had a bit of a principled objection to
having to have an ActiveX client-side control on one of my pages (I
have no objection to ActiveX server components on my IIS
server, and in fact use several) but I managed to overcome it ;-)

However, if you plan to buy the released version of Visual
InterDev you might be better off not installing the beta
version at this point, anyway. If you want to install
the released version on the same machine as the beta version,
you need to manually back out a number ofregistry changes
etc. first. Details are given on the Visual InterDev homepage.
148.138153::tecotoo.mro.dec.com::mayerDanny MayerThu Mar 20 1997 17:063
	I can't understand your hesitation.  Just DO it.

		Danny
148.14CIRCUS::GOETZETibetan karma not Made in ChinaThu Mar 20 1997 22:314
    Those rules are bogus, and DIGITAL should have a corporate wide
    membership for people developing for our external pages.
    
       erik
148.15See past the smokeCIM2NI::CROSBYFri Mar 21 1997 16:0911
Erik,

The rules make perfect sense if you understand what these guys are trying to do.

They are building a tiered mailing list that they can sell to downstream.  Now,
it seems to me that in order to do that, they want individual names, addresses,
etc.

It's called Pavlovian one-to-one marketing, coming soon to a screen near you.

gc