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Conference yukon::christian_v7

Title:The CHRISTIAN Notesfile
Notice:Jesus reigns! - Intros: note 4; Praise: note 165
Moderator:ICTHUS::YUILLEON
Created:Tue Feb 16 1993
Last Modified:Fri May 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:962
Total number of notes:42902

861.0. "Why Blood?" by OUTSRC::HEISER (watchman on the wall) Wed Feb 07 1996 15:05

    Something that came up in my Hebrew class last night has me thinking. 
    We were talking about blood atonement and someone asked, "Why is blood
    used instead of something else?"
    
    Has anyone ever read of a reason or speculation as to why blood is used
    for atonement?  I guessing it has something to do with its importance
    to life-giving energy and not being able to live without it.
    
    thanks,
    Mike
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861.1JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeWed Feb 07 1996 15:151
    Yes. :-)
861.2CPCOD::JOHNSONA rare blue and gold afternoonWed Feb 07 1996 15:525
God forbade the Israelites to cosume blood & the explanation
given is because "the life is in the blood".  That's in Deuteronomy and/or
Leviticus somewhere.

Leslie
861.3ICTHUS::YUILLEHe must increase - I must decreaseWed Feb 07 1996 16:1329
861.4more...DPPSYS::FYFEI have much more to tell you...Wed Feb 07 1996 16:1414
    
    
    Yes it is in Leviticus 3 & 17 I think. It also says;
    
    	"Since the life of a living body is in it's blood, I have
    	 made you put it on the altar, so that atonement may thereby 
    	 be made for your own lives, because it is the blood, as the
    	 seat of life, that makes atonement"
    
    Which has it's fulfilment in Christ, the perfect sacrifice, John 6.
    
    Peace,
    
    	Tom
861.5fyiOUTSRC::HEISERwatchman on the wallWed Feb 07 1996 16:587
    "For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have assigned it to
    you for making expiation for your lives upon the altar; it is the
    blood, as life, that effects expiation."
    
    Leviticus 17:11 (Tanakh - JPS translation based on Masoretic manuscripts)
    
    Mike
861.6JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeWed Feb 07 1996 17:461
    Why did you ask if you already knew, Mike? :-)
861.7how's this?OUTSRC::HEISERwatchman on the wallWed Feb 07 1996 18:312
    I didn't have a scriptural reference and wanted one and was too lazy to
    look it up. ;-)
861.8Symbol => RealityYIELD::BARBIERIWed Feb 07 1996 19:0511
      So far as expiation is concerned, is Christ's literal blood
      part of the expiation or is it purely a symbol where that which
      it is symbolic of is the expiation?
    
      My conviction: Christ's literal blood is not expiation.  The
      revelation of His self-sacrificing love, the love expressed on
      the cross is all of the expiation.
    
      Now, how is revelation expiation?
    
    							Tony
861.9HPCGRP::DIEWALDWed Feb 07 1996 19:261
    I know I asked this before but, what is expiation again?
861.10DWSPR::WOODWARDC...but words can break my heartWed Feb 07 1996 21:323
    expiate, adj. to make amends: atone
    
    New Merriam-Webster Dictionary
861.11How???YIELD::BARBIERIThu Feb 08 1996 10:4312
      Thanks Harry!
    
      To use an equivalent word:
    
      The sum total of what the blood is metaphorical of is
      *REVELATION*.   (See John 6:53,63).
    
      How does revelation atone?
    
    						Tony
    
      
861.12You must not eat the blood for the life is in the bloodCPCOD::JOHNSONA rare blue and gold afternoonThu Feb 08 1996 13:5632
RE: my own note, 861.2

>God forbade the Israelites to cosume blood & the explanation
>given is because "the life is in the blood".  That's in Deuteronomy and/or
>Leviticus somewhere.

The passage I was thinking of is Deuteronomy 12:23-27. The quote below is
from the REB. The NIV which I looked it up in is slightly different, but
essentially the same. My Niv doesn't fit in my briefcase too well.

(Preceeding these verses is stuff about how animals for food can be
slaughtered in their towns & settlements if the place the Lord chooses is 
far for them to travel easily on a regular basis. For the animals slaughtered 
thusly, the first paragraph below applies. The second paragraph applies 
to sacrifices and offerings)

    "But you must strictly refrain from partaking of the blood, 
     because the blood is the life; you must not eat the life 
     with the flesh. If you abstain from it, all will be well 
     with you and your children after you; for you will be doing
     what is right in the eyes of the Lord.

     But such holy-gifts as you may have and gifts you have vowed
     you must bring to the place the Lord will choose. You must 
     present your whole-offerings, both the flesh and the blood, on
     the alter of the Lord your God; but of your shared-offerings you 
     are to eat the flesh, while the blood is to be poured on the
     alter of the Lord your God."

     Deuterononmy 12:23-27

Leslie